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Postby Coligny » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:36 pm

Their new mks5 bluetooth seems interesting... fast bg-rad measure (10s)...

http://www.ecotest.ua/terra_new/index.php?page=02&lang=en
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Postby Coligny » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:37 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Just wait though...the government will start trying to brush aside the readings as mistakes by amateurs with poorly made foreign measuring devices.

Remindz me sumbody...
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Postby Yokohammer » Wed Aug 10, 2011 1:57 pm

Coligny wrote:Their new mks5 bluetooth seems interesting... fast bg-rad measure (10s)...

That does look like a nice bit of kit. Much more comprehensive display than the TERRA-P+ (but quite a bit more expensive too ... like JPY 119,700 on the river).
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Postby waruta » Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:20 am

SafeCast seems to be quite smitten with their choice of detector, the Inspector Alert or the RadAlert.

Prices seem not too bad also, but I'm trying to get SafeCast to send us a few mobile and static probes for installment up in Sendai and Ebisu Circuit...
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PET bottles become radiation detectors in Japan

Postby Russell » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:50 pm

[SIZE="4"](Reuters) - To meet growing demand for radiation detectors after Japan's March earthquake and tsunami, which set off the world's worst nuclear accident in 25 years, a Japanese researcher has come up with devices made from recycled PET bottles -- inexpensively.[/SIZE]

The detectors devised by Hidehito Nakamura, an assistant professor at Kyoto University in western Japan, in cooperation with Teijin Ltd, cut costs by 90 percent from existing devices, many of which come from foreign firms.

"We're aiming to have a final product by the end of September, given the ever-increasing demand following the March earthquake," said Toru Ishii, a sales executive at Teijin.

Nakamura came up with "Scintirex," a plastic resin that emits a fluorescent glow when exposed to radiation. The resin acts as a sensor within the radiation detectors, allowing measurements of radiation.

The new material is expected to drastically cut costs for high-demand personal radiation detectors and larger survey meters to be used for commercial or official purposes.

Teijin's PR department estimates that sensors for detection devices will become available to high priority government organizations and companies as early as next month at approximately 10,000 yen ($130) -- one-tenth of the cost of currently available materials.

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Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:31 pm

Russell wrote:...
Teijin's PR department estimates that sensors for detection devices will become available to high priority government organizations and companies as early as next month at approximately 10,000 yen ($130) -- one-tenth of the cost of currently available materials.
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Meh, the idea is to provide sensors for detection devices used the shitheads/liars in "high priority government organizations and companies", I doubt the ordinary public will see cheaper detectors for several years if ever (since T.I.J.).:confused:
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Postby Coligny » Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:55 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:Meh, the idea is to provide sensors for detection devices used the shitheads/liars in "high priority government organizations and companies", I doubt the ordinary public will see cheaper detectors for several years if ever (since T.I.J.).:confused:

Because we can all safely trust japanese made geiger counters...

Might as well slap this

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on an old TV remote and sell it as geiger counter...
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Postby Yokohammer » Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:57 pm

Russell wrote:... Nakamura came up with "Scintirex," a plastic resin that emits a fluorescent glow when exposed to radiation.

Sounds like a scintillation type detector (and thus the "Scintirex" name). Not as accurate as detectors that use Geiger-Mü]unless[/U] they're built with with a precision scintillating element and photomultiplier tube (expensive device and complex electronics) to accurately measure the light output from the scintillator. Probably won't get much accuracy in a 10K yen widget.

Nonetheless, if the thing can provide approximate readings* it could be very useful for the average Taro and Hanako to keep track of radiation in the environment. Sounds good.

* Sorta like 1) Relax, 2) Start packing, 3) Pack faster, and 4) Drop everything and get the fuck out of there.
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Hay Radiation Confirmed

Postby Yokohammer » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:44 pm

Still running around doing the O-Bon relative visitations and haka-mairi.

Today we went over to Kakuda, only about 20 minutes drive from where I live, to visit a relative who is a small-scale cattle farmer, so I did a few quick measurements around the place.

