Chinese Naval Power!

[matsuki]

LOL

DALIAN, Aug. 10 (Xinhua) -- China's refitted aircraft carrier platform left its shipyard at Dalian Port in northeast China's Liaoning Province on Wednesday morning to set sail for its first sea trial.

Military sources said that the trial is in line with the carrier's refitting schedule and will not take a long time. Refitting work will continue after the vessel has returned to the port.

The carrier was originally built by the former Soviet Union, which failed to complete the ship's construction before collapsing in 1991. The still-unnamed aircraft carrier was an empty shell when it was sold to Ukraine. Ukraine later disarmed it and removed its engines before selling it to China.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-08/10/c_131040676.htm

How long before they have to bury or sink this thing to coverup something?

[Greji]

LOL

How long before they have to bury or sink this thing to coverup something?

I hope they don't bury it. If they sink it, it'll make a nice reef (probably radioactive one at that, but maybe that will offset the mercury in the fish)....

[matsuki]

If they sink it, it'll make a nice reef (probably radioactive one at that, but maybe that will offset the mercury in the fish)....

...or mutate the fish/corals into Poseidon's monsters

(and give us a new sushi flavor?)

[Coligny]

...or mutate the fish/corals into Poseidon's monsters

(and give us a new sushi flavor?)

It's a conventionnal boat, not nukular... And i'm pretty sure it was even once sold in china to be converted as a seaside water theme park but the project got canned because of funding... Then he got back to try to look like an aircarrier... I don't know if Chinese sailor are superstitious... but this boat is just a big floating bondoogle of badluck waiting to ruin some admiral carreer...

[Samurai_Jerk]

[Hikonejou]

RLMFAO!

What a PIECE OF SHIIIIIIIIIIIT!

An "OLD" Soviet (Cold War Era) Aircraft Carrier...that's the best China could do?

1. That POS will end up at the bottom of the Sea someday.
or
2. It will be torn down to razor blades in order to shave my nads.

[Typhoon]

LOL




http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-08/10/c_131040676.htm

How long before they have to bury or sink this thing to coverup something?

With that bow curve, it could be turned into a ski jump.

[Mike Oxlong]

[BigInJapan]

The carrier was originally built by the former Soviet Union, which failed to complete the ship's construction before collapsing in 1991. The still-unnamed aircraft carrier was an empty shell when it was sold to Ukraine. Ukraine later disarmed it and removed its engines before selling it to China.

Hmm, foreign technology being reused by the Chinese. Worked fine with their version of the Shinkansen right?
Maybe it'll get hit by lightning...

[Coligny]

With that bow curve, it could be turned into a ski jump.

FFSake... IT IS CALLED A SKYJUMP.... The navalised version of the SU27 (SU33) and MIG 29 (MIG 29 K) use this instead on catapults...

[Greji]

FFSake... IT IS CALLED A SKYJUMP.... The navalised version of the SU27 (SU33) and MIG 29 (MIG 29 K) use this instead on catapults...

You know I always wondered why they never liked catapults???

[Jack]

RLMFAO!

What a PIECE OF SHIIIIIIIIIIIT!

An "OLD" Soviet (Cold War Era) Aircraft Carrier...that's the best China could do?

1. That POS will end up at the bottom of the Sea someday.

We all know that's just a matter of time.

[Coligny]

You know I always wondered why they never liked catapults???

Because they never really believed in the need for aircraft carrier either...
(and them steamy cats are not easy or cheap to implement on a small cooking oil boat, unlike nukies where pressurized steam is a free all you can eat byproduct...)

Maybe because AC are mostly for force projection and...

Unlike 50 years of cold war propaganda said... Them Russian were not exactly aboot taking over the world but more aboot minding their own business behing their puppet buffer states...

Therefore... a plenty of "don't fuck with me or i'll KEEEEL YOU" stuff (long range bombers, boomer subs), but not much "surprise pajama party, i'll bring the popcorm" stuff... Unless somebody somewhere made the cunning plan to send all those T72 and BTR80 to Washington by mail and expected them not to be lost in transit or blocked for paperwork in customs...

And also... where do you retrofit a catapult on this bondoogle:


(Admiral Gorshkov Class AC)

[Coligny]

Seems they also like to hide missile silos under the flight deck... leaving no more rooms for the steam pipez...



(in this picture: WTF... somebody reused a boomer blueprint and forgot to remove unused stuff...)

[Coligny]

[Yokohammer]

[Coligny]

Would that be the real Ikea or one of the phony ones?
Might want to check that carrier too, to make sure it's not made of cardboard.

No way it's cardboard... they dip it in pig fat and sell it as buns...

[matsuki]

[Russell]

It's a conventionnal boat, not nukular... And i'm pretty sure it was even once sold in china to be converted as a seaside water theme park but the project got canned because of funding... Then he got back to try to look like an aircarrier... I don't know if Chinese sailor are superstitious... but this boat is just a big floating bondoogle of badluck waiting to ruin some admiral carreer...

Yes, you are right, and they also bought a second one!
[quote]While experts' eyes may be on the sea trials of the Varyag, another vessel has been making waves in the Chinese media.

Like the Varyag, the Kiev is a former Soviet aircraft carrier. Like the Varyag –] more...

[Russell]

[Coligny]

US asks China to explain why it needs aircraft carrier

That's quite ballsy... with a side serving of arrogance...

BTW... they can tell they need something to move trucks by sea...


(yup... we really did use the deck of an aircarrier to move trucks from France to the Persian Gulf in 91', but at least it was the Clemenceau... Not the other one named 'Foch' after a guy who publicly said in 1914 that aircraft will always be useless toys unsuited for the purpose of war operations...)

[cujojpn]

That's quite ballsy... with a side serving of arrogance...

That's what I was thinking..

Meanwhile in Amerika -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Gerald_R._Ford_(CVN-78)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_F._Kennedy_(CVN-79)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CVN-80

3 Carriers in the next 13 years.

[Coligny]

I sort of don't see the rearward island on the deck of the Ford Class Carriers as a really bright idea...

It look designed by the accounting service, not by an airman... "so peeps, you will land on a moving patch of iron, rocked by the sea, and be kind enough to avoid the building on the right"...

Honestly... I would have done like for the Charles de Gaulle, as much forward as allowed by the front catapult...

[matsuki]

Hey, the enemy needs something on there to target

[Russell]

[matsuki]

Taiwan, the self-governing island democracy claimed by China as its own, has responded to the growing Chinese threat by developing missiles capable of striking carriers at sea. An illustration at a display Wednesday of military technology in the capital Taipei showed a Hsiung Feng III missile hitting a carrier that was a dead ringer for the former Varyag.

Let's see a live demonstration!

[Coligny]

Let's see a live demonstration!

I sort of... can do without this... My dance card for catastrophes, natural or man made is sort of already full for 2011...

[BigInJapan]

[Coligny]

Right. Just like Japanese whaling is for scientific research...

Well except that in this case... it would make much more sense to start with a second hand shell, lots of ducktape and copycat Russian fighter rather than trying to reinvent the wheel with absolutely no clues aboot what a wheel looks like... like your first car... better go with a cheap crap allready beaten up than... building a car by yourself...

[Russell]

Let's see a live demonstration!

Be careful what you wish. If Taiwan needs to fire its missiles at China's carrier, there will be a major world crisis, involving the US and Japan.