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Another case of Japanese uniqueness....brains?

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Another case of Japanese uniqueness....brains?

Postby matsuki » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:29 am

So yesterday I was taking (stealing) some thermographic pictures of some of the products I import. (A friend of mine volunteers at the Miraikan in Odaiba and let me on to the fact they have a really nice thermograhic camera/display there) Anyhow, I was looking around while I was waiting for the camera to free up...they had this display about brains and whatnot and then I came across this gem.

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I wonder if the Koreans go this far....

I pointed it out to my friend who laughed it off but I asked a few of the staff there and got explanations that ranged from "Japanese brains are unique" to "Japanese are smaller than gaijin.":nihonjin:
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Postby IparryU » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:44 am

chokonen888 wrote:I pointed it out to my friend who laughed it off but I asked a few of the staff there and got explanations that ranged from "Japanese brains are antiques" to "Japanese are smaller than gaijin.":nihonjin:

FTFY

but the second comment is logical and (actually) makes sense.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:19 pm

I know I've ready several things that say that on average east Asians have larger brains that other ethnic/racial groups. However, I don' think the difference is big enough to change that brain to body wieght ratio.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:28 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Image
... I asked a few of the staff there and got explanations that ranged from "Japanese brains are unique" to "Japanese are smaller than gaijin."


Hmmm, Japanese with their stumpy legs and runty height as well as much lower level of obesity ought to score better brain-to body ratio (1:38) than Westerners especially Americans. However, the first few studies I grabbed off the Net seems to show Japanese with a mostly the same brain-to body ratio (statically insignificant).:?



Simple brain-to body ratio (E:S) Wikipedia
human 1:40

http://books.google.com
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Postby IparryU » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:04 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:Hmmm, Japanese with their stumpy legs and runty height as well as much lower level of obesity ought to score better brain-to body ratio (1:38) than Westerners especially Americans. However, the first few studies I grabbed off the Net seems to show Japanese with a mostly the same brain-to body ratio (statically insignificant).:?



Simple brain-to body ratio (E:S) Wikipedia
human 1:40

http://books.google.com
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so japanese ppls brains got lighter compared to '88? that makes sense... looks like someone needs to go post this up by the chart in post #1?
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Postby matsuki » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:15 pm

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Postby Iraira » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:27 pm

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Postby matsuki » Mon Oct 03, 2011 1:39 pm

Iraira wrote:I'm just gonna play debiru's advocate here and say two things
1) Maybe they only had data on Japanese victims...I mean subjects.
2) Maybe they figure that only Japanese will see this exhibit....even though there is accompanying English on the poster.


Even if those points were true, had you seen this exhibit in almost any other country, do you think they would have the nationality in parenthesis? Korea maybe, China possibly, but I would expect to see just "human." (and it's not like data for other countries isn't readily available....BTW, the whole place had better than usual Engrish on all the exhibits so I suspect the extra effort there means they are attempting to attract FG as well)
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Postby Ganma » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:05 pm

I think you'll find many mono-cultural (or close to) societies have this idea of their 'uniqueness'. My father is German and when I was growing up it was always 'German this' and 'German that'.
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Postby Pixe » Mon Oct 03, 2011 3:26 pm

It's just they only had data on Japanese
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Postby matsuki » Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:37 pm

Ganma wrote:I think you'll find many mono-cultural (or close to) societies have this idea of their 'uniqueness'. My father is German and when I was growing up it was always 'German this' and 'German that'.


Can you find a similar display in Germany? (srs)

Pixe wrote:It's just they only had data on Japanese


If they had a PC or even a cell phone they did...

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Postby 6810 » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:29 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Even if those points were true, had you seen this exhibit in almost any other country, do you think they would have the nationality in parenthesis? Korea maybe, China possibly, but I would expect to see just "human." (and it's not like data for other countries isn't readily available....BTW, the whole place had better than usual Engrish on all the exhibits so I suspect the extra effort there means they are attempting to attract FG as well)


But you see, there you have it.

The "you're Take-bitch fuck you sideways" crew will have at me for disagreeing but...

