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The End of Shinsuke Shimada?

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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:50 am

IparryU wrote:korean girls looking more hot that japanese girls... they all look the same


But Korean girls get proper dental work and are much better at keeping their legs smooth, saved and unbruised so they win there too.

korean boys looking more gay and femine than japanese guys


I'd say it's a toss up when it comes to idols and TV tarento but they average kid on the streets if Seoul looks more masculine.
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Postby IparryU » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:26 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:I'd say it's a toss up when it comes to idols and TV tarento but they average kid on the streets if Seoul looks more masculine.

well.. they all gots to go to the military..

from some of my marine friends... they like going to s.korea cause their troops are quite strong and are known for good fights. so any grunt wanting some good ol fights likes sk as it is also close to the PI...

very true about the quality of sk women too... skin is as smooth as silk, they are better singers, dancers IMO.

but they still look alike...
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Postby Takechanpoo » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:38 pm

Typhoon wrote:The Koreans have allowed their films and dramas to be subtitled and shown online under license (or not). Both have become quite popular. Same for music.
The result is that Korean culture is enjoying something of a boom in Asia and even elsewhere.

looks like you fatally misunderstand.
Korean government itself bought those. And the view counts of Korean contents in Youtube too.
All put-up job by Kimchi-self.
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Postby Greji » Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:19 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:looks like you fatally misunderstand.
Korean government itself bought those. And the view counts of Korean contents in Youtube too.
All put-up job by Kimchi-self.

My, my, Take. Reading that post, one might get the idea that you don't like people of Korean descent.......
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Postby IparryU » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:02 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:looks like you fatally misunderstand.
Korean government itself bought those. And the view counts of Korean contents in Youtube too.
All put-up job by Kimchi-self.

and this is what you misunderstand... japan not doing so is losing out... sorry takechan... every rising son has to set...
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Postby Coligny » Mon Aug 29, 2011 2:17 pm

Takechanpoo wrote:looks like you fatally misunderstand.
Korean government itself bought those. And the view counts of Korean contents in Youtube too.
All put-up job by Kimchi-self.


I shall call theee Takefox Mulder...

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Postby dimwit » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:13 am

The Daily Yomiuri claims that Shinsuke was being harassed by some Uyoku as a result of something he said on TV and went to the Yaks to get them off his back.

"A man in an organized crime group helped me solve a problem, and I felt I had an obligation to him," Shimada, 55, said last Tuesday night in Tokyo during the press conference at which he announced his retirement. He referred respectfully to the gangster, a senior member of the Yamaguchi-gumi crime syndicate, even though it was their relationship that had brought Shimada's career to an end.

According to investigators, several years ago Shimada made a comment on TV that offended members of a right-wing organization, who began to harass him.

Shimada met the senior gang member through Jiro Watanabe, a former boxing world super flyweight champion who is currently making a final appeal against a prison sentence for attempted extortion.

The gang member resolved Shimada's problem with the right-wing organization, and became close to the TV celebrity.



Funny how no one ever seems to want to go after them.:rolleyes:
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:50 am

dimwit wrote:The Daily Yomiuri claims that Shinsuke was being harassed by some Uyoku as a result of something he said on TV and went to the Yaks to get them off his back.



Funny how no one ever seems to want to go after them.:rolleyes:


If that's true, I can sympathize with the guy because you know the J-popos never would have done shit about that.
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Postby IparryU » Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:39 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:If that's true, I can sympathize with the guy because you know the J-popos never would have done shit about that.

cant wait to see the day where someone calls out the police on that... will prolly never happen in our life time...

i bet the USofA's MC would love to have a special assignment to go and eliminate all the yaks... sorta like Iraq but less sand...
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Postby Greji » Tue Aug 30, 2011 1:05 pm

dimwit wrote:Funny how no one ever seems to want to go after them.:rolleyes:

Hey! Who wants a matching set of broke kneecaps? Ain't nobody gonna bother the fellas!
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Postby Dreamy_Peach » Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:51 pm

It's interesting to compare and contrast the Japanese and Korean approach to cultural exports.

The Koreans have allowed their films and dramas to be subtitled and shown online under license (or not). Both have become quite popular. Same for music.
The result is that Korean culture is enjoying something of a boom in Asia and even elsewhere.

