Wind Power Could Blow Jobs Tohokufs Way

[Typhoon]

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What is even more ironic is that when the wind really blows, the windmills have to be stopped to prevent mechanical failure.

[Typhoon]

No the argument is also shit, wordly shit, but shit... the source is just the cherry on the cake.

Now, me and Darwin are perfectly fine with you being unconvinced. You excessively overestimate your importance if you think you are relevant enough to deserve to be convinced or not. One only thing I will ask is either to find arguments a little less insulting to people having a 2 digit+ IQ or stay in forums where the population share your low standards.

Still can't come up with a single rational objection,
only an ad hominem filled rant.

Which makes it clear that it's not my IQ that that you should be concerned about.

Now be a good little fif and frog off.

[Typhoon]

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[jingai]

What is even more ironic is that when the wind really blows, the windmills have to be stopped to prevent mechanical failure.

That's not really ironic. They aren't intended to work during massive gusts, rather for steady winds. Wind power isn't new. There are turbines around approaching 40 years old that have withstood many storms. The newer ones are more efficient and quieter. I was about 1/4 mile from a set of three (1 or 1.5MW a piece I believe) in a rural location and the sound was kind of like if a neighbor had an air conditioner on a few houses away.

I'm not sure where your hatred of a simple and elegant technology comes from. Do you think it's better to dig coal out of the ground, take it thousands of miles by train, put it in a massive pile, put the coal on a conveyor belt into a power plant, pulverize the coal into fine pieces, set the pieces on fire to boil water, lose 2/3 of the energy in the process as heat, and then get some electricity along with a plume of toxic smoke and ash full of heavy metals?

As far as I'm concerned, a wind farm is a much better neighbor. I can see the solar panels on the local middle school from my house and feel good that I helped my town get them.

[Ganma]

Wind Power Could Blow Jobs

I doubt even wind power could blow Jobs now.

[Coligny]

What is even more ironic is that when the wind really blows, the windmills have to be stopped to prevent mechanical failure.

No, what's iconic is that after a catastrophical failure they don't have to evacuate a 20km radius for centuries but instead can send a crane truck with 2 wrench monkeys to have the shit back up in a short period of time.

[Coligny]

Still can't come up with a single rational objection,
only an ad hominem filled rant.

Which makes it clear that it's not my IQ that that you should be concerned about.

Now be a good little fif and frog off.

Because there is no rationnal objection possible to complete lunacy that you are the only one delusionnal enough to consider as an argument.

Your speech is as demented as the now famous Oreilly "you can't explain that" tirade aboot magnets or other compltetely explained scientific phenomenoms (unless you are a short sighted creationnist).

Great Non sequitur, now ad-hominem... There is some truth in the saying the you should not speak to morons because it educates them. (not saying you are a moron, just a lunatic)

[dimwit]

Personally, I can't see any objection to using wind power in Tohoku, especially in the area around Fukushima. You aren't going to be able to use the land for anything else for a very long time, so you might as well get some use out of it. In addition several of the objections to wind power do not apply here; noise pollution -no one lives on the shore anymore, destruction of scenic beauty -I think the debris mounds all over the coastline have taken care of that. From the experiences of the Ontario government, wind power is expensive and that tends to indicate to me that if there is large scale Japanese government involvement in the project it will be equally uneconomic.

[Typhoon]

Because there is no rationnal objection possible to complete lunacy that you are the only one delusionnal enough to consider as an argument.

Your speech is as demented as the now famous Oreilly "you can't explain that" tirade aboot magnets or other compltetely explained scientific phenomenoms (unless you are a short sighted creationnist).

Great Non sequitur, now ad-hominem... There is some truth in the saying the you should not speak to morons because it educates them. (not saying you are a moron, just a lunatic)

Not only do you have no clue, you have no clue that you have no clue.

[Typhoon]

[Coligny]

Not only do you have no clue, you have no clue that you have no clue.

Yeah... the old "unknown unknown" from Giulianni...

Coming from a guy who don't understand that wind is for peak demand and therefore can't have the same property nor can be judged with the same criterias as baseload powerplants that's a little bit bold but totally in line with your overall behaviour. "Lalala I'm a genius I don't understand why everybody is not taking my words for god's speech, they must be clueless"

[Typhoon]

Yeah... the old "unknown unknown" from Giulianni...

Coming from a guy who don't understand that wind is for peak demand and therefore can't have the same property nor can be judged with the same criterias as baseload powerplants that's a little bit bold but totally in line with your overall behaviour. "Lalala I'm a genius I don't understand why everybody is not taking my words for god's speech, they must be clueless"

Project much?

Unlike you, I reference my statements.

IEEE | Finding solutions to Achilles' heel of renewable energy: intermittency

Bloomberg | UK risks blackouts without a nuclear strategy

Spiegel | Rising Energy Prices Endanger German Industry - Merkel's switch to renewables

Solar + wind can't come close to meeting the energy need of Japan.

One of the reasons that Japan recently experienced a trade deficit is due to the cost of importing oil and gas to replace the loss of power from the mothballed nuclear power stations.

[Coligny]

Great, now you try to get your reference matching with your current position and maybe you can talk with the big boys.

You found an article aboot wind intermittency now, it's a progress from when you were stating it was polluting. Now search a little more and try to understand the difference between peak and load power production.

For the rest, sorry but I quit arguing with you, you are waaayyy to much convinced of your intellectual superiority and unsubtle to be able to debate with other humans.

you want a proof why you are subtle as a boulder. Backing anything with statement aboot the shortcoming in the UK and Germany without nuclear power don't prove jack shit against renewable energy. They put all their eggs in the nuclear basket, SO OF FUCKING COURSE if you remove that fucking basket without coming up with a viable plan B it's not going to be easy...

Solar and wind are not the plugin replacement for nuclear, they are an helper source. That don't make them irrelevant. Only in your own carefully crafted world specially designed to ignore any fooking element that might prove you wrong. No mater how big it is.

[Russell]

[Coligny]

let's sum it up:

We're getting trolled
heavy foot style...

WAKE UP SHEEPUL !!!!!

[IparryU]

wind turbines everywhere... gets a few houses jolted up...

solar panels everywhere... a good amount of the power is depleted when going from panel > cap > long copper wire to hub > another long copper wire to sub hub > end user... only efficient use is if they are on every home only powering that home. so factories and big corporations would need to be in a big field surrounded by nothing but solar panels and wind turbines... not going to happen unless in the middle of a desert or field. goodbye tokyo, NY, LA, HK, and other big ass cities with everything in one spot.

electric cars? so where is the power going to come from? oh ya... extra solar panels and wind turbines... don't forget the long copper wire.

nuke is the way to go... just get it done right and everything will be ok. no need to go "green" or other pansy Eco-friendly shit. stay off the gas, get it done with nukes and we are set...

(waiting for rant to start)