Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

[CrankyBastard]

Cranky, Thuggy is a Justin Bieber fan (http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=272897#post272897). Justin Bieber is a 17-year-old pop idol. That makes Thuggy a child who can't be held responsible for his words or actions.

I should have known ... wasted my time trying to talk to a fucking kid. Fucking Internet.

Damn! Kids do say the darndest things, don't they?
Thanks for the heads up.

[Coligny]

My guess is that it's being poured into plastic bottles and sold for a shitload of money to wankers too fulll of themselves to drink water from the tap...

Dude... tap water in japan is a WMD (or P to be honest) for some... (*)





(*) Water of Mass PooPshiun... 8 years here...still have to boil everything or end up stuck in the loo for a day and a night...

[Coligny]

It's official... consumers not shareholders to foot Tepco'z bill for the nukular crisis. (16% for direct Tepcos customers, 2% for the rest of Japan)
http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201105120190.html

Ain't kapitalism nice...

[Yokohammer]

It's official... consumers not shareholders to foot Tepco'z bill for the nukular crisis. (16% for direct Tepcos customers, 2% for the rest of Japan)

OK, that really, really sucks.
Even though we are billed by Tohoku Denryoku and not Tokyo Denryoku, we get to pay for the privilege of being irradiated. Lovely.

And this:

Since the Fukushima crisis erupted, TEPCO's stock price has plunged to 498 yen, one-quarter its worth before the March 11 tsunami crippled the nuclear plant.

Leading banks and insurance companies holding a large number of shares in TEPCO have posted losses of tens of billion yen. However, if the utility's stock ends up being devalued or delisted, they will be exempt from losses.

These fuckers are going to slither away without so much as a slap on the wrist.

[Mike Oxlong]

Japan, world's third largest importer of LPG, set to import record amounts this year...

[dimwit]

[Thug4Life]

Cranky, Thuggy is a Justin Bieber fan (http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showthread.php?p=272897#post272897). Justin Bieber is a 17-year-old pop idol. That makes Thuggy a child who can't be held responsible for his words or actions.

I should have known ... wasted my time trying to talk to a fucking kid. Fucking Internet.

[Coligny]

Really interesting article in the Toronto Startoday.



The design of the thing is exactly what most other town should have been doing]to protect residences [/B]and leave the area close to the sea for businesses (UNPROTECTED). Had this been done throughout the area the death toil would have been cut to a fraction of what it was, and considering the cost of building the breakwall at Kamaishi I not sure that it would have cost any more.

Are you new to the whole japanese special cultural superiority thingymabob ? Because it seems that you considered they should spend money protect lives instead of companies...

[Mike Oxlong]

[SIZE="4"]Radioactive substance detected in incinerator ashes in Tokyo[/SIZE]

A highly radioactive substance was detected in incinerator ashes at a sewage plant in eastern Tokyo in late March, shortly after the start of the nuclear crisis at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power station, metropolitan government sources said Friday.

The radioactive density of the substance reached 170,000 becquerels per kilogram, the sources said.

The ashes, which have already been recycled as construction materials, including cement, were collected from a sludge plant in Koto Ward.

Almost at the same time in late March, a radioactive substance of 100,000-140,000 becquerels per kg was also detected in ashes at two other sewage plants in Ota and Itabashi wards, the sources said.

The radiation levels went down to 15,000-24,000 becquerels per kg at the three sewage plants a month later, they added.

The substance has yet to be identified and researchers are currently looking into whether it is radioactive cesium, the sources said.

Meanwhile, the municipal government of Maebashi, Gunma Prefecture, said Friday it has detected radioactive cesium of 41,000 becquerels per kg from incinerator ashes collected Monday at a water sanitation facility.

It also said it has detected cesium with a density of 1,844 becquerels per kg from sludge and 17,090 becquerels per kg from molten slag that was processed at a high temperature.

It is keeping the radioactivity-contaminated materials at the water sanitation facility and plans to dispose of them under instruction from the central government, city officials said.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/radioactive-substance-detected-in-incinerator-ashes-in-tokyo

[Mike Oxlong]

Fukushima - One Step Forward and Four Steps Back as Each Unit Challenged by New Problems
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[Mike Oxlong]

[SIZE="4"]Worker dies after collapsing at Fukushima nuclear plant[/SIZE]

A worker at the crippled Fukushima nuclear power plant died Saturday after collapsing while carrying materials as part of crisis-fighting operations, the operator said.

