I am sad

[Shibuya Me]

I do not like when someone puts down Japanese people!

[ramchop]

You're not Japanese... is it OK if we put you down? :P

[devicenull]

[Shibuya Me]

I guess I should have said...

" I do not like it when someone puts down
someone else. Race does not matter. Just
the act of putting someone down seems to
say that the person who is doing the putting
down...has no self confidence and is in fear
of others finding out what a sad person
they really are...."

So if you must feel good about yourself by
putting Japanese people..or even me down...then
by all means. Go ahead.

You are the biggest problem on this site. I say
that with confidence.

[ramchop]

You are the biggest problem on this site. I say
that with confidence.

Who me?

[Big Booger]

Who gives a rat what you don't like. just kidding

I say you'd be best to get over it quick for fear of getting your feelings hurt constantly.

[devicenull]

[Naniwan Kid]

Those Downtown boys are hilarious. I am not sure if the Mr. Bater character has anything to do with with racism, though.

[devicenull]

Those Downtown boys are hilarious. I am not sure if the Mr. Bater character has anything to do with with racism, though.

I agree, funny as hell

Idea behind Mr. Bater..

he is pretending to be a foreigner and is mocking the way foreigners speak japanese. that's basically it.

a nice honest explanation:
"yomogi: A comedy with the interesting Japanese pronunciation about which a foreigner speaks"

it's funny, I admit it, but the same people laughing at this were attacking banzai on fox here in the states

personally, i dislike banzai.. but yea, turnabout is fair play :P

[jingai]

I'd actually been looking for Japanese shows about or making fun of America, but haven't had much luck finding anything.
From a partially downloaded Mr. Bater show, it seemed to me that the character was making fun of gaisen Japanese more than Americans. He was putting on airs, speaking with an obnoxious pseudo-foreign accent, and talking about getting ready to host visiting Americans.

I've found so many American shows focused on Japan, it's hardly a fair fight. The Simpsons have at least 2 episodes dealing with Japan, SNL has a "Quiz Show Kings" about Japan, South Park has Chinpokomon, I saw Tom Green tormenting Japanese tourists on MTV the other night, and there is crap like Popeye in "Your a Sap Mr. Jap" left over from WWII. I would love to see any Japanese equivalents if you know of any!

Banzai spends more time making fun of Americans than it does Japanese. If you took away the stupid announcers it would be completely un-Japanese.

[Naniwan Kid]

1) I beleive Banzai is made in Europe. Let's not assume it's making fin of AMERICANS.

2) Mr. Bater is making less fun of foreigners than Ma-chan's ability to come up with puns on the situations Imada puts him in....(pre-written, of course, but very clever. Gaijin are never really demeaned (besides the standard fake nose).

I get a little nervous using Mr. Bater (which hasn't been made in almost 10 years, but Classic DVDs of Downtown's Gottsu "A" Kanji show are being released now) as an equal to Chimpokemon or Banzai. I also don't really like the "turnabout is fair play" comment made twice here. I would say that 2 wrongs don't make a right.

[jingai]

Banzai is a British TV show. In the one episode I bothered to watch, there was one skit where Mr. Shake-hands-man cornered Bill Murray (American), one skit where a white woman stuffed US Dollar Bills into her mouth, and one skit where Todd Bridges (an American actor) tried to race a dog to a stick. I don't know if they filmed new sequences for an American audience, but it seemed to be focused on America. I expected more of a British comedy show, and was disappointed.

So where are the shows making fun of America or Europe? If there are none, why not? I don't think there is anything inherently wrong about poking fun at different countries, but am not defending crude stereotyping. There is clearly something amusing about Japan in the eyes of non-Japanese. Isn't the reverse true, too?

[Naniwan Kid]

I think there have been some VERY clever fun-poking that has happened in movies and the media. A favorite of mine is "A Fish Called Wanda" which gives pretty equal time for both Americans and British to cut each other down, as well as make fun of their own cultures.

I am not sure if there is an educated way to have the same experience between, say, England and Japan, as their isn't the knowledge base there. Also the stereo-types Americans have about the English are rarely RACIALLY based. I am not sure you could accomplish this with a Japanese comedy and not trip over the line of racism. (Either real or perceived)

[Caustic Saint]

I watched a bit of Banzai for the first time last night. One of the least funny things I've ever seen. And I'm not sure when/where it was filmed, but some of the footage seemed quite dated. Mr Shake Hands Man went after Elliot Gould and he was making references to some movie that came out a while back.

