Depressed Mode: It's a Question of Trust

[2triky]

[gaijinpunch]

What I don't understand is why local charities did not organize people in close, but more spacious than Tokyo prefectures to "adopt" people to come and start their lives anew. I can't imagine EVERYONE wanted to rebuild their old life in the disaster zone.

[Mike Oxlong]

What I don't understand is why local charities did not organize people in close, but more spacious than Tokyo prefectures to "adopt" people to come and start their lives anew. I can't imagine EVERYONE wanted to rebuild their old life in the disaster zone.

Because that's far less lucrative than a push to force the rest of the country to accept debris and enrich big disposal companies and the politicians that suckle off their teats. It is the residents' civic and patriotic duty to help maintain the status quo of enriching industry and bureaucrats.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I'm sure the people who were directly affected have had their trust "shattered" but I don't see a big groundswell of discontent among Tokyo residents. Until people in Kanto and other regions start dropping dead of radiation sickness no one's going to give a fuck about government ineptitude. After all, tsunamis and earthquakes are shoganai. Don't forget that the government was also criticized for their slow response after the Kobe quake while the yaks were praised for being the first on the ground with aid. Apparently that didn't change a fucking thing.

[2triky]

I'm sure the people who were directly affected have had their trust "shattered" but I don't see a big groundswell of discontent among Tokyo residents. Until people in Kanto and other regions start dropping dead of radiation sickness no one's going to give a fuck about government ineptitude. After all, tsunamis and earthquakes are shoganai. Don't forget that the government was also criticized for their slow response after the Kobe quake while the yaks were praised for being the first on the ground with aid. Apparently that didn't change a fucking thing.

I agree. One year on I fail to see a paradigm shift in thinking on the part of most people. The great opportunity to use the disaster to catalyze a new framework of thought coupled with action is one that failed to materialize in to something substantive thus far. Having said that I do believe the level of mistrust has increased, but as you alluded to, it doesn't seemed to have changed the status quo.

[matsuki]

I'm sure the people who were directly affected have had their trust "shattered" but I don't see a big groundswell of discontent among Tokyo residents. Until people in Kanto and other regions start dropping dead of radiation sickness no one's going to give a fuck about government ineptitude. After all, tsunamis and earthquakes are shoganai. Don't forget that the government was also criticized for their slow response after the Kobe quake while the yaks were praised for being the first on the ground with aid. Apparently that didn't change a fucking thing.

Too many worker bees following the hive mind

[2triky]

Too many worker bees following the hive mind

Ware ware we don't give a f*ck. <shrug>

[matsuki]

Ware ware we don't give a f*ck. <shrug>

Yep.....until it directly affects them

[2triky]

Yep.....until it directly affects them

I fear that is true for most.

[Coligny]

I agree. One year on I fail to see a paradigm shift in thinking on the part of most people.

Like dividing by zero... you can't change the mind of people trained not to think... (bread and circus)

Taking decision trigger responsibilities... not the style here...

[2triky]

Like dividing by zero... you can't change the mind of people trained not to think... (bread and circus)

Taking decision trigger responsibilities... not the style here...

I understand that sentiment. Given the exceptional nature of the tragedy one might have thought it would have elicited an exceptional response. Wishful thinking apparently.

[IparryU]

Before the Kobe quake, the US had a quake and the Japanese were knocking on the shitty 'merican architecture and it is the reason why freeways were falling down, etc.

Then Kobe quake hit and low and behold... freeways (highways) fell right the fuck on over. What happened? Yaks come in and save the day whilst the govt. + other agencies sit on their ass and do the shoganai ritual...

3/11 comes along, this time with a nuclear plant additive and the shoganai ritual starts once again.

one year later... shit got cleaned up, trash is being sent around the place, and they are trying to figure out if left foot is supposed to move or is right foot... what foot was the last one to move and should they be going forwards or backwards...

How about the government says, "ok, this is a disaster zone... from here to there and from there to here, you CANNOT LIVE, GO, STAY, WALK, EAT, SHIT, MOVE, CROSS, etc. as it is a NO GO ZONE." By doing this, you will be massively moving people to a new area and will need major development to supply the needs for all the new residents. this would create jobs, businesses, educations, awareness, and a worldwide example of what to do in a fucked situation and also allow the government (or whomever) to handle the nuclear situation without the worry of civilian interference.

Would this be hard? Yes, but many people would love to see this (from an outside prospective) and the outcome years down the road would look much better than this. It isn't an "outside the box" approach, but a commons sense approach that (might have) been done if happened elsewhere...

lets hope that the 3rd time around that something (or anything halfway productive) gets done in less than a year.

[dimwit]

There was a very interesting show on Discovery, I think, about rebuilding after the quake. In the program, the mayor of a town presented the residents a plan for rebuilding the town, but the residents, all of whom seemed to be over 60 were bitching and complaining about everything and in the end the plan got shelved. So, in many ways a locals have been at least partly responsible for the delays.

As for Fukushima, I think there was (and still is) a denial in accepting just how bad the accident was and that some area around the plant will not be inhabitable for a lifetime and resettlement is going to have to happen.

[matsuki]

There was a very interesting show on Discovery, I think, about rebuilding after the quake. In the program, the mayor of a town presented the residents a plan for rebuilding the town, but the residents, all of whom seemed to be over 60 were bitching and complaining about everything and in the end the plan got shelved. So, in many ways a locals have been at least partly responsible for the delays.

That sucks but at some point the people in charge need to just take charge and take action instead of just giving up.

As for Fukushima, I think there was (and still is) a denial in accepting just how bad the accident was and that some area around the plant will not be inhabitable for a lifetime and resettlement is going to have to happen.

THIS

Denial of the scope of the tragedy and just pushing ahead with the shoganai attitude isn't exactly a good plan.

[legion]

I'm sure the people who were directly affected have had their trust "shattered" but I don't see a big groundswell of discontent among Tokyo residents. Until people in Kanto and other regions start dropping dead of radiation sickness no one's going to give a fuck about government ineptitude. After all, tsunamis and earthquakes are shoganai. Don't forget that the government was also criticized for their slow response after the Kobe quake while the yaks were praised for being the first on the ground with aid. Apparently that didn't change a fucking thing.

Yes it did, the dithering at Kobe was over whether or not they could deploy the SDF, if you remember the PM at the time was Mr Eyebrow Leftie who was worried about the pacifist constitution. They also dithered over accepting help from Uncle Sam. Obviously if they had allowed the US Army to do what it is good at, ie, pull peoples asses out of fires, then the death toll would have been much lower. If they had deployed the SDF quickly, lower still.

The next big quake was Niigata and they deployed the SDF, and last year they deployed them again, and accepted Uncle Sam's help, as evidenced by the fast clean up of Sendai Airport.

They do learn, they just get sucked into the trap of the interminable meeting, where they talk endlessly, decide nothing, and walk out convinced they have been working.