Airman Dead In Okinawa

[Mulboyne]

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[floatr][/floatr]Kyodo via Japan Today: U.S. airman found dead in Okinawa apartment
A U.S. airman was found dead with a cut to his neck Sunday in his apartment in Chatan, Okinawa Prefecture, Japanese police said, prompting them to launch a murder investigation. Curtis Eccleston, a 30-year-old master sergeant at the U.S. Kadena Air Base, who was initially reported by the police as holding the rank of technical sergeant, was found bleeding near the entrance of his apartment around noon by an acquaintance from the U.S. military, police said. Eccleston had sustained injuries to the neck by a blade-like object and there were no signs of a scuffle in the apartment located near the Kadena base and an entertainment district, according to the police.

Only last month, a New Zealander was found in similar circumstances in his apartment in Wakayama. Police at the time were unclear whether his wounds were self-inflicted, the result of an attack or if an accident had taken place.

[blacknois]

I have some training in forensic pathology and I could easily identify a self inflected wound to the throat. There are certain angles that a self inflicted wound can and cannot comply with. However the presence of a similar situation in the past month and the fact that this is an american living in the entertainment (prostitution and gambling region) tells me that more than likely this is a killing. Either way there are less American military personnel in Japan. Before you get all excited I was born in america and I am non Japanese.

[Mulboyne]

...However the presence of a similar situation in the past month and the fact that this is an American living in the entertainment (prostitution and gambling region) tells me that more than likely this is a killing...

You shouldn't draw any conclusions based on an unrelated case miles away. As it stands, this is already a murder investigation in Okinawa so there's been no attempt to pass it off as something else. I've seen no follow-up reports on the New Zealander in Wakayama - not even a mention in the New Zealand press, which is odd. Police in that instance were keeping their options open in the investigation.

EDIT: Looking again. NHK carried a report last week saying police had concluded there was no sign of foul play in Wakayama. It seems the man had a history of trying to stab himself and so they are treating it as suicide.

[Uthark_Runa]

Either way there are less American military personnel in Japan. Before you get all excited I was born in america and I am non Japanese.

What?

[matsuki]

However the presence of a similar situation in the past month and the fact that this is an american living in the entertainment (prostitution and gambling region) tells me that more than likely this is a killing. Either way there are less American military personnel in Japan.

Translation " I think he was murdered and I'm happy that there is one less US military person in Japan"

I might laugh if it was death by autoerotic asphyxiation but if he was murdered, I hope you vocally express your feelings to his fellow servicemen. I'm sure they'd be eager to listen to what you have to say.

[Iraira]

I have some training in forensic pathology and I could easily identify a self inflected wound to the throat. There are certain angles that a self inflicted wound can and cannot comply with.

Yeah, watching CSI and Dexter provides "some training".

[Mike Oxlong]

If there were no signs of a struggle, then it was probably someone he knew. That would likely be a gal pal or a colleague. You can't rule out some love triangle where the jealous boyfriend or hubby gets revenge, but I would have expected the deceased to put up a fight, unless the guy posed as a deliveryman or meter reader and got the drop on him...but you wouldn't figure your everyday Joji Suzuki to be a killing machine...which takes us back to someone who could get real close without arousing suspicion, and then cut him real bad real fast.

[color="Silver"]*full disclosure: I used to watch CSI too.[/color]

Some local coverage...

[Samurai_Jerk]

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Translation " I think he was murdered and I'm happy that there is one less US military person in Japan".

That's pretty much how I understood it too. Though I'm not sure how being born in the US and not being Japanese makes that opinion any more valid.

[Level3]

[Samurai_Jerk]

[Mulboyne]

While I can't comment on the quality of the policework in this case and it's possible they did fuck up, people do stab themselves.

The NHK report didn't elaborate much but it said a post mortem revealed only one wound and no signs of a struggle. The police heard testimony from his flat mates and family about previous efforts.

In the US, singer-songwriter Elliott Smith was believed to have stabbed himself in the chest although some still suspect foul play, not least because there were two wounds.

[matsuki]

http://ryukyushimpo.jp/news/storyid-173234-storytopic-1.html

4 or 5 foreign men and 1 woman (probably Japanese since they didn't say) were being noisy and an argument ensued in the parking lot and the victim's room. A man and a women were also later heard arguing up on the 4th floor. His door was unlocked and he was discovered by and acquaintance because his blood was flowing out of the entryway. Suicide in the entryway with the door unlocked...I think not. Seems almost too obvious what happened, I hope they catch the fucker that slit his throat.

[Mulboyne]

...Suicide in the entryway with the door unlocked...I think not...

No-one is calling the Okinawa incident a suicide. It's been a murder investigation from the very beginning.

[matsuki]

No-one is calling the Okinawa incident a suicide. It's been a murder investigation from the very beginning.

Sorry, that was a reply to this tool:

I have some training in forensic pathology and I could easily identify a self inflected wound to the throat.

[Level3]

So, the lesson is is you have some powerful friends at your back (the USAF)
or people in a position to conduct an independent autopsy, then the J police will treat a suspicious death as a murder?
And if you're a 19-year old nobody, then it's a "suicide", I guess.

