Japanese families seek answers about Christchurch quake deaths

[ichigo partygirl]

Students' families consider legal action

Families of the Japanese students who died in the February earthquake want to know why the CTV building collapsed and are considering legal action.

The Toyama College of Foreign Languages lost 12 students in the collapse. Nine students were rescued from the building and four of them are still in hospital.

College professor Kuniaki Kawahata, who lost his 20-year-old daughter, Kyoko Kawahata, in the building, said from Japan that the families wanted answers.

"Parents of the deceased children want to know why that building alone collapsed so terribly and killed our children. All the other buildings are standing, so they need to know why," he said.

"If someone is to blame, I think they probably want to take some legal action, but first they want to make sure the same thing doesn't happen again and cause this kind of tragedy. That is all they want to do."
College president Hisao Yoshida was in Wellington yesterday to visit rescued student Rika Iwakura, 19, in hospital. Iwakura had her right leg amputated and is on dialysis. She was scheduled to leave Wellington Hospital yesterday.

Kawahata said three 19-year-old students rescued from the CTV building were in Japanese hospitals.

Kento Okuda had his right leg amputated, Norika Masutani had a "black and badly bruised" left foot, and Ayaka Naruse had a fractured hip bone and could only move around on crutches or in a wheelchair.

Masutani feared her foot would have to be amputated in order to free her from the CTV building. Rescue workers drilled through the floor beneath her to free her leg without amputation. She later thanked her rescuers when they visited her in hospital.

Naruse and Masutani were discharged from Christchurch Hospital in early March.

[rooboy]

So the Japanese parents act as if their kids are the only ones who got injured or killed during the CC earthquake in NZ? Fucking hell, they are doing this 'nihonjin are tokubestuna hito' shit when in fact so many more non Japanese were also killed and injured.

I aint got much sympathy for that kind of action after a tragedy. The foreigners who died in Kobe after that big one didn't go filing lawsuits cause they happened to live in a country that knows how fucking open it is to earthquakes but still has mostly shitty dwellings that aint quake-proof.

How about gaijin working for Japanese govt schools up northeast? How about their parents doing some legal action shit cause their kids chose to go to Japan? Bet they don't.

And they'd have more of a case cause the schools told gaijin to stay in the danger zone and keep teaching and living there. The Japanese in NZ did it all thru their own choice.

Nope, it's not on.

Perhaps the Japanese who also chose to buy property in Qld and got flooded out or chose to send their sprogs to study in Qld can also file a fucking lawsuit blaming the gaijin state for the fact they chose to go there. A Fucked Lawsuit by any interpretation if they go ahead.

[ichigo partygirl]

I think they have every right to want answers. The families of the New Zealanders killed also want to know why so many didn't make it out of this building. Legal action isn't really the way to go however (at least not this early on). The government have already announced a 'Royal Commission' enquiry - this is basically the highest "investigation" the NZ government can initiate.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Commission)

[Samurai_Jerk]

:confused: So the Japanese parents act as if their kids are the only ones who got injured or killed during the CC earthquake in NZ? Fucking hell, they are doing this 'nihonjin are tokubestuna hito' shit when in fact so many more non Japanese were also killed and injured.

I aint got much sympathy for that kind of action after a tragedy. The foreigners who died in Kobe after that big one didn't go filing lawsuits cause they happened to live in a country that knows how fucking open it is to earthquakes but still has mostly shitty dwellings that aint quake-proof.

How about gaijin working for Japanese govt schools up northeast? How about their parents doing some legal action shit cause their kids chose to go to Japan? Bet they don't.

And they'd have more of a case cause the schools told gaijin to stay in the danger zone and keep teaching and living there. The Japanese in NZ did it all thru their own choice.

Nope, it's not on.

Perhaps the Japanese who also chose to buy property in Qld and got flooded out or chose to send their sprogs to study in Qld can also file a fucking lawsuit blaming the gaijin state for the fact they chose to go there. A Fucked Lawsuit by any interpretation if they go ahead.

As usual, your illogical rant makes no sense.

Obviously the parents of Japanese students who died are going to be concerned with why their children died. That's not being Japan centric that's being focused on your own child. Pretty fucking normal if you ask me. Would you expect a Japanese parent to pursue legal action over the death of other people's children? Would you expect a Kiwi parent who lost a son or daughter to worry why a bunch of Japanese kids he didn't know died before looking into the reasons his child did?

Maybe it's just bad luck that the CTV building was the one that collapsed. Or maybe, as some news articles have implied, the building wasn't structurally sound and the owners ignored warnings. Wouldn't you want to follow up on those rumors if it was your child?

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Families of the Japanese students who died in the February earthquake want to know why the CTV building collapsed...

No brainer if you ask me. It's because it wasn't built using superior Japanese earthquake resistant construction techniques.

[rooboy]

As usual, your illogical rant makes no sense.

Obviously the parents of Japanese students who died are going to be concerned with why their children died. That's not being Japan centric that's being focused on your own child. Pretty fucking normal if you ask me. Would you expect a Japanese parent to pursue legal action over the death of other people's children? Would you expect a Kiwi parent who lost a son or daughter to worry why a bunch of Japanese kids he didn't know died before looking into the reasons his child did?
Maybe it's just bad luck that the CTV building was the one that collapsed. Or maybe, as some news articles have implied, the building wasn't structurally sound and the owners ignored warnings. Wouldn't you want to follow up on those rumors if it was your child?

