Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

[Coligny]

...This kind of psychotherapy is not common in Japan because therapists do not receive much compensation... http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T110504004530.htm

And as we all know a doctor primary goal is to make a shitload of money, not to help people whatsoever...

Greedo is gudu...

(this shit is turning into a perfect storm of kapitalism gone wild...)

[Ganma]

[SIZE="5"]Japan PM orders halt at Hamaoka nuclear plant[/SIZE]

Japan's prime minister has told a power company to halt operations at another nuclear plant due to fears an earthquake could trigger a new crisis.

Naoto Kan said three reactors at Hamaoka plant should be suspended until new safety measures were put in place.

Experts said the chances of a powerful quake hitting the area were high.

'Quake expected'
Addressing a news conference on Friday, Mr Kan said the five-reactor Hamaoka plant, operated by the Chubu Electric Power Company, had been ordered to suspend two running reactors and a third shut for a regular inspection.

The Hamaoka plant, which lies 200km (120 miles) south of Tokyo, is in Shizuoka prefecture - an area which seismologists say is overdue for an earthquake.

"The relevant authorities, including the science ministry, have shown that the possibility of a magnitude 8.0 earthquake hitting the area of the Hamaoka plant within the next 30 years is 87%," Mr Kan said.

"This is a decision made for the safety of the people when I consider the special conditions of the Hamaoka plant."

[Coligny]

Japan PM orders halt at Hamaoka nuclear plant

Naoto Kan... bigger balls than expected...

[Yokohammer]

Naoto Kan... bigger balls than expected...

Not sure that it's balls in this case.

There's a pretty vivid example of what can happen still ongoing and unresolved, so it's more a case of "duh."

[Samurai_Jerk]

Warren Buffett's conglomerate Berkshire Hathaway Inc reported a smaller profit for the first quarter, as reinsurance losses from the March 11 earthquake in Japan dragged down results.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110506/bs_nm/us_berkshire

[Catoneinutica]

Naoto Kan... bigger balls than expected...

And Chubu says, we'll think about it, which seems to me as akin to saying, go fuck yourself, but to a Japanese probably translates as, we'll have our people get in touch with your people and devise the optimum method for soaking the taxpayers.

[Coligny]

And Chubu says, we'll think about it, which seems to me as akin to saying, go fuck yourself, but to a Japanese probably translates as, we'll have our people get in touch with your people and devise the optimum method for soaking the taxpayers.

I've not been long enough here to see it clearly so allow me to just go on a memory dump:

Before the tsunami. Tepco just received an extension of 10 years for Fukushima beyond the plant expected service life. So basically, however dangerous the plant was, the governement was cought like a kid with his hand on the cookie jar.

Now here for Chubu, the governement ask them to close the plant as it is considered dangerous. From a liability standpoint, wouldn't any answer different from "roger wilco" IF anything bad(TM) happen, be the end of the company and total loss for the shareholders ? With potential criminal negligence charges for the higher ups ?

Fukushima had a lot of "what if"/"maybe"/"we'll see" before the accident, now they KNOW that in case of accident, they don't have the equipment, they don't have the knowledge, they needed the americans for reopenning the airport, the german and the chinese for the pump trucks and they have to call the French Areva after making fun of their panic in order to clean the mess in the long term. We're no longer on the realm of cute theories and endless suppositions, just need to turn on the news to know what will happen if (when) Hamaoka blows...

[Coligny]

Not sure that it's balls in this case.

There's a pretty vivid example of what can happen still ongoing and unresolved, so it's more a case of "duh."

You're thinking as an engineer, not as a politician...

87% in 30 years probability with last event less than a few month old. -> huge chances that it won't blow again while his in charge -> not his problem.

[Thug4Life]

Isn't it just great that Kan is now closing the gate after the horse has bolted. Great progress.

[Mulboyne]

A 78 year old carpenter from Rikuzen Takata decided against waiting for housing aid and has knocked together his own prefab. Tatsuro Kumatani finished it last month and celebrated with his wife, son and nephew over some instant ramen. He went back to the site of his old house very soon after the tsunami had hit and found nothing left. Only one structure among the 65 homes in his area was left standing. At first, he put up a tent and started to clear the rubble. Determined to return to his home, Kumatani declined to participate in the raffle for temporary housing run by the authorities. Living off relief supplies, he spent the nights by torchlight and installed a portable toilet to address immediate needs. City officials had advised against any immediate rebuilding because of concerns about hazardous material in the debris but did not specifically outlaw any construction. Kumatani said that his home is a beautiful place, near rivers, mountains and the sea, and he wanted to go back to show others that it was still possible to live there.