(a) This is Japan. Chances are, Japanese people are interested in themselves, since they live here and will likely be 95%+ of the visitors to this.

(b) What's wrong with uniqueness anyway. Claims about "any other country" are just as bogus. After all, according to your defining category, all differences must be elided. Thus you have people of different ethnicities etc being subsumed into what is most likely a form of Anglo-global logic.

(c) This too was covered - perhaps the data was from the Japanese population. If this is so, then how/why should the data be extrapolated to fit the entire world? After all, wouldn't that too be a form of uniqueness (methodologically speaking, that is).

(d) Who gives a fuck if fat ass post colonial fuckers with no sense of restraint? Bitches done gone eat too much and fuck up the curve, making non-Japanese brain sizes smaller. Ahh, opulence... ahh affluence
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Oct 03, 2011 6:01 pm

chokonen888 wrote:do you think they would have the nationality in parenthesis? Korea maybe


If it were a chart in Korea, it would show that Koreans have the largest brains as compared to the rest of the human race.
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Postby damn name » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:13 pm

You're spot on, 6810.

In any other country, I don't think people would be saying things like in this thread.

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Postby Coligny » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:09 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Even if those points were true, had you seen this exhibit in almost any other country, do you think they would have the nationality in parenthesis? Korea maybe, China possibly, but I would expect to see just "human."


Actually yes...

France...

1942...

All those anti jews exhibitions...

But then phrenology was declared a pseudo science...
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Postby Coligny » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:17 pm

6810 wrote:The "you're Take-bitch fuck you sideways" crew will have at me for disagreeing but...


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Postby Ganma » Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:48 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Can you find a similar display in Germany? (srs)

My dad is WWII generation. I'm sure you can figure out the rest. :twisted:
These days it's a different story. Nazism aside Germany is a whole lot more 'multicultural' than when my dad left in 1959.
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Postby matsuki » Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:27 am

6810 wrote:(a) This is Japan. Chances are, Japanese people are interested in themselves, since they live here and will likely be 95%+ of the visitors to this.


Interest in themselves regarding something that is actually unique, no problem. Making an unnecessary case for uniqueness is just silly.

6810 wrote:(b) What's wrong with uniqueness anyway. Claims about "any other country" are just as bogus. After all, according to your defining category, all differences must be elided. Thus you have people of different ethnicities etc being subsumed into what is most likely a form of Anglo-global logic.


Because countries/nationalities aren't unique "races." Even if they were making a case that environment and diet differs so greatly from country to country, why only Japan? Why get specific with the human data when the animals don't have (Belgian Hare) or (Red Eyed Tree Frog) anywhere. (Specifics that are much more likely to yield more variation)

Anglo-global logic wha? It would be idiotic of any country that did the same. This is just another case of "We Japanese" mentality or maybe reaching to satisfy their fixation on uniqueness.

6810 wrote:(c) This too was covered - perhaps the data was from the Japanese population. If this is so, then how/why should the data be extrapolated to fit the entire world? After all, wouldn't that too be a form of uniqueness (methodologically speaking, that is).


Do you see any data study quoted? Nope...who knows where it was pulled from. The fact is, 15 sec. on google will yield you plenty of data that gets into specifics.

6810 wrote:(d) Who gives a fuck if fat ass post colonial fuckers with no sense of restraint? Bitches done gone eat too much and fuck up the curve, making non-Japanese brain sizes smaller. Ahh, opulence... ahh affluence


This makes me question your brain/weight ratio...

Coligny wrote:Actually yes...

France...

1942...

All those anti jews exhibitions...

But then phrenology was declared a pseudo science...


Ganma wrote:My dad is WWII generation. I'm sure you can figure out the rest. :twisted:
These days it's a different story. Nazism aside Germany is a whole lot more 'multicultural' than when my dad left in 1959.


Yep yep, neither one of those countries could get away with a display like this in present time though.
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Postby Coligny » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:35 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
Yep yep, neither one of those countries could get away with a display like this in present time though.

Even back then... it was quite unsubtletly politically 'biased'/loaded...

I don't think was ever considered like your average science fair...
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Postby matsuki » Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:53 pm

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