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Postby Blah Pete » Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:00 am

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Postby maraboutslim » Mon Jun 28, 2010 5:14 am

I don't know. The lack of instant reply doesn't bother me at all. Maybe it's because I grew up playing the game and often times saw things happen that were incorrectly called by officials. Think about it this way. There are two ways to define a goal:

1) the ball must cross the goal line between the goal posts (as seen in a perfect world or by a camera)

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2) the ball must cross the goal line between the goal posts in a manner that is easily judged to have done so by the officials, who may not always be in perfect position.

I'm totally comfortable with letting the sport follow #2. I'd be even happier if we weren't shown replays on TV either. I don't really care if someone was really onside or offside or not since it doesn't matter. All that matters is how it looked from the official's position and the attention he could give it considering all else going on.

I'm much more bothered by over-officiating. Fussy yellow/red cards, whistling for fantom fouls (like in the usa game), and so on. But non-calls don't bother me as much.

To England, I can only say: Put the ball in the back of the net and don't leave any question about it. And to Mexico, don't count on an offside flag to save you from horrible defense.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Mon Jun 28, 2010 7:53 am

Bwahahahahahahahahah

Serves you right, fucking Anglo-Saxons!!!!
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Postby Mulboyne » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:05 am

Takechanpoo wrote:Serves you right, fucking Anglo-Saxons!!!!


I know what you're trying to say but what you've actually said doesn't work because the Anglo Saxons were mostly Germans.
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Postby Christoff » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:31 am

speaking on anglos, das germans did pretty dam awesome.
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Mon Jun 28, 2010 1:05 pm

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Postby FG Lurker » Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:34 pm

maraboutslim wrote:2) the ball must cross the goal line between the goal posts in a manner that is easily judged to have done so by the officials, who may not always be in perfect position.

I'm totally comfortable with letting the sport follow #2. I'd be even happier if we weren't shown replays on TV either. I don't really care if someone was really onside or offside or not since it doesn't matter. All that matters is how it looked from the official's position and the attention he could give it considering all else going on.

The problem with this is consistency. If all refs are equally good (or equally bad, depending on your outlook) then method #2 isn't a big deal. The problem is that we don't have consistency at all, and with the amount of money being wagered on games, refs on the take aren't inconceivable either.

maraboutslim wrote:I'm much more bothered by over-officiating. Fussy yellow/red cards, whistling for fantom fouls (like in the usa game), and so on. But non-calls don't bother me as much.

It's not just non-calls though. Goals have been wrongly allowed due to a non-call and disallowed due to wrong calls.

Replay would stop a lot of the phantom fouls too -- players would be a lot less willing to dive if they knew the refs would be able to review what actually happened. Hell, introduce replay and give yellow cards to players who are found to be diving. That would solve a lot of the game stopping BS that goes on and improve officiating at the same time.
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Postby FG Lurker » Mon Jun 28, 2010 3:04 pm

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Postby Greji » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:03 pm

Christoff wrote:speaking on anglos, das germans did pretty dam awesome.


They were, but I also think disallowing the obvious goal by England which would have tied the game at 2-2, changed the whole course of the game. But, then again, that's one guy's opinion. Who knows.....
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Postby Greji » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:10 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:Bwahahahahahahahahah

Serves you right, fucking Anglo-Saxons!!!!
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Take-kun, other than being wrong on what is Anglo, and what is Saxon, how do you see the match between the well bred Samurai and the Southern Para-Indos?
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Postby Coligny » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:44 pm

Greji wrote:Take-kun, other than being wrong on what is Anglo, and what is Saxon, how do you see the match between the well bred Samurai and the Southern Para-Indos?
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Postby Greji » Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:58 pm

Coligny wrote:Inbreeding... fun for the whole family...


For all, but older borthers. Mine was a real pain in the ass while I was growing up......
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Postby Mulboyne » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:04 pm

Greji wrote:They were, but I also think disallowing the obvious goal by England which would have tied the game at 2-2, changed the whole course of the game.

It did change the game but I think most English supporters feel a little less outraged on account of the way we let Germany score such easy goals.

Momentum is everything in sport and England might have rocked Germany and found renewed confidence if the equalizer had counted but we still should have been more competitive at 2-1 down with the whole second half to play.

There's still a lot of discontent in England, which the papers are happy to stoke. FIFA will remain a target but I suspect its the players and manager who will come most under fire.
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Postby CrankyBastard » Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:48 am

Takechanpoo wrote:Huh? You are Italian. one of former axis of evils. so not "we" but "they". dude


Just out of curiosity, but why do you think I'm Italian?
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Postby 2triky » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:17 am

Mulboyne wrote:There's still a lot of discontent in England, which the papers are happy to stoke. FIFA will remain a target but I suspect its the players and manager who will come most under fire.


I think Capello's days are numbered. Is he really worth 5 million pounds?
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Postby 2triky » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:21 am

Nike World Cup ad 'curse' claims almost all its stars

When the New York Times soccer blog Goal first suggested that the celebrity footballers who appeared in Nike's now famous "Write the Future" ad might be cursed, there were still plenty of questions left unanswered. It's true that Ronaldinho hadn't even been selected for Brazil by manager Dunga, and Franck Ribery had gone out early along with an ignomonious France.