Source (Japanese)

[Yokohammer]

A 78 year old carpenter from Rikuzen Takata ...

This guy has become something of a cult hero. Sort of a symbol of resilience. Good stuff.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

City officials had advised against any immediate rebuilding because of concerns about hazardous material in the debris...

Why is it that anal Japanese pen-pushers go apeshit at things like disposing the wrong type of trash on a non-designated day, but couldn't give a flying fuck about lethal doses of radiation oozing into the atmosphere and seeping into the ground and ocean?

[cstaylor]

Why is it that anal Japanese pen-pushers go apeshit at things like disposing the wrong type of trash on a non-designated day

The curse of 1,000 little tyrants.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Quake shifted Japan; towns now flood at high tide

When water begins to trickle down the streets of her coastal neighborhood, Yoshiko Takahashi knows it is time to hurry home.

Twice a day, the flow steadily increases until it is knee-deep, carrying fish and debris by her front door and trapping people in their homes. Those still on the streets slosh through the sea water in rubber boots or on bicycle.

"I look out the window, and it's like our houses are in the middle of the ocean," says Takahashi, who moved in three years ago.

The March 11 earthquake that hit eastern Japan was so powerful it pulled the entire country out and down into the sea. The mostly devastated coastal communities now face regular flooding, because of their lower elevation and damage to sea walls from the massive tsunamis triggered by the quake.

In port cities such as Onagawa and Kesennuma, the tide flows in and out among crumpled homes and warehouses along now uninhabited streets.

A cluster of neighborhoods in Ishinomaki city is rare in that it escaped tsunami damage through fortuitous geography. So, many residents still live in their homes, and they now face a daily trial: The area floods at high tide, and the normally sleepy streets turn frantic as residents rush home before the water rises too high.

"I just try to get all my shopping and chores done by 3 p.m.," says Takuya Kondo, 32, who lives with his family in his childhood home.

Most houses sit above the water's reach, but travel by car becomes impossible and the sewage system swamps, rendering toilets unusable.

Scientists say the new conditions are permanent.

[Coligny]

Quake shifted Japan]

Remind me of this under-rated gem:
[url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105459/]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105459/

[Catoneinutica]

Why is it that anal Japanese pen-pushers go apeshit at things like disposing the wrong type of trash on a non-designated day, but couldn't give a flying fuck about lethal doses of radiation oozing into the atmosphere and seeping into the ground and ocean?

One of those J-paradoxes. For the last few years there've been a slew of articles, essays, and other sorts of effluvia about how Japan doesn't need any more economic growth. We Japanese are more "green" and sophisticated than you vulgar Chinese and Koreans because we live in harmony with nature (and having four seasons doesn't hurt).

But ask a typical J-person, soooo, since they've rendered a good part of Fukushima a Forbidden Zone, I guess you really should shut down those nuclear plants and take 'er easy and enjoy the hot, humid breezes of Summertime Japan? The reply: What?! Where will we get power for our factories?

[Catoneinutica]

Remind me of this under-rated gem:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105459/

Interesting cast: Rutger Hauer, Kim Cattrall, and Michael J Pollard as The Rat Catcher! Have to seek it out: it couldn't be worse than Waterworld.

[Thug4Life]

[Yokohammer]

BAD NEWS – Massive plume of over-sensationalized bullshit hammers FG.com thread!

Radiation update: The radiation level in Watari, 70 km from the Fukushima plant, was 0.13 µSv/h at around 3:30 PM yesterday afternoon (May 9). In Sendai it was 0.08 µSv/h.

The background radiation is much higher in several other places around the world.



Let me put that in perspective for you. 0.13 µSv/h works out to 1,138.8 µSv or about 1.14 mSv per year. The average background radiation in populated areas around the world is about 2.4 mSv per year. The highest background radiation levels on the planet are in Ramsar, Iran, at a peak of 260 mSv per year! An airline crew receives an extra dose (that means you have to add it to the background radiation) of about 2.2 mSv per year just from being in airplanes all the time.

So do us all a favor: learn a few facts, get things in perspective, and CUT THE CRAP!

