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Ain't got no money - "Japan to ax one of the cornerstones of its higher education.."

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Ain't got no money - "Japan to ax one of the cornerstones of its higher education.."

Postby kuainiri » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:30 pm

Via Mainichi News:
Would Mainichi readers be surprised to learn that Japan is preparing to ax one of the cornerstones of its higher education internationalization strategy?

The government's cost-cutting panel, which is trying to slash costs in a bid to trim the country's runaway public debt, voted on Nov. 18 to abolish and "restructure" the Global 30 project.

Launched last year with a budget of 3.2 billion yen, Global 30 envisioned "core" universities "dramatically" boosting the number of international students in Japan and Japanese students studying abroad, said the Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science and Technology.

The ministry's strict selection process, however, meant that just 13 elite universities made the initial grade. Now the project has been terminated.

Can Japan afford this? Fewer than 4 percent of Japan's university students come from abroad -- 133,000, well below China (223,000) and the U.S. (672,000). Just 5 percent of its 353,000 university teachers are foreign, according to Ministry of Education statistics. Most of those are English teachers.

At the opposite end of the education pendulum, students here are increasingly staying at home: Japanese undergraduate enrollments in U.S. universities have plummeted by over half since 2000. Numbers to Europe are also down.

Japan, in the view of many, may be entering another period of educational sakoku -- or self-enforced isolation.

South Korea, with about half Japan's population, sends over twice as many students to the U.S. At some American universities, such as Cornell, Japan is behind not just China and South Korea, but even Thailand and tiny Singapore.

Japan's share of global research production, meanwhile, fell from 9.45 percent to 6.75 percent over the last decade, according to the latest Global Research Report. While the report noted "areas of excellence" in Japan's profile, it blamed its faltering performance on a dearth of international collaborations.

Global 30 was supposed to partly remedy those ills, helping Japanese universities reach a government goal of 300,000 foreign students by 2020, while sending the same number of Japanese students abroad.

"We think those universities will set an example for other colleges by leading with good practice," said Kato Shigeharu, deputy director of Higher Education Bureau at the ministry. "This practice will then diffuse to other colleges around the country."

That interview came before the government decision.

With the worst public debt in the industrialized world -- 900 trillion yen ($10.6 trillion) -- Japan has much less fiscal leg-room than its competitors. So budget cutting may be inevitable, but why not intensify the effort to target useless dams or highways rather than education?

The decision has been greeted with dismay. "This government is destroying Japan," said Yoshida Go, a professor with the Office of International Strategic Planning at Nagoya University -- one of the 13 selectees.

"Quite honestly, Japan is late in the game of globalization in higher education. But the government's left hand doesn't know what its right hand is doing."
(By David McNeill)
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/perspectives/column/news/20101220p2a00m0na002000c.html?inb=rs&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mdn%2Fall+%28Mainichi+Daily+News+-+All+Stories%29
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Don't mean to have an ax to grind, but...

Postby McTojo » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:51 pm

Personally, I'm happy to see this program terminated. This was/is clearly not the solution for the countries woes. Japan does not need to internationalize anymore. Global 30 just won't work.
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Postby AML » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:12 am

Wow, really McTojo?

Japans education is already in the toilet. This is the final nail in the coffin as far as im concerned.

People here are probably some of the most ignorant ive ever met.

They dont learn anything at Jp universities then they graduate and join a company to then do 6 years of training!!
(Nissan does that, or so ive been told by guys i know who work there)
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:37 am

McTojo wrote:Personally, I'm happy to see this program terminated.


Why does it not surprise me that you would be opposed to an educational program?
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Postby IparryU » Tue Dec 21, 2010 11:57 am

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Why does it not surprise me that you would be opposed to an educational program?

he would probably be part of the crowd that wants to reduce schools time cause it costs money and also lower the educational standards to make it easier to graduate...

ya, make everyone stupider so china can take over fuck face. really smart...
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Because....

Postby McTojo » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:59 pm

AML wrote:Wow, really McTojo?

Japans education is already in the toilet. This is the final nail in the coffin as far as im concerned.

People here are probably some of the most ignorant ive ever met.

They dont learn anything at Jp universities then they graduate and join a company to then do 6 years of training!!
(Nissan does that, or so ive been told by guys i know who work there)



Japan's education is not in the toilet. High literacy rate, high math and science scores. It's America the lags in education,with some of the lowest test scores in the world.