The Japanese appear to spend their time and energy trying to hunt down alleged copyright violators and having their films, dramas, and music pulled from popular sites.
The impression is that they also are very reluctant (or too demanding in terms of royalties) to license their media content for overseas viewing.
Very short sighted in my view.

This is slightly off topic. But on the issue of media and cultural exports, one area where Japan would have significant clout would be its porn industry.

The quality of a lot of it is admittedly poor, but it seems to be be totally galapagos-ized. Last time I looked at DMM, sokmil etc. websites they were totally in Japanese and purchase required registration of a Japanese credit card. A very ridiculous situation.

The income Japanese suppliers could be making from this would be enormous. For various reasons, and they are probably understandable, this is a route that doesn't seem to be too vigorously explored.
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Postby Coligny » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:34 pm

Dreamy_Peach wrote:This is slightly off topic. But on the issue of media and cultural exports, one area where Japan would have significant clout would be its porn industry.

The quality of a lot of it is admittedly poor, but it seems to be be totally galapagos-ized. Last time I looked at DMM, sokmil etc. websites they were totally in Japanese and purchase required registration of a Japanese credit card. A very ridiculous situation.

The income Japanese suppliers could be making from this would be enormous. For various reasons, and they are probably understandable, this is a route that doesn't seem to be too vigorously explored.

There is only 2 thing allowing JAV to survive,
-the illiteracy of porn seekers to find anything on th3 interwab.
-the 'no peener or poonany censorship laws which makes:
the production/review cost to import fureign pr0n legally

And you would end up with pr0n between consenting adult totally threatening for the poor j-fag...

I mean... how could Tanaka be able to relate to this guy ?
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The market for jporn outside japan might be the smaller than the german sheißporno...
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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:11 am

In the aftermath of Shimada's resignation, tonsorially-tested TV regular Tomoaki Ogura made some comments on Fuji's "Tokudane!" which appeared to defend mob links.

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The fuss was such that Ogura had to apologize in a later programme:

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Now, Tokyo Sports suggests on its front page that "Tokudane!" may be cut from the schedules.

Elsewhere, ZakZak says (Japanese) that a number of top stars are now nervous about whether their own mob links might come to light. In particular, a few established stars who would be automatic selections for Kohaku could be tainted through past associations. There are two pressing problems for them. Firstly, Shimada's resignation sets something of a benchmark for what level of contact is unacceptable. Secondly, the police are now investigating Yoshimoto so management companies may be under pressure to vet their stars more thoroughly.

The Yomiuri had this piece in its English edition:

Lights, camera, corruption / Crime's longstanding ties to showbiz world tough to untangle
The retirement last week of a popular TV host due to his relationship with a gang member has brought attention to the deep and longstanding ties between organized crime and the entertainment business. Various parts of society have made active efforts to eradicate links with crime syndicates, but the entertainment world is yet to follow suit. Police have indicated they will step up efforts to oust organized crime from the entertainment industry following the retirement of Shinsuke Shimada. The National Police Agency will ask people from Yoshimoto Kogyo Co., the talent agency that represented Shimada before his retirement, to provide details about Shimada's connections to the criminal underworld. "A man in an organized crime group helped me solve a problem, and I felt I had an obligation to him," Shimada, 55, said last Tuesday night in Tokyo during the press conference at which he announced his retirement. He referred respectfully to the gangster, a senior member of the Yamaguchi-gumi crime syndicate, even though it was their relationship that had brought Shimada's career to an end.

According to investigators, several years ago Shimada made a comment on TV that offended members of a right-wing organization, who began to harass him. Shimada met the senior gang member through Jiro Watanabe, a former boxing world super flyweight champion who is currently making a final appeal against a prison sentence for attempted extortion. The gang member resolved Shimada's problem with the right-wing organization, and became close to the TV celebrity.

Troubles in their off-screen lives can seriously damage celebrities' careeers, and the desire to resolve such troubles discreetly can be an opportunity for crime syndicates to take advantage of them. "It seems many famous showbiz types' first interaction with crime groups comes when they ask the gangs to solve problems for them, such as collecting unpaid appearance fees or breaking off relationships with members of the opposite sex," said a senior police official who specializes in organized crime investigations. Once a relationship is established, gang members repeatedly remind the celebrity of their "debt," making it difficult for the celebrity to cut ties.