But a week ago, Rooney, although in poor form, was still in the tournament. Retiring Cannavaro and Italy had yet to crash out 3-2 to underdogs Slovakia; Didier Drogba, while recovering from an elbow injury, was still in the World Cup with the Ivory Coast (barely); and Landon Donovan and Tim Howard were, pre-Ghana at least, real American heroes.

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Now it looks like the ad is a better predictor of World Cup outcomes than Paul the octopus. Mexican director Alejandro González Iñárritu's four minute spot has ripped through the chances of almost every one of its featured World Cup hopefuls like David Villa running through a Honduran back four. Goal-less Rooney is at the centre of blame for an under-performing England, Cannavaro represents a past-it Italian defense that let in 5 goals on 6 shots on target, and African hope Ivory Coast collapsed in the group stage with Drogba scoring only one goal.

Now the world will nervously watch Cristiano Ronaldo and Portugal face off against Spain in the round of 16 match this Tuesday evening to see if the curse will claim its final victims. Ronaldo has not been in great form since the start of the World Cup, and the ad's Spanish contingent has already encountered several problems: Andres Iniesta picked up a slight knock the other day, Gerard Pique's head has become everyone's favourite bloody pin-cushion, and Cesc Fabregas has grown a really ugly beard.

[Photos: See more of Portuguese star Cristiano Ronaldo]

Thankfully, the ad's non-footballing celebrities seem to be holding up well. Roger Federer is still in Wimbledon (although he's lost his number one ranking to Nadal), Kobe Bryant has an NBA championship (even though he went cold in game 7, letting Artest come up big), and Homer Simpson and The Simpsons are still on the air through 2011 (although the show hasn't been good in years).

On second thought...this ad is pure evil.

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Postby Mulboyne » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:24 am

2triky wrote:Nike World Cup ad 'curse' claims almost all its stars

Adidas won't be too unhappy. They are the official Cup sponsors, and not Nike, after all.
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Postby 2triky » Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:06 am

Mulboyne wrote:Adidas won't be too unhappy. They are the official Cup sponsors, and not Nike, after all.


Good point. A German company....go figure.
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Postby Greji » Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:17 am

Here's what the bookmakers say about the score for the last Asian team in the fight, dude.....Take, please review before your next wank.....

Paraguay v Japan Correct Score Odds
Paraguay 1-0 5/1
Paraguay 2-0 15/2
Paraguay 2-1 15/2
Draw 0-0 6/1
Draw 1-1 5/1
Draw 2-2 18/1
Japan 1-0 7/1
Japan 2-0 16/1
Japan 2-1 12/1
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Postby CrankyBastard » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:46 pm

I thought I'd seen those vuvuzelas somewhere before.

Hey Take, you gonna be blowin' on one of these tonight?
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Postby FG Lurker » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:51 pm

Well, not the most exciting first half, to say the least. A couple of good chances but otherwise fairly bland. Here's hoping for a bit more excitement from now...
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Postby American Oyaji » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:52 pm

Japan has had some SERIOUSLY scary moments in ths game vs. Paraguay.

Their defense has GOT to keep Paraguay at the other end of the field.
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Postby canman » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:57 pm

Well so far so good. I wish Japan would play the same attacking style that won them the game against Denmark, but I guess you have to play each opponent differently. Would like to see a little more ball control, they seem to give up the ball a little too easily. Also they can't just focus on Honda, he is good, but let someone else try.
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Postby dimwit » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:01 am

Whatever the final ends up being tonight, I will say one thing, they have play with a hell of a lot of poise. In this tournament, they have rarely looked overmatched and have made the best of their opportunities.
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Postby American Oyaji » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:03 am

dimwit wrote:Whatever the final ends up being tonight, I will say one thing, they have play with a hell of a lot of poise. In this tournament, they have rarely looked overmatched and have made the best of their opportunities.


Very true Dim. They actually look like they belong on the world stage instead of bit players filling in a temporary role and never expected to win anything.
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Postby FG Lurker » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:23 am

I'm watching in the office on a stream coming from Scotland from the sound of the accents. The announcers are not at all impressed with the game. The latest comment was, "When compared with Brazil the only thing these teams are passing is time." :rofl:
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Postby 2triky » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:26 am

FG Lurker wrote:I'm watching in the office on a stream coming from Scotland from the sound of the accents. The announcers are not at all impressed with the game. The latest comment was, "When compared with Brazil the only thing these teams are passing is time." :rofl:


Pretty funny but a bit unfair to be comparing to Brazil. So what was the Germany v. England match...the Battle of Dunkirk?
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Postby FG Lurker » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:31 am

2triky wrote:Pretty funny but a bit unfair to be comparing to Brazil. So what was the Germany v. England match...the Battle of Dunkirk?
Not sure, I watched the Ger/Eng game on J-TV. :p

These announcers are giving credit when something gets done right, but I can't disagree with their overall comments regarding the lack of excitement in this game.
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Postby 2triky » Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:32 am

FG Lurker wrote:Not sure, I watched the Ger/Eng game on J-TV. :p


Hehe. Guess you get a pass on that one.

These announcers are giving credit when something gets done right, but I can't disagree with their overall comments regarding the lack of excitement in this game.


Agreed. I can not fault you on that score. This game has produced few scoring opportunities thus far.
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