If by saying that J Universities are not internationalized is the problem, then I'd say wrong. It's American and European universities that aren't Japanized, that's the problem..
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Postby McTojo » Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:01 pm

IparryU wrote:he would probably be part of the crowd that wants to reduce schools time cause it costs money and also lower the educational standards to make it easier to graduate...

ya, make everyone stupider so china can take over fuck face. really smart...



"yutori" if that's what you mean by lowering education standards then you are wrong. Japan produces top notch students:flame: The problem are the foreign professors. Get rid of them.
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Postby AML » Wed Dec 22, 2010 9:55 am

McTojo wrote:Japan's education is not in the toilet. High literacy rate, high math and science scores. It's America the lags in education,with some of the lowest test scores in the world.

If by saying that J Universities are not internationalized is the problem, then I'd say wrong. It's American and European universities that aren't Japanized, that's the problem..


What exactly is your idea of education?

Memorizing a bunch of facts and numbers from text books full of mistakes and inaccuracies?

If that's the case then Japan leads the world in "education"!

Ill admit that the literacy rate is higher than in many countries which is a good thing.

But, the topic here is higher education. And that is something japan isn't good at...

You say we should Japanize our universities? Please elaborate, on how that would be a good thing exactly?
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Postby Adhesive » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:18 am

AML wrote:What exactly is your idea of education?



Hi there, AML. Guess you didn't get the memo, but McTojo has long been outed as a troll, you may want to avoid feeding it.
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Postby Greji » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:24 am

McTojo wrote:The problem are the foreign professors. Get rid of them.


You might be right, but can I ask which Japanese University you attended and how many of the foreign professors you studied under, in order that you have the experience to make this profound statement?
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I am not a Troll!

Postby McTojo » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:25 am

Adhesive wrote:Hi there, AML. Guess you didn't get the memo, but McTojo has long been outed as a troll, you may want to avoid feeding it.


A troll is someone who doesn't contribute to the boards, I do contribute. I'm just picked on by people who only see things there way only. :puke:

As for higher education, I'm an expert.
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Postby IparryU » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:26 am

AML wrote:You say we should Japanize our universities? Please elaborate, on how that would be a good thing exactly?

get professors that never worked in the industry that they are teaching

give professors a text book that they have to follow (my profs never followed the text book cause they taught us from their experiences... i don't think they have a lot of that here)

when you mention japan in a good way, you have to say nippon. if you are not going to say nippon, dont even talk about that subject.
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Postby McTojo » Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:35 am

Greji wrote:You might be right, but can I ask which Japanese University you attended and how many of the foreign professors you studied under, in order that you have the experience to make this profound statement?
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I have never attended a Japanese university. I wish I could teach at a Japanese university. One such university that's really bad is the University of Nagoya's history department has foreign professors and a lot of them teach poorly. I need to work there.
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Postby IparryU » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:35 am

McTojo wrote:I have never attended a Japanese university. I wish I could teach at a Japanese university. One such university that's really bad is the University of Nagoya's history department has foreign professors and a lot of them teach poorly. I need to work there.

GREAT! Please do.

as long as you stay the fuck way from the good schools, everyone will be ok.
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Postby AML » Wed Dec 22, 2010 1:14 pm

Adhesive wrote:Hi there, AML. Guess you didn't get the memo, but McTojo has long been outed as a troll, you may want to avoid feeding it.


Yea i can see that.

But its ok.

He helps me vent my frustration and anger.

So really hes doing a good thing :D
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Postby yarichin01 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 11:21 pm

McTojo wrote:I have never attended a Japanese university. I wish I could teach at a Japanese university. One such university that's really bad is the University of Nagoya's history department has foreign professors and a lot of them teach poorly. I need to work there.


So if you have never attended a Japanese university how do you know the foreign professors are bad?

If you're not a troll then back your shit up with some sort of argument. I'm not asking for anything official; just state clearly the reasons why you feel that way. Did you ever think that may be why you're called out as such.

For example: In my opinion, I think Japan is full of many intelligent people and many Japanese scholars have contributed greatly to modern science and technology . However, Japanese universities suck donkey cock and most of these significant contributions were made outside of Japan and/or with collaborations with foreign scholars.

See, how hard was that.
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Postby Greji » Thu Dec 23, 2010 12:29 am

McTojo wrote:"..... One such university that's really bad is the University of Nagoya's history department has foreign professors and a lot of them teach poorly....."


Another profound statement McTurd. As has been suggested, besides writing a few proper sentences, please tell me why the U. of Nag's history department is bad and why the fg profs are teaching poorly? Also, what is the evidence you have to present such a sweeping indictment? The last question is: Do they even have a History Department? They have a College of Literature and Letters (depending how you wish to translate it). Could it be hidden inside there?
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