1m over the gravel in his parking lot the radiation level was about 0.33 µSv/h. That's a bit higher than where I live, which figures because Kakuda is closer to Fukushima, but still not alarming

But at a distance of about 1m from a pile of hay bales used as part of the cattle feed the reading was 1.9 ~ 2.0 µSv/h. Not good.

The hay is contaminated, as expected. He hasn't used that hay as feed since the problem came to light, and cattle shipments from Miyagi have been halted so in theory the problem has been nipped in the bud. But there is still a problem.
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Postby tidbits » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:51 pm

http://www.radiation-watch.org/p/blog-page.html

Pocket Geiger kit for iPhone iOS4.0, iPad2/ iTouch(2nd generation)

My apologies if this has been posted else where.
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Postby waruta » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:46 am

tidbits wrote:http://www.radiation-watch.org/p/blog-page.html

Pocket Geiger kit for iPhone iOS4.0, iPad2/ iTouch(2nd generation)

My apologies if this has been posted else where.
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That's not a bad looking piece of kit. Wonder about the sensitivity and subsequently the reliability of the device against more expensive equipment.

Too bad I don't own an iPhone to test it out on...
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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:50 am

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That's not a bad looking piece of kit. Wonder about the sensitivity and subsequently the reliability of the device against more expensive equipment...


The non-profit, radiation-watch.org, had their Frisk device tested by an independent service, but sadly there is no comparison to other types of equipment.

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Postby Yokohammer » Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:51 pm

I really like this little pocket geiger counter thingy (and it's cheap, too). Stick the detector and front-end electronics in a Frisk box or similar, and plug it into your iPod or iPhone for the UI and processing. Very cool. Looking at the test results it seems that it isn't super accurate under all conditions, but consistently close is plenty good enough for people who just want know if the radiation levels they're measuring are safe or not.

The day when you can pop down to the convenience store and pick up a usable radiation detector may not be too far off. That'll be nice. It'll put an end to bullshit figures from nuke plant operators and the government.
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Postby Coligny » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:05 am

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Postby Yokohammer » Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:23 pm

This is getting interestinger and interestinger (English usage nazis need not respond).

The democratization of radiation monitoring is spreading.

One noontime news program today was introducing a number of rice farmers who have purchased their own lab-grade geiger counters to test their produce. More of a double-check, because they don't trust the government (gee, wonder why not), and want to do everything they can to assure the consumer that their produce is safe to eat.

One store has installed two expensive chamber-type radiation detectors to check food samples. They installed two devices from different manufacturers at a cost of about 4 million yen so they can crosscheck the results to be sure that the food is safe.

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Postby Coligny » Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:36 pm

bu... bu... but... I thoughted swimming in the cooling pool of a nukular reactor was safer than looking at a pichure of a marbul countertop !!!???

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Scosche's RDTX-PRO 25,301yen vs Pocket Geiger kit 4,250yen

Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:57 am

tidbits wrote:http://www.radiation-watch.org/p/blog-page.html
Pocket Geiger kit for iPhone iOS4.0, iPad2/ iTouch(2nd generation)
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Scosche's RDTX-PRO for iPhone and iPod touch detects radiation
TUAW.com | Aug 31st 2011 at 11:00AM
Scosche Industries produces a wide line of accessories for Apple products, ranging from iPad cases and flexible keyboards to screen cleaners and headphones. Now the company has developed and is selling the RDTX-PRO Radiation Detector and app for the iPhone and iPod touch.
Primarily designed for those who are affected by radiation from the disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station in Japan, the US$329.99 device will be sold at Synexx in Tokyo beginning in September.
The RDTX-PRO can either be plugged into an iPhone or iPod touch via the dock connector or used as a standalone radiation alarm. When being used as a standalone alarm, the device runs on a single AA battery for up to 96 hours...more....
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Scosche's RDTX-PRO 25,301yen vs Pocket Geiger kit 4,250yen

Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:57 am

tidbits wrote:http://www.radiation-watch.org/p/blog-page.html
Pocket Geiger kit for iPhone iOS4.0, iPad2/ iTouch(2nd generation)
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Scosche's RDTX-PRO for iPhone and iPod touch detects radiation
TUAW.com | Aug 31st 2011 at 11:00AM
Scosche Industries produces a wide line of accessories for Apple products, ranging from iPad cases and flexible keyboards to screen cleaners and headphones. Now the company has developed and is selling the RDTX-PRO Radiation Detector and app for the iPhone and iPod touch.
Primarily designed for those who are affected by radiation from the disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station in Japan, the US$329.99 device will be sold at Synexx in Tokyo beginning in September.
The RDTX-PRO can either be plugged into an iPhone or iPod touch via the dock connector or used as a standalone radiation alarm. When being used as a standalone alarm, the device runs on a single AA battery for up to 96 hours...more....
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Postby MrUltimateGaijin » Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:57 am

Android version dokofuckingdesuka?
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Postby IparryU » Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:20 pm

MrUltimateGaijin wrote:Android version dokofuckingdesuka?

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Postby Coligny » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:52 pm

originally posted in th3 wrong thread... sorry:
Rakuten page on geiger counters:
http://item.rakuten.co.jp/auc-taiyou...kgs_110901_078

the watch is quite cool...
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Postby Yokohammer » Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:47 am

I'm wondering when Casio will get around to building a Geiger counter into a watch.

Only half kidding, too.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:35 pm

[floatr]Image[/floatr]Fukushima-produced low-cost Geiger counters hit the market
Mainichi News -- 2011nov07
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A local manufacturer here has developed a new low-cost and high-performance Geiger counter to meet residents increasing concerns over radiation leaking from the crippled Fukushima No.1 nuclear power plant.
"Geiger Fukushima," manufactured by Sanwa Corporation in Otama, Fukushima, will cost 18,800 yen -- a bargain price for the usually very expensive, and recently not easily available, radiation measuring instruments.The new device will run on two AAA batteries and will be able to measure radiation over a range between 0.04 to approximately 440 microsieverts per hour. Based on the measured data, it will also be able to estimate the approximate amount of radiation a person will be exposed to in one year.In addition to "Geiger Fukushima," the company has also manufactured an additional model that is to be specifically used on iPhones in combination with the radiation-measuring application "Geiger Bot." That model will cost 9,800 yen...
...The two new Geiger counter models will be sold online by the authorized non-profit organization "Eigyoshientai," which is currently accepting advanced orders. For more information see http://eigyoshientai.shop-pro.jp/

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Postby Kanchou » Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:43 pm

Yokohammer wrote:I'm wondering when Casio will get around to building a Geiger counter into a watch.

Only half kidding, too.


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Postby Coligny » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:49 pm

Little heads Up to say that Gamma Scout GM counters are back in stock.

Unlike the Ukrainian Terra Products they are able to measure all 3 Alpha Beta and Gamma Radiation.

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Postby Yokohammer » Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:52 pm

Coligny wrote:Will post a follow up when Fedex drops mine...

Looks good!

Looking forward to some initial tests and your impressions.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:42 pm

(giga-goofy Google Translate) Radiation-watch.org Press Release

Sensor "Pokega Type2" the world's first radiation measurement accessory for the the iPhone that does not need batteries, is coming soon! We will release it 11 February 2012, for 5,250 yen (including tax). Radiation-watch.org is an open and non-profit project to develop cheap and smart survey meters (radiation detectors).

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Radiation-watch.org project created the "Pokega Type2" radiation sensor to be the world's first and smallest size one that does not need batteries.
In "Pokega Type2", that to feed through (region inaudible), without built-in battery in the body of the speech signal, we have succeeded in ensuring a stable power needed to detect radiation from the body smartphone was (patent pending). As a radiation sensor connection-oriented smartphone is designed to achieve the compactness of (base volume) minimum size by this world.

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Pokega current KIT (Type1), whereas the method was to assemble at home kit, new Type2 Pokega has become a finished product with a special case, can be used simply by plugging in to the smartphone. Radiation detection circuit "Pokega" series should be noted, and also has received (No. 3320408 ) National Weighing third-party certification authority by the Netherlands (Dutch Metrology Institute), is widely used by more than 10,000 users already, trust has been obtained.
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Postby Coligny » Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:01 pm

Geiger counter myth debunked.

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