Oh, and the South Park "Chinpokomon" episode is pure genius. ^.^

[Neo-Rio]

One show which really takes the piss on foreigners in Japan is SMAP station, with Katori Shingo acting like the cross-dressing clown he is.
They had this segment with them doing a satire of those Gaijin radio announcers on the airwaves, with the big plastic nose... maikng their English and Japanese go crazy and messed up, and ending with "Oppai bye" instead of the usual.

Then one of their troupe goes on a tour bus with a bunch of tourists and pokes fun at the tourists, and how emotional they get over being in Japan (and the typical Japanese viewer must find this really funny)

Next a joke about Koreans.... "How do you say Ham sandwich in Korean"
......... "Hamsandnida"

Seriously, this brand of humour is similar to the stuff many an assistant language teacher in a Japanese school has been doing for years.

[Naniwan Kid]

The episode of Banzai had the keyboardist from Yes going up against the keyboardist from Level 42. Americans may have got it in 1986, but....

There was a time in American TV history when more "racist" humor was more acceptable. The theme was usually the crochety old man teamed up with a younger, hipper man (or family). It's funny watching these shows today as they could NOT be made today (but they do show them as reruns). I am thinking of Chico and the Man, All in the Family and Sanford and Son.

[Taro Toporific]

There was a time in American TV history when more "racist" humor was more acceptable..... I am thinking of Chico and the Man, All in the Family and Sanford and Son.

Ahhhh yes, "American" TV history: You mean Steptoe and Son, right?

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

There was a time in American TV history when more "racist" humor was more acceptable..... I am thinking of Chico and the Man, All in the Family and Sanford and Son.

Ahhhh yes, "American" TV history: You mean Steptoe and Son, right?

Steptoe and son is the funniest shit ever have you seen the film? Another classic is "are you being served" why o why did they stop these programs.

[ramchop]

I am thinking of Chico and the Man, All in the Family and Sanford and Son.

Funny how so many American Classics are ripoffs of British comedy.

[ramchop]

Damn you're quick Taro!

[Steve Bildermann]

I grew up listening and laffing to:

The goon show
http://www.residents.com/Goons/

Round the Horne
http://www.johnbarber.com/rth.html

Hancock's half hour
http://www.phespirit.info/hancock/

I'm sorry I'll read that again
http://www.thegoonshow.co.uk/recordings/isirta/isirta.html

It's a square world
http://www.nostalgiacentral.com/tv/comedy/squareworld.htm

All pioneering in one way or another...culminating in 'Python' of course

'Round the Horne' was especially outrageous. Absolutely NOTHING was sacred from religion to politics to gay jokes.

I never thought Benny Hill was that good.

[Taro Toporific]

Damn you're quick Taro!

And I'm "gainfully" employed.

Actually I saw Steptoe and Son in school in England back in 60s. In the 70s I must have watched 15 minutes of Red Foxx's "Sanford and Son" before I got the connection EVEN though it 80% the same even in the set and filming style. I guess it was Red Foxx being un-profane that threw me.

[ramchop]

Actually I saw Steptoe and Son in school in England back in 60s.

Did you catch the original All in the Family (Till Death Us Do Part) at the same time?

[Shibuya Me]

This is the reason I like this site!

It started out as " I am sad " and
ends up talking about Sanford
and Son!

I think I will make this my home!

[Taro Toporific]

Actually I saw Steptoe and Son in school in England back in 60s.

Did you catch the original All in the Family (Till Death Us Do Part) at the same time?

Yeap.

1974 I was doing lectures in The University of Edinburgh and teaching in Chicago concurrently. It was too confused.

[GomiGirl]

I grew up the "Goodies", "Dr Who", "The Jetsons" and the like. When I was a kid in England it was "The Magic Roundabout" and "Basil Brush". But don't you think that the magic roundabout was all about LSD and other drugs?

Also, Captain Pugwash would never make it past the censors these days - "Roger the cabin Boy" and "Seaman Steins" - really!!!

When I was a teenager I loved "the Young Ones" - gotta love British TV.

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

[GomiGirl]

"Are you Being Served" - what a blast from the past.. "Mr Humphries, are you free?"

No I am actually a "haafu" - English and Australian. Spent some time in England as a kid but mainly grew up in Australia.

But then it shouldn't matter where I am from for you to decide if we can be friends or not. I can't be friends with idiots and that club is not exclusive to any country. I have met idiots and good folks from everywhere.

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

But then it shouldn't matter where I am from for you to decide if we can be friends or not. I can't be friends with idiots and that club is not exclusive to any country. I have met idiots and good folks from everywhere.

My bad I was making an all to frequent generalisation. Bad bad Troll.

Actualy i was just pulling your leg from info from other posts.

If I was to tell the exact truth and leave out all the shit my post would only be:



"Are you being served" is a good program!



Dull post dont you think?

[devicenull]

ahoahoman is my new god

that is all