Disaster Preparedness FG Style

[Coligny]

We have three separate wells two of which are for the organic rice.


I don't think Japan will have another fuckyoushima. In typical J-government style it is either "we don't give a fuck" or "hang the fucker for even thinking about it". Usually something bad happens for them to change stance. I have a feeling that the few remaining nuke plants will be shut down very soon.

I sort of don't have the same feeling that you do...

http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/business/news/20120208p2g00m0bu116000c.html

The timing is really too bad to exit nukular power overnight. The germans claim to do this... But infact they just buy nukular power from France instead... politicians will always be politicians...

As dangerous as it can be... if unlike Tepco you avoid putting too much idiots in charge, nukular power can work...

[Samurai_Jerk]

I'm not too concerned about emergency rations. I could survive off of body fat for about 6 months.

[waruta]

I'm not too concerned about emergency rations. I could survive off of body fat for about 6 months.

I believe I'm in the same boat as you. 2 people could survive off my body fat for 6 months. That is, if you like Wagyu.

[Coligny]

Put me into the club...

Fuckin cheezeburgers...

[Mike Oxlong]

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[nikoneko]

I actually read something about that. Like it's best to be in between, not obese but not like a marathon runner or muscle man either. Too little body fat even with tons of muscle is bad and too much is too, other than the obvious reasons there were metabolic reasons but I down remember the exact breakdown.

[sirwanksalot]

Yep, got me a folding shovel in the car too.
But it's more for digging drainage ditches around the tent.
Or toilets.*

But yeah, it could also be useful for getting the car out of mud or whatever.
Or just general rubble removal.

[SIZE="1"]* No, not for digging drainage dishes around toilets, dummy, for digging toilets![/SIZE]

I three have a shovel in the car. I keep it around to bury dead hooker parts.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I actually read something about that. Like it's best to be in between, not obese but not like a marathon runner or muscle man either. Too little body fat even with tons of muscle is bad and too much is too, other than the obvious reasons there were metabolic reasons but I down remember the exact breakdown.

Are you talking about health in general or survival situations?

[fred]

You don't want to be too fat, you'll just look like a potential food source for the unprepared survivors.

[Greji]

I keep it around to bury dead hooker parts.

I can I have 'em?

[nikoneko]

Are you talking about health in general or survival situations?

Health in general. Sorry was super tired when I posted that. The only thing I know about fat really as far as survival goes is that if you eat too few calories a day your body will begin to save fat which is why starvation diets never work. So I suppose from that it would be good to have a beer gut and such to sustain yourself as you say, though being out of shape would not be good either if you need to move quickly etc.

[twww]

Anyone watch this?

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There's being prepared, and I'm all for it, then there's bat shit crazy.

[Coligny]

You don't want to be too fat, you'll just look like a potential food source for the unprepared survivors.

That's also why I don't want to look to smart... I ain't not going no zombie snack...

[Coligny]

I can I have 'em?

Crap... 20 minutes too late...

[nikoneko]

There's being prepared, and I'm all for it, then there's bat shit crazy.

I haven't seen it but I've heard about it. On the bushcraft forum I use we get cross-over with those guys. They call them SHTF* or TEOTWAWKI* guys and some old time outdoorsmen get really pissed about it. The mods there allow it when it comes to talking about hurricane preparedness etc, but it's even caused some members to leave. I'd say 90% of the preppers are very normal but others are just like waiting for something to happen and seem to almost want to make it by carrying 3 guns everywhere they go and such.

*sh-t hits the fan
*the end of the world as we know it

[cstaylor]

...why starvation diets never work.

They work if you wait long enough.

[Mike Oxlong]

Health in general. Sorry was super tired when I posted that. The only thing I know about fat really as far as survival goes is that if you eat too few calories a day your body will begin to save fat which is why starvation diets never work. So I suppose from that it would be good to have a beer gut and such to sustain yourself as you say, though being out of shape would not be good either if you need to move quickly etc.

Do you subscribe to the conventional wisdom that when we eat too much, we get fat? Now you tell me that when we eat too little, we get fat? This is getting confusing...