Some situations of this kind see the debt repaid with cash. For example, a leading talent agency that was investigated in a tax-evasion case in 2001 was found to have made regular payments of several million yen to an organized crime group the agency had asked to handle a problem involving an artist on the agency's books. Over the last couple of years, Yoshimoto has stressed to its artists the importance of not interacting with gang members. But Shimada did not heed the warnings. A Yoshimoto executive said: "An artist who has a problem that needs solving should ask a lawyer or the police. It's totally wrong to get involved with a senior member of the Yamaguchi-gumi crime syndicate."

The links between organized crime and show business go back to the years after World War II, when gangs began arranging musical and theatrical events, according to showbiz journalist Yuji Watanabe. Even if organized crime groups could be stopped from forming new relationships in the entertainment world, many show business people would still be carrying an outstanding "debt" to a crime syndicate. Gang members have long invited celebrities to their golf tournaments and parties "to boast and show off their influence," a senior police officer said.

But in recent years, gang members have used celebrities' name recognition to benefit their business deals. A man with professional ties to the entertainment world said he was asked to invest in a Dubai-based business by a veteran actor whom he had met through the head of a crime syndicate. The man declined to invest. "I thought the syndicate was using a face from showbiz to give the project some credibility. I thought the gangsters were planning to manage the business in the end," the man said.

In early March, after the dust settled from investigations into crime syndicates' involvement in sumo match-fixing, a senior NPA official said: "The entertainment world is one of the few refuges left for organized crime. We hope to demolish the relationship between the two somehow." Police authorities have long sought the help of people within various fields--from sports to construction to finance businesses--to eradicate organized crime from their industries. The entertainment business, however, lacks a representative body like the Japan Sumo Association that can unite different groups within the industry.

Another problem is that contracts between artists and their management agencies are often limited to business matters, making it difficult to implement moral guidelines that would apply to the entire entertainment industry. "Until the entertainment business, which is an influential force on society, gets together and cuts all ties with organized crime, celebrities will probably continue to be taken advantage of by gangs and wind up suffering from the same problems again and again," a senior NPA official said.
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Postby Mulboyne » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:51 pm

Another weekly is reporting the end of "Tokudane!" now but also says Ogura has got the chop.
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Postby American Oyaji » Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:33 am

[quote="Coligny"]There is only 2 thing allowing JAV to survive,
-the illiteracy of porn seekers to find anything on th3 interwab.
-the 'no peener or poonany censorship laws which makes:
the production/review cost to import fureign pr0n legally

Now for export...

Paying for porn... yeah sure...
Paying for EXTREMLY BAD porn... yeah sure...
Paying for censored porn... yeah sure...

The market for jporn outside japan might be the smaller than the german sheiß]

All they need to do is go back and RE-release older films without the mosaic. I'm sure the originals exist somewhere.

That being said, a lot of the old stuff is faux insertion.
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Postby IparryU » Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:18 am

American Oyaji wrote:All they need to do is go back and RE-release older films without the mosaic. I'm sure the originals exist somewhere.

That being said, a lot of the old stuff is faux insertion.

that would be a good idea... for all them closet oyajis to get the re-released gold version of a pron the like would get them off for nights on...

but you gotta imagine how much of the pron industry is backed by the yaks...
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What a farce ...

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:52 am

Mulboyne wrote:Another weekly is reporting the end of "Tokudane!" now but also says Ogura has got the chop.


It's amazing that those comments would cause this level of controversy. Too bad people in Japan don't show the same amount of outrage when it comes to systemic corruption and ties to organized crime in government and industry.
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Postby matsuki » Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:24 am

American Oyaji wrote:All they need to do is go back and RE-release older films without the mosaic. I'm sure the originals exist somewhere.


I thought they released the non mosaic pr0n as an "overseas version" and sold it online to Japanese? (basically going around the law)
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Postby Coligny » Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:45 am

chokonen888 wrote:I thought they released the non mosaic pr0n as an "overseas version" and sold it online to Japanese? (basically going around the law)


Some are like this (the "I love My dildo" -excellent- serie for example) But I won't bet too much on compagnie being too carefull with the original masters...