In Japan, no gaijin get murdered, or at least no gaijin worth speaking of.

[Mike Oxlong]

Okinawa is this country's equivalent to Appalachia, and attitudes and services vary accordingly...

[Fullback]

Bullshit.

[Mike Oxlong]

To whom and on what are you calling BS?

[Fullback]

Your bullshit. Equivalent to Appalachia? Unless you're talking about the influence of redneck American Bubbas from the bases, then I would agree. If you're talking about the Okinawa people, then you're full of shit.

[Mike Oxlong]

Says you. There are intelligent, educated, cultured, accomplished people in Okinawa - and in Appalachia. But when looking at the groups as a whole, they tend to lag in education, employment, attitudes and some social services (like a good police force with resources to match).

[oyajikun]

Says you. There are intelligent, educated, cultured, accomplished people in Okinawa - and in Appalachia. But when looking at the groups as a whole, they tend to lag in education, employment, attitudes and some social services (like a good police force with resources to match).

I concur. Even mainland bar hostesses seem well educated in comparison...and don't get me started on medical 'professionals' on Okinawa.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Bullshit.

Learn how to use the "quote" button.

[Samurai_Jerk]

they tend to lag ... some social services (like a good police force with resources to match).

It seems that Oklahoma isn't much better.

Parents Fight To Find Truth Behind Daughter's Death
In July, 2000, Chanda was found dead with a gunshot wound to her upper chest at the home she shared with her boyfriend. He told police he woke up around midnight and found her slumped over on the back steps, bleeding.

When the investigator from the medical examiner's office arrived at the home, police told him the boyfriend said Chanda was suicidal. The investigator released the body to a funeral home and no autopsy was performed. ....

AND

Oklahoma's Lack Of Resources Means Few Autopsies
When a bullet shattered the face of 17-year-old Carissa Holliday and left her dead in a trailer outside of Tulsa, no doctor ever autopsied her body.

Instead, a forensic pathologist looked at her wound and filled vials with blood and fluid from her eyeballs, screening them for drugs and alcohol. Two days after her death, before the lab tests had even come back, the doctor ruled her death a suicide, records show.

Holliday's mother, Andrea, didn't believe the ruling—]It's not just an Oklahoma thang.[/url]

[(1VB)freels]

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Translation " I think he was murdered and I'm happy that there is one less US military person in Japan"

I might laugh if it was death by autoerotic asphyxiation but if he was murdered, I hope you vocally express your feelings to his fellow servicemen. I'm sure they'd be eager to listen to what you have to say.

This really blows my mind to think that you actually would prefer me, an American service member over here in Japan should be dead then be stationed over here? I don't think you have done your research. Please don't knock us over here. Without us over here the Japanese would be speaking Chinese! So please don't say such things. I implore you. We aren't bad people. Just because my mommy and daddy didn't send me to college doesn't mean that I am not educated and in-tuned with what is going on here. So again. As an American, please never wish death to those who are willing to sacrifice it all for your freedom. I thank you.

[matsuki]

This really blows my mind to think that you actually would prefer me, an American service member over here in Japan should be dead then be stationed over here? I don't think you have done your research. Please don't knock us over here. Without us over here the Japanese would be speaking Chinese! So please don't say such things. I implore you. We aren't bad people. Just because my mommy and daddy didn't send me to college doesn't mean that I am not educated and in-tuned with what is going on here. So again. As an American, please never wish death to those who are willing to sacrifice it all for your freedom. I thank you.

Ehhh, I hope you meant that toward the guy I was quoting

[Greji]

Ehhh, I hope you meant that toward the guy I was quoting

I don't know who he meant, but as a former Airdale I have to agree with VB, even though he is a active duty swab slinger:p

[(1VB)freels]

Exactly who were your quoting?? Yourself???? Please re-read what you have read. I don't appreciate what YOU have said.
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Greji- I love my job!!!! Thanks for the support!!!!

[Iraira]

Exactly who were your quoting?? Yourself???? Please re-read what you have read. I don't appreciate what YOU have said.
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Greji- I love my job!!!! Thanks for the support!!!!

He was referring to what Blacknois wrote...second post in this thread.

[McTojo]

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Translation " I think he was murdered and I'm happy that there is one less US military person in Japan"

I might laugh if it was death by autoerotic asphyxiation but if he was murdered, I hope you vocally express your feelings to his fellow servicemen. I'm sure they'd be eager to listen to what you have to say.

This guy sounds like me.... Hi Chokonen....

[BULL]

I have some training in forensic pathology and I could easily identify a self inflected wound to the throat. There are certain angles that a self inflicted wound can and cannot comply with. However the presence of a similar situation in the past month and the fact that this is an american living in the entertainment (prostitution and gambling region) tells me that more than likely this is a killing. Either way there are less American military personnel in Japan. Before you get all excited I was born in america and I am non Japanese.

This is the original post. blacknois is the one who could care less about his own military. I guess now that McTojo has acknowledged what he said (though he actually acknowledged the wrong guy, who doesn't agree with blacknois) that means he is a fully certified piece of shit. Just in case you didn't catch that McTojo, I think your a piece of shit. But hey everyone is entitled to thier own opinion...