[nikoneko]

Do you subscribe to the conventional wisdom that when we eat too much, we get fat? Now you tell me that when we eat too little, we get fat? This is getting confusing...

Why Eating Too Few Calories Doesn't Work
Since the formula for weight loss is to burn more calories than you consume, many people erroneously assume that a dramatic cutback in caloric intake will result in rapid weight loss. In fact, when you suddenly drop your caloric intake, your metabolism responds by slowing down, putting your body into starvation mode --- where every calorie possible is conserved. When engaging in a "starvation diet," your metabolism will actually slow down your bodily processes to conserve calories, MayoClinic.com explains, likely resulting in no weight loss, or possibly even weight gain.

From here: http://www.livestrong.com/article/485503-will-eating-too-few-calories-make-you-gain-weight/#ixzz1ly86Is28

I read up on metabolism a bit when I was running a lot. It's basically calories expended vs. calories taken in. But it gets more complex as the liver is what regulates fat in the body and it processes different foods differently. Don't remember it all..

[Mike Oxlong]

I personally don't think that people gain weight on so-called starvation diets. They initially lose a bit, but then their metabolism slows as you quote. Progress toward the weight loss goal stalls. In the meantime, hunger increases as they've drastically cut back on the amount they are accustomed to eating, and they generally avoid the types of foods that are satiating. They then go off their diet, and go on a binge due to a combination of hunger and "comfort eating". Now off their diet and eating as bad or worse than before, with a metabolism that has slowed, they gain back what they lost, and often more.

[nikoneko]

Yes your right, I think they don't mean you will gain weight, just not lose weight/fat on one of the diets or at least slower than you would on a healthy diet. And then rebound of course when they can't take it anymore as you say.

Edit: To be on topic too, it's probably why can live 3 weeks without food. The body stores fat as long as it can and slowly survives off it. There's a rule of 3 about this too:

3 minutes without air
3 hours without shelter
3 days without water
3 weeks without food

[matsuki]

I'm no tubby bitch but I was developing a gut so decided to try the Atkins diet...basically makes caloric intake less of a concern to carbohydrate intake. I'm 4 weeks in and the ab mochi is almost gone.

Previously I had tried reducing calories consumed but never really saw a change either way....reduced carb intake and holy shit this works fast! (it doesn't hurt to be active with it as well)

[Mike Oxlong]

I'm no tubby bitch but I was developing a gut so decided to try the Atkins diet...basically makes caloric intake less of a concern to carbohydrate intake. I'm 4 weeks in and the ab mochi is almost gone.

Previously I had tried reducing calories consumed but never really saw a change either way....reduced carb intake and holy shit this works fast! (it doesn't hurt to be active with it as well)

I've posted several times about low carb eating. Works great for me, and several friends, but generally gets a poor reception in conversation - whether here or in person.

[nikoneko]

Just call it a paleo diet then you'll be all trendy and people will listen lol.

[Mike Oxlong]

Just call it a paleo diet then you'll be all trendy and people will listen lol.

I do, for the most part. The various names and tweaks are all variations on the theme of low carb. Which Atkins "pioneered" back 30 or 40 years ago, which the diabetics (that lived) were already doing 50 years before that, which Banting in England was doing another 50 years previously, after his physician read about what the French had discovered even earlier...

[Coligny]

/Way too oldschool to do without...

[nikoneko]

What is that?

[Coligny]

I do, for the most part. The various names and tweaks are all variations on the theme of low carb. Which Atkins "pioneered" back 30 or 40 years ago, which the diabetics (that lived) were already doing 50 years before that, which Banting in England was doing another 50 years previously, after his physician read about what the French had discovered even earlier...

Yeah... we are thaaaat cool... want mah autograph ?

[Coligny]

What is that?

a carb dude...

[Mike Oxlong]

Yes, a carburetor indeed. Claude Bernard despised them.

[nikoneko]

a carb dude...

Oh haha. You really should come up with some good simple post about how mechanical things could be useful to people. Generators and such I guess? I imagine it's too wide ranging but I personally would love it, I can fix things but it's totally not my area.