Which bring me back to my usual fixation...

You think it would cost a lot to buy S1 production to re-release all Yua Aida's movie uncensored ?
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Postby American Oyaji » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:11 pm

chokonen888 wrote:I thought they released the non mosaic pr0n as an "overseas version" and sold it online to Japanese? (basically going around the law)


This is the case with some.

But they can't do it with the "limp dickers".

These are the ones I call faux penetration. Without mosaic, it's obvious he aint really hittin it and I can't understand how he can have a "limp dick" while rubbing up against a female.
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Postby Coligny » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:27 pm

American Oyaji wrote:This is the case with some.

But they can't do it with the "limp dickers".

These are the ones I call faux penetration. Without mosaic, it's obvious he aint really hittin it and



With a bit more hinsight they could release them as softcore (but they would hae to put a storyline).

I can't understand how he can have a "limp dick" while rubbing up against a female.


After 4 hours and no lunch break... it's usually common (just saying)...

I wonder more aboot those who can get a boner in front of a whole filming crew in desperate locations... (unless it's with Yua Aida)
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Postby Mulboyne » Fri Sep 02, 2011 8:49 pm

[quote="M Bison"]an industry source tells me]

That's certainly the general suspicion. Quite a few entertainers are now hoping that more revelations will come out. As its stands, the kind of links Shimada had admitted are not uncommon among other top stars. If that's the standard for retiring, or being denied work, then more will suffer his fate. If Shimada looks dirtier, however, these same stars can hope that their own brushes with the mob will look milder and more forgiveable by comparison.
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Postby Takechanpoo » Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:49 pm

Mulboyne wrote:That's certainly the general suspicion. Quite a few entertainers are now hoping that more revelations will come out. As its stands, the kind of links Shimada had admitted are not uncommon among other top stars. If that's the standard for retiring, or being denied work, then more will suffer his fate. If Shimada looks dirtier, however, these same stars can hope that their own brushes with the mob will look milder and more forgiveable by comparison.

Now Sakuradamon(J-National Police Agency) is carrying out the operation of destroying Yamaguchi-gumi's top positions.
Sakuradamon's real aim is to arrest Hashimoto Hirofumi(Z-Korean), the no.4 which is Shimada's ketsumochi. They hit Shimada in the process of investigating Hashimoto's home.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Sat Sep 03, 2011 7:32 pm

Why does Japanese fighting involve lots of pushing and rolling Rs?
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Postby matsuki » Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:54 pm

Coligny wrote:With a bit more hinsight they could release them as softcore (but they would hae to put a storyline).


You mean kidnapping schoolgirls and raping them isn't a storyline? How about the latest one I saw...it was something like "missed the last train and drunk girls." :drool5:

M Bison wrote:an industry source tells me]

This is what I was thinking too...but dude won't be able to escape the media frenzy when whatever it is comes out, even after resigning.

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Why does Japanese fighting involve lots of pushing and rolling Rs?


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Postby Kanchou » Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:48 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:Why does Japanese fighting involve lots of pushing and rolling Rs?


Because they don't have guns.
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Postby Coligny » Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:59 pm

chokonen888 wrote:You mean kidnapping schoolgirls and raping them isn't a storyline? How about the latest one I saw...it was something like "missed the last train and drunk girls." :drool5:



This is what I was thinking too...but dude won't be able to escape the media frenzy when whatever it is comes out, even after resigning.



Arriba! Arrrrrrrrrrrrriba! Burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrito!! :D


corrrrrrrrnnnn hoooolioooo....

Seriously... just thinking nao... why so much aaaarrrrrrhhhh when pretending to be touhg guys and so little when speaking english ?
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Postby BigInJapan » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:51 pm

Wife told me today that she saw a sports rag with a headline saying Shinsuke had been arrested.
I looked around and found this:

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Those sports and gossip rags (is there a difference?) will do anything to try to get people to buy their paper.
Print a mammoth headline that says "SHINSUKE ARREST", with "possibility" 1/3 the size below...
Above newspaper graphic here (Japanese article)
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Postby Kanchou » Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:06 pm

I noticed the KANOUSEI before I saw the English captions...I lol'ed.
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