As usual, you'd rather fuck around with my posts rather than see this one for what it is, a fair fucking perspective. So maybe "the building wasn't structurally sound and the owners ignored warning" - sounds familiar, matey?

Got it - this is the story of every fucking Japanese earthquake, including Kobe in the 1990s when you'd expect by this time the Japanese'd be a tad more interested in a bit of technological advancement as opposed to having dangerous and just fucking poor quality buildings that have no real protection against earthquakes in one of the most seismically active regions in the world.

AGAIN - you don't hear about countless foreigners caught up in Japan's earthquakes, typhoons and the recent triple whammy disaster going on about legal action. They'd have more fucking right to do that and more of a case in Japan with all the corrupt govt coverups and refusal to have building codes that arent' mostly a joke cause they aint followed in many cases.

You could foresee that sooner or later some real shit was gonna go down in Japan but Christchurch is not a name you use when talking about dangerous seismic regions where huge populations crammed in and shitty, shoddy buildings and widespread govt and business corruption stop people from being protected when a natural disaster strikes.

[ichigo partygirl]

No brainer if you ask me. It's because it wasn't built using superior Japanese earthquake resistant construction techniques.

Possibly. But why that particular building when other buildings built in the same era did not collapse? Apart from this building and one other, most people were killed by the falling masonry (bricks/stone) and not by building failure.

[Samurai_Jerk]

:jama:
As usual, you'd rather fuck around with my posts rather than see this one for what it is, a fair fucking perspective. So maybe "the building wasn't structurally sound and the owners ignored warning" - sounds familiar, matey?

Got it - this is the story of every fucking Japanese earthquake, including Kobe in the 1990s when you'd expect by this time the Japanese'd be a tad more interested in a bit of technological advancement as opposed to having dangerous and just fucking poor quality buildings that have no real protection against earthquakes in one of the most seismically active regions in the world.

AGAIN - you don't hear about countless foreigners caught up in Japan's earthquakes, typhoons and the recent triple whammy disaster going on about legal action. They'd have more fucking right to do that and more of a case in Japan with all the corrupt govt coverups and refusal to have building codes that arent' mostly a joke cause they aint followed in many cases.

You could foresee that sooner or later some real shit was gonna go down in Japan but Christchurch is not a name you use when talking about dangerous seismic regions where huge populations crammed in and shitty, shoddy buildings and widespread govt and business corruption stop people from being protected when a natural disaster strikes.

Chirstchurch Quake total death toll: 170+
Number of Toyama College students killed in CTV building collapse alone: 20

Tohoku Quake and Tsunami total death toll: 25,000
Number of foreigners confirmed dead in entire disaster so far: 19

See the difference in terms of relative impact on one group of people from outside the country?

[Ganma]

Maybe it's just bad luck that the CTV building was the one that collapsed. Or maybe, as some news articles have implied, the building wasn't structurally sound and the owners ignored warnings. Wouldn't you want to follow up on those rumors if it was your child?

From my understanding this is exactly what happened and the Japanese and anyone else who lost someone in that building have every right to take legal action. Apparently the building was structurally damaged after the first quake last year but the owner ignored advise given to do something about it.

[Samurai_Jerk]

From my understanding this is exactly what happened and the Japanese and anyone else who lost someone in that building have every right to take legal action. Apparently the building was structurally damaged after the first quake last year but the owner ignored advise given to do something about it.

Exactly. Rooboy just seems to have a chip on his shoulder about Asians and blacks soiling a pure white Australia. And even those this case has nothing to do with that it all gets connected in his twisted little mind.

[rooboy]

Exactly. Rooboy just seems to have a chip on his shoulder about Asians and blacks soiling a pure white Australia. And even those this case has nothing to do with that it all gets connected in his twisted little mind.

Now that's a real bullshit move as well as monumentally stupid. What hick town where cousins marry did you come from in the US?

Its obvious to any person w/out your chip on the shoulder for whatever fucking reason that talking about mass illegal migration of people who come from 3rd world tribal Muslim cultures that don't wanna compromise with the host nation they enter by their own choice but are happy to gobble up welfare for no contribution, has nothing to do with Asians or blacks "soiling a pure white Australia". Yes Afghanis come from tribes and that's part of the problem cause the world they inhabit needs to change or at least stay at home instead of being exported.

Your words buddy:spin:, not mine. Get ya head right and own your own words.

As for the real topic and not your attempt to concoct ideas that aint present, I don't see why the Japanese specifically in this case expect foreign countries to do all the things they won't do. And as Christchurch is not infamous as Japan is for the sheer number and scale of natural disasters, its lack of preparation for earthquakes is more fucking understandable than the same in a country noted for major ones at regular intervals plus typhoons.

[matsuki]

Its obvious to any person w/out your chip on the shoulder for whatever fucking reason that talking about mass illegal migration of people who come from 3rd world

Like Europeans did in all over the world? Being white doesn't make them right...