It is the first time a worker has died at the plant operated by Tokyo Electric Power Co since the March 11 mega earthquake and tsunami triggered a series of radiation leakage accidents there.

No radioactive substances have been detected on the man, who was in his 60s, and he apparently sustained no injuries, the utility said. The man had started working at the plant on Friday and was wearing protective gear at the time of the accident. He was exposed to radiation totaling 0.17 millisievert.

The man, an employee of a subcontractor, collapsed about one hour after he began working at 6 a.m. Saturday with another worker at a waste disposal processing facility. He became unconscious when he was taken to a medical room inside the plant past 7 a.m., the utility said.

The other worker has complained of no health problem, the company added.

The accident occurred as the company continued Saturday work to install a new cooling system at the No. 1 plant, where much of the fuel in the core has melted after being fully exposed.

http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/worker-dies-after-collapsing-at-fukushima-nuclear-plant

[Mike Oxlong]

[Yokohammer]

Another in a growing series of "belated disclosures."

Now they're saying that high radiation readings on the eve of the quake indicate that it might have been the quake that triggered the problems at Fukushima Daiichi, not so much the tsunami. This makes Tepco look even more lax in terms of disaster preparedness. The old "we didn't expect a tsunami of that size" excuse is starting to look a bit weak.

Quake 'hurt reactors before tsunami'

[matsuki]

It's official... consumers not shareholders to foot Tepco'z bill for the nukular crisis. (16% for direct Tepcos customers, 2% for the rest of Japan)
http://www.asahi.com/english/TKY201105120190.html

Ain't kapitalism nice...

The answer should be pretty obvious to those than own property and can afford to set it up, solar power. The rest of us, time to pay.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I remember joking as a kid about what it would be like to microwave a cat (those were the days before I discovered there were much more exciting things to do with pussies...).
Now, living in the Land of the Rising Seivert, I kinda get the feeling that I would have imagined went through the cat's mind had I gone through with my dastardly thoughts as a young man....
....I wonder if we'll all blow up like eggs just before the bell pings to signal were cooked?

[Yokohammer]

The answer should be pretty obvious to those than own property and can afford to set it up, solar power. The rest of us, time to pay.

Seriously considering this. Quite a few houses around where I am have solar systems installed, some of our relatives included, and apparently it allowed them to carry on pretty much uninterrupted during the extended power outage ... at least while there was a decent supply of sunshine. I'm thinking that I'd much rather invest in something like that than pay fucking Tepco a dime, even indirectly.

[matsuki]

Seriously considering this. Quite a few houses around where I am have solar systems installed, some of our relatives included, and apparently it allowed them to carry on pretty much uninterrupted during the extended power outage ... at least while there was a decent supply of sunshine. I'm thinking that I'd much rather invest in something like that than pay fucking Tepco a dime, even indirectly.

THIS....I'd do it in a heartbeat if I I could. I know people make money off of it as well (not much but hey) as the power they produce always seems to exceed what they use. I assume what they get paid for it will go up as TEPCO charges more.

Whoever figures out how to make an affordable, small, portable version that can be put on apartment balconies will be the man.

[damn name]

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[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I'm not trying to toot my own horn here....

...but, you've done so anyway!

[damn name]

Yes, you're right. I'll delete it.

[Coligny]

Seriously considering this. Quite a few houses around where I am have solar systems installed, some of our relatives included, and apparently it allowed them to carry on pretty much uninterrupted during the extended power outage ... at least while there was a decent supply of sunshine. I'm thinking that I'd much rather invest in something like that than pay fucking Tepco a dime, even indirectly.

Us too... But the bunker got a flat roof and all the installers around seems to only deal with normal residential houses... And I want to keep a bit of the roof for a lifeboat, and another bit for a fixed wing UAV landing strip...

[Coligny]

Originally Posted by damn name
I'm not trying to toot my own horn here....

I've seen movies aboot this... seems it's awesome... but you need years of Yoga practice...

[matsuki]

Us too... But the bunker got a flat roof and all the installers around seems to only deal with normal residential houses... And I want to keep a bit of the roof for a lifeboat, and another bit for a fixed wing UAV landing strip...

