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Tokyo Police Assault Eight-Year-Old Halfu?

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Postby Yokohammer » Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:59 pm

nikoneko wrote:Here is the link: http://www.aandf.co.jp/knife/index.html
Which is just a copy of this: http://www.jkg.jp/law.htm

Someone with better translation skills than me will have to help out though, my wife helped me figure out the harder parts.

Really the whole thing needs to be read but here are a couple of relevant parts:

Excellent. That answers most of my questions.

Couldn't be arsed translating the whole thing, so I'll leave that to someone with the necessary will and free time.

But basically, taking a knife you've just bought home or to the shop for repair is considered a legitimate reason for carrying. Transporting a fishing or survival knife to and from the fishing or hiking grounds is OK too. A cook can carry his own knife to and from his restaurant. Of course there are other valid reasons along the same lines, but in all cases the knife must be well packed and protected during transport.

Sounds fair enough, unless you get some a-hole cop who decides to push his powers of discretion to the limit.
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Postby nikoneko » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:04 pm

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Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:02 pm

Yokohammer wrote:So, if I'm carrying a 10cm diving knife around Akihabara, it's OK as long as I'm also wearing flippers and goggles ... :mrgreen:
Yep.
I have had couple of friendly conversations with the cops on the Shonan beach patrol about this. A diving knife is perfectly ok when carried with my diving gear AND perfectly ILLEGAL in my briefcase downtown Tokyo.

Likewise, my 8-inch Gerber Rescue Knife is very illegal (even though it has a flat screwdriver tip) except when it's in my car's first-aid kit along with my Red Cross EMT card.
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Postby nikoneko » Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:27 pm

My wife is asleep and wouldn't get the knife subtleties enough to answer well anyway probably, but on the second part I quoted are we allowed to have a machete in the woods as long as it is registered? Actual serious question, I've seen them for sale here and wondered. Sorry, legalese in Japanese crosses my brain-full line.

And another serious question what about axes/hatchets? Anybody heard anything about those being restricted?

(No machete and wood jokes Coligny! :P)

Edit: Also apologies for contributing to the threadjack might be a nice idea to split it as knife laws are such a big issue here.
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Postby bichiguso » Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:47 am

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Postby Coligny » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:25 am

bichiguso wrote:The only reason I'm doing this is because I'm currently in the midst of a never-ending J>E translation project anyway, and frankly, am sick of writing about France right now. Bring on the knives!!
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/ok, maybee not...
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Postby bichiguso » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:33 am

Aaaand part 2:

Sword classifications

According to the Firearms and Swords Control Law, one may not own, possess or carry a sword without a license. Anyone caught carrying a sword without a license may be subject to up to 3 years in prison or up to 300,000yen in fines. (no. 13 article 4)

Under the Firearms and Swords Control Law, the following are classified as swords (note that there are no regulations for custom, [cooking] and cutter knives for home use, not corresponding with the list below, but if caught carrying them outside of the home, it will be a minor offense and punished accordingly):

1. any Japanese sword exceeding 15cm in length
2. any [Western] knife/sword exceeding 5.5cm in length [including daggers]
3. spears exceeding 15cm
4. naginata [pole sword? partisan?] exceeding 15cm
5. daggers [including short blades; all are subject to regulation]
6. any knife that automatically opens to more than a 45-degree angle [switchblades] (some exemptions apply)

Requirements for Sword Classification

1. it has the ability to wound and/or kill a person or animal
2. it's shaped like a sword
3. it's made of steel [including stainless steel and steel alloy]

While not specified in Firearms and Sword Control Law, the Japan Knife Guild may classify miniature katana and small swords as swords.

While model/imitation swords/katana/knives may look like [genuine] swords,
- they cannot be called knives with a 'practical use'
- they exist to preserve the ancient Japanese technique/style/traditions
- their manufacturing has been culturally sanctioned
- under Firearms and Swords Control Law, the manufacturing of swords is only sanctioned as traditional works of art, and not for actual use

Under new revisions of the Firearms and Swords Control Law, carrying daggers with blades exceeding 5.5cm is prohibited. Double-edged blades are also considered 'swords'.

All knives currently possessed must be disposed of by 7/5/2009. For more information see the official Police Department homepage.
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Postby bichiguso » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:34 am

Coligny wrote:YOU ARE SOOO GOING TO MAH IGNORE LIST !!!

/ok, maybee not...


HA! No offense, my friend, I'm a native English speaker and the writer put in lots of katakana French in the book, which is just making my brain explode [as well as my google search engine!].
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Postby Coligny » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:57 am

Happy to see they completely missed the boat on ceramic or other carbon fiber blades... they don't trigger metal detector AND are legal... that's some fine lawmaking here... Even without this, i wonder what kind of brainfart trigger the writing of these kind of laws... "let's ban pointy things, yeaaahhhh" "and tomorrow let's ban water that can drown people and altitude that can hurt if you fall from a plenty... "
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Postby jim katta » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:59 pm

Non-Japanese have no rights in Japan. Period. Full stop.
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Postby jim katta » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:59 pm

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Postby matsuki » Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:12 pm

Uh d00d, if the kid really got punched and there is video, virtually nobody will take the cops side. Non issue, we would all love to see the video.

As for the guy following the cops and taking pictures of them, his explanation sounds nothing more like he was annoying the cops without any real reason and didnt back down when they asked him to leave. Something that is not smart in any country, regardless of nationality.
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Postby GomiGirl » Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:40 pm

jim katta wrote:Non-Japanese have no rights in Japan. Period. Full stop.


OMG - long time no see!! How you been? :cool:
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Postby TennoChinko » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:28 pm

jim katta wrote:Non-Japanese have no rights in Japan. Period. Full stop.


The kid's mother is Japanese, so you'd assume he'd have Japanese citizenship. I wonder where the (Japanese) mother is on all of this?

My guess is that she's distanced herself from her crazy spastic husband (Todd Macdonald).
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