[Thug4Life]

It is quite normal to still be in a state of denial/coverup. In fact, it is the exact same state that Tepco and the Japanese Government are in now:

Deadly Silence on Fukushima

Posted: 05/ 9/11

I received the following email a few days ago from a Russian nuclear physicist friend who is an expert on the kinds of gases being released at Fukushima. Here is what he wrote:

About Japan: the problem is that the reactor uses "dirty" fuel. It is a combination of plutonium and uranium (MOX). I suspect that the old fuel rods have bean spread out due to the explosion and the surrounding area is contaminated with plutonium which means you can never return to this place again. It is like a new Tchernobyl. Personally, I am not surprised that the authority has not informed people about this.....

I have been following the Fukushima story very closely since the earthquake and devastating tsunami. I have asked scientists I know, nuclear physicists and others about where they find real information. I have also watched as the news has virtually disappeared. There is something extremely disturbing going on, and having lived through the media blackout in France back in April and early May 1986, and speaking to doctors who are deeply concerned by the dramatic increase in cancers appearing at very young ages, it is obvious that information is being held back. We are still told not to eat mushrooms and truffles from parts of Europe, not wild boar and reindeer from Germany and Finland 25 years later.

A special thanks to people like European Representative Michele Rivasi, who has followed this issue since Chernobyl: Rivasi, a Green MEP and founder of France's Commission for Independent Research and Information on Radioactivity, told EurActiv that she was worried the tests would cover up nuclear risks and reinstate business as usual.

"It's very important to have scientists who are not already paid by the nuclear power industry," she said. "If they are the same people from Euratom and national authorities they use today, why would they say anything different to what they say all the time?"

One resource for information on Chernobyl deaths and cancers/illnesses was only just recently translated and can be found online: "Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment" by Alexey Yablokov, Vassily Nesterenko, and Alexey Nesterenko.

Another very good report on Chernobyl is this one, which also outlines the disturbing relationship between WHO and the nuclear industry.

The best site I have found for up-to-date information by nuclear industry experts is here.

Arnie Gundersen was a high-level executive for years and analyzes the information he has been receiving in a calm and scientific way. His latest update is entitled, "Fukushima Groundwater Contamination Worst in Nuclear History." Gundersen is in touch with senior members of the Japanese nuclear establishment. What is highly disturbing is that the main reason Japan does not appear to be as bad a Chernobyl is that the wind was blowing out to sea and not for the most part towards land. But all this has done is spread the cancers out into the worldwide population as opposed to concentrating it all in Japan. It will be very difficult to tell, as it was in France, Scandinavia and other places, where the Chernobyl cloud traveled in the days following the disaster. I will summarize some of Gunderson's very disturbing and important information here:

1. There was a hydrogen explosion, and it was a detonation, not a deflagration -- in other words the fire burned up not burned down.

2. A frame-by-frame analysis shows a flame that confirms that the fuel pool is burning as a result of an explosion which started as a hydrogen explosion but that could not have lifted the fuel into the air so there must have been a violent explosion at the bottom of the fuel pool. But more data is needed.

3. Gunderson speaks about past criticalities in other nuclear reactors around the world, and I find it odd we are not hearing about these and how they can teach us about what is going on now at Fukushima.

4. Radioactive water is being pumped out and groundwater is contaminated, so there must be a leak or leaks, and this disaster is in no way contained. There will be contamination for a long time to come and this groundwater contamination is moving inland. One town is reporting radioactive sewage sludge from ground water or rainwater.

5. The Greenpeace ship Rainbow water has requested the Japanese government to test the waters near Japan, and Japan has refused this independent data request. The EPA has also shut down all inspection centers and is NOT inspecting fish. (Why the silence?)

Since Gunderson made this latest video, just a day or so ago new photo evidence seems to be showing burning and new fires taking place at Fukushima (from TBS JNN Japan):



Why is this not on the front page of every single newspaper in the world? Why are official agencies not measuring from many places around the world and reporting on what is going on in terms of contamination every single day since this disaster happened? Radioactivity has been being released now for almost two full months! Even small amounts when released continuously, and in fact especially continuous exposure to small amounts of radioactivity, can cause all kinds of increases in cancers.

There is one particularly telling example of the media shielding TEPCO by suppressing information. This concerns "plutonium." According to Uesugi, after the reactor blew up on March 14, there was concern about the leakage of plutonium. However, astonishingly, until two weeks later when Uesugi asked, not a single media representative had raised the question of plutonium at TEPCO's press conferences.