Some of the panel setups I've seen looked more like trees than anything. Basically panels mounted on posts that could rotate and tilt to get the best light. Some other ones were round and using some new technology that let them get light from almost any angle, I assume they could be mounted on posts as well. With some creativity those kinds of setups could be integrated quite nicely in your garden or on your roof.

[cstaylor]

I've seen movies aboot this... seems it's awesome... but you need years of Yoga practice...

And you wonder why Japan is flying Predator drones over your place...

[Coligny]

And you wonder why Japan is flying Predator drones over your place...

No, just if I can legally moon them... totally different matter... (and level of insanity)

Some of the panel setups I've seen looked more like trees than anything. Basically panels mounted on posts that could rotate and tilt to get the best light. Some other ones were round and using some new technology that let them get light from almost any angle, I assume they could be mounted on posts as well. With some creativity those kinds of setups could be integrated quite nicely in your garden or on your roof.

In Japan ? because all the shops around here only have the basic setups...

[damn name]

Let me clear something up. The post I deleted was about the recent stories that Reactor #1 was damaged early on by the quake, and people in the press are saying this is new information. On March 20th, I posted in this thread that it appeared to me it that the pressure vessel was breached and the cooling system failed before the tsunami damaged the backup power systems.

One likely place the RPV failed was in the control rod system. The control rods inject from the bottom of the RPV and the resin used to seal the outside diameter of rods probably melted, creating a path for primary coolant to drain from the bottom of the pressure vessel. Internal structures of the reactor melted, along with fuel, and dropped to the bottom, closing off some of the breach, but it is likely still leaking. What's not known is how much.

I'm just surprised that supposed experts (including the press) didn't surmise what I did almost two months ago from publicly available information, since I don't consider myself to be an expert at all.

[Coligny]

Let me clear something up. The post I deleted was about the recent stories that Reactor #1 was damaged early on by the quake, and people in the press are saying this is new information. On March 20th, I posted in this thread that it appeared to me it that the pressure vessel was breached and the cooling system failed before the tsunami damaged the backup power systems.

One likely place the RPV failed was in the control rod system. The control rods inject from the bottom of the RPV and the resin used to seal the outside diameter of rods probably melted, creating a path for primary coolant to drain from the bottom of the pressure vessel. Internal structures of the reactor melted, along with fuel, and dropped to the bottom, closing off some of the breach, but it is likely still leaking. What's not known is how much.

I'm just surprised that supposed experts (including the press) didn't surmise what I did almost two months ago from publicly available information, since I don't consider myself to be an expert at all.

What would be cute, is you to link to your post back then so we can reconsider everything that was analysed back then... because, I don't know if you noticed, but the thread is now 240 pages long...

[damn name]

Here is that post: http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/showpost.php?p=268977&postcount=1471

"2. Did the facility survive the quake and tsunami unscathed, only to be brought down by the back-up generators failing later? No. Those initial reports look like they were wrong. Immediately after the quake and before the tsunami, the pressure in the containment vessel (called the PCV - Primary Containment Vessel - the concrete enclosure) of Reactor 1 increased while the pressure in the reactor vessel (the PRV - Primary Reactor Vessel - the steel enclosure of the core) decreased far more than would be expected as the reactor automatically shut down. It appears that there was an immediate breach of the #1 reactor vessel into the containment.

The operators tried to start the Emergency Core Cooling System (ECCS) to the reactor, but it didn't work. The ECCS should uses the Uninterruptible Power Supply (UPS). The UPS has batteries and a capacitor trip system. The capacitors are in a constant state of charge, so the voltage can be released instantly to open the valves of the ECCS and start the pumps, with the batteries powering the system later.

It appears that the cooling pipes or valves of #1 Reactor Pressure Vessel were damaged from the quake."

[Greji]

No, just if I can legally moon them... totally different matter... (and level of insanity)

I wonder if a guy could flash them from the top floor of Sukai Tsuri when it get's finished. Hmmmm......

[matsuki]

In Japan ? because all the shops around here only have the basic setups...

Mostly in the US but they were by Japanese manufacturers.

Check this out, I'm sure their Japanese distributors mark up the products to high hell but this company has some neat stuff:

http://www.powerfilmsolar.com/