On March 26, in response to Uesugi's query, TEPCO stated, "We do not measure the level of plutonium and do not even have a detector to scale it." Ironically, the next day, Chief Cabinet Secretary Edano announced that "plutonium was detected."

When TEPCO finally released data on radioactive plutonium on March 28, it stated that plutonium -238, -239, and -240 were found in the ground, but insisted that it posed no human risk. Since TEPCO provided no clarification of the meaning of the plutonium radiation findings, the mainstream press merely reported the presence of the radiation without assessment (link). Nippon Television on March 29 headlined its interview with Tokyo University Prof. Nakagawa Keiichi, a radiation specialist, "Plutonium from the power plant--No effect on neighbors."....

Now the Japanese government has moved to crack down on independent reportage and criticism of the government's policies in the wake of the disaster by deciding what citizens may or may not talk about in public. A new project team has been created by the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communication, the National Police Agency, and METI to combat "rumors" deemed harmful to Japanese security in the wake of the Fukushima disaster."

Continued...

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

...soooo, since they've rendered a good part of Fukushima a Forbidden Zone....

Tsk, tsk, tsk. How callous of you to go spreading groundless rumors at a time when thousands of people are suffering. (I can't wait to resume getting e-mails that don't begin with a reference to the sender praying for the victims of the disaster...maybe I should start each post from now on with a similar message. This disaster has been a boon for the Japanese victim business and the timing couldn't have been better with memories Kobe fading into the distance and WWII now only good enough to roll out in August and maybe March to mark the night Tokyo was almost obliterated. The only question is how Japan is going to turn people's suffering in Fukushima into something that foreigners are to blame for...maybe GE?)
There's no excess radiation in Fukushima. This is all a green project where we Japanese are allowing an area to revert to its natural state as an example of how attuned we are with nature.
What do you know, you Philistine, big-nosed, hairy barbarian?

[cstaylor]

...posting vastly inflated information about Fukushima Daiichi while munching away on a recycled Chinese sticky bun, washed down with melamine-poisoned milk

[Coligny]

[Coligny]

It is quite normal to still be in a state of denial/coverup. In fact, it is the exact same state that Tepco and the Japanese Government are in now:

Deadly Silence on Fukushima

Posted: 05/ 9/11



Continued...

Pointing out bullshit and fake science is not denial... When you quote stuff as weaseled and second to Tom Clancy only for the amount of irrelevant details dumped to make you forget the lack of real facts or honest analysis don't expect people to listen too much to your crazy hobo rants...

People like you are as much a danger in this situation as Tepco. Tepco hide, you, you just fill any blanks with your bullshit the same way creationnists do. "you don't know, so let me tell'ya..."

[sirwanksalot]

Click on Fag-for-lyfe's links and the first banner headline is a sponsor for Iodine supplements. He should be banned for relentless spamming.

[Typhoon]

From the source site:

http://transport.nilu.no/products/fukushima/index/?searchterm=nuclear

"ATTENTION: These products are highly uncertain based on limited information for the source terms. Please use with caution and understand that the values are likely to change once we obtain more information on the overall nature of the accident. The products should be considered informational and only indicate 'worst case scenario' releases. From what we've learned recently, it seems releases of this magnitude have not yet occurred. Furthermore, these modeling products are based on global meteorological data, which are too coarse to provide reliable details of the transport of the plume across Japan.

Currently we are using a daily releases distributed evenly of 0.1E18 Bq I-131, 0.1 E17 Cs-137, and 0.1 E19 Xe-133 per day."

These are computer model simulations, not actual measurements. The output from the model simulations is only as good as the input assumptions.

Either Alexander Higgins has no clue that he has no clue or he's simply trying to sell more KI tablets.

That Thug4Life is clueless is a given.

[sirwanksalot]

That McTojo is clueless is a given.

Is Queer4life an incarnation of McTojo?

[Samurai_Jerk]

It is quite normal to still be in a state of denial/coverup. In fact, it is the exact same state that Tepco and the Japanese Government are in now:

Deadly Silence on Fukushima

Posted: 05/ 9/11



Continued...

Fuck off your piece of shit Sinophile cock sucker.

[Typhoon]

Is Queer4life an incarnation of McTojo?

Fixed. Thanks.

It's easy to confuse one clueless poster, Clueless4Life, with another one, McTojo

[nikoneko]

Thank you Thug4Life, I have been reading your links and it has really opened my eyes to the lies we are presented. With further research I have found an even greater threat which has not been mentioned. Please take a look at this, it is very serious: http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html