Do you live in a pre or post 1981 manshon?

[MrUltimateGaijin]

And how do you do feel about it? Especially Kanto people.

[gaijinpunch]

Post '81, and I feel fine.

[dimwit]

Manshon? What's with the Coligny spelling?

I live in a new house. I used to live in a apartment built in the late 80's but I am not sure that 1981 date in very meaningful. Enforcement of higher building standards really didn't come into play until after the Hanshin Earthquake of 1995.

[yanpa]

Exactly 1981, low-rise, and I feel reasonably fine.

It's the sea of wooden shacks in the surrounding area which give me cause for concern.

[MrUltimateGaijin]

[Taro Toporific]

M.. Enforcement of higher building standards really didn't come into play until after the Hanshin Earthquake of 1995.

I miss living in my old 1996 "mansion" in Yokohama that was waaay overbuilt. Just after the '95 quake, builders had a hard time selling multistory buildings without huge upgrades to their strength. My 1996 4-story mansion had 50X50cm pillars with diagonal bracing at the ceiling of each story. That building hardly moved during quakes and the place felt like a fortress.

Now I live in fear...in a 1991 Bubble-era, thin-wall, concrete mansion without corner pillars. Very scary.

[sublight]

Post. 2005, to be exact.

When the Aneha scandal broke out (architect accepting bribes to quake-certify buildings that didn't come up to spec), the company that built our mansion sent out letters to everyone assuring us that of the 450+ buildings of theirs that were in Kobe at the time of the Hanshin quake, none of them collapsed.

Note that 'didn't collapse' isn't the same as 'could still be safely lived in afterwards' but I guess it's something.

[Greji]

Manshon? What's with the Coligny spelling?

Come on Dimmer, be nice.
Coligny is just learning to letter and next week they will let him use pencils instead of crayons. We should be proud of his achievements...

[MrUltimateGaijin]

Come on Dimmer, be nice.
Coligny is just learning to letter and next week they will let him use pencils instead of crayons. We should be proud of his achievements...

I was using that spelling to specify re-enforced concrete construction in Japan, and "mansion" makes me think of something more Bill Gates worthy...

[Cyka UchuuJin]

I was using that spelling to specify re-enforced concrete construction in Japan, and "mansion" makes me think of something more Bill Gates worthy...

i gotta agree with you there, i still have a hard time saying 'mansion' in reference to a living space in japan.

[cstaylor]

i gotta agree with you there, i still have a hard time saying 'mansion' in reference to a living space in japan.

Think of them as servants' quarters, and the "mansion" description fits perfectly.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Does Japan even have real mansions? I've seen relatively large houses that rich people live in but nothing I'd call a mansion.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Does Japan even have real mansions? I've seen relatively large houses that rich people live in but nothing I'd call a mansion.

I can think of one smack, bang in the center of Tokyo...

[FG Lurker]

I think things were rethought after the '95 quake as well. I know in the Osaka area people are much happier to rent or buy something built based on the post-quake standards.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I can think of one smack, bang in the center of Tokyo...

I bet Oprah's place is nicer.

[Coligny]

Come on Dimmer, be nice.
Coligny is just learning to letter and next week they will let him use pencils instead of crayons. We should be proud of his achievements...

Bu..bu...but... when I eat mah crayon I can poop rainbowz...

1975 Bunker as you know... the planet it sits one will propably fall appart before the building...

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I bet Oprah's place is nicer.

I bet it is, too...Oprah's fortune is bigger than Australia's GDP

[Doctor Stop]

I bet it is, too...Oprah's fortune is bigger than Australia's GDP

And so is her ass.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

And so is her ass.

Great minds! I had actually started writing that, except I have pledged to myself to try and treat all people with love and compassion, so wiped it out before I posted.

Mind you, I'm lying...I had actually typed "arse."

[tidbits]

Used to live in a very old wooden apartment possibly pre1981, only 2 units on lower floor and 2 on upper floor. Very old and located at the outskirts , so other units are hardly occupied or long occupied. There was a couple living next to me and I could actually hear/ felt them doing.. This building has been taken down a few years ago, it would have had problem in 3/11 anyway. Then I moved to a 4 years old manshon (at the time I moved in 2004), feeling secured, beside the structure, there are auto lock etc, lots of privacy, no problem turning on the washing machine at night etc, but personally hate the lack of sunlight in that house. It was on the 1st floor (ground floor) right in the middle unit with apartment building closely located. Then I moved again to a smaller aparto (built 1993) last year (right before 3/11), as I used to do lots of laundry/ housework at night, I had my neighbors upstairs told me "itsu mo osoku made desu ne?" after a month, and I realized I have to change my lifestyle, but getting used to it now. There is a very big manshon being contructed just 5 months ago right next to this place, the house is moving & shaking almost everyday, but getting less now since they are building the 2nd floor now or maybe I am just getting used to it already. But anyway this present apartment definitely a better quality than my first ones and I am getting lots of sunlight here and love it.

[Iraira]

I'm slightly post Kobe. Building shakes nicely now and then and the floor vibrates somewhat when excessive flatulence is released (I should state that I kinda like to store it up and release it with a great amount of force....sort of to test the construction of the building...pity and woe to those who live below). Place came through 3/11 with only a plastic bottle of Vietnamese fish sauce falling over.....which would have been a major disaster had the bottle been made of glass.
I'm sure when/if Tokyo is the epicenter of something really big, more than fish sauce will fall over, but I'm generally prepared, and figure that once you've got some provisions set up, worrying about things isn't going to help. If the zombie attack follows the next huge quake....well....fuck it all.

[CrankyBastard]

[yanpa]

Call me angsty, but from way back my criteria for selecting a residential location in Tokyo have always been:

- well away from any water features (none of this "if the dikes fail, the water will come up this high"signage of the kind one finds in Edogawa-ku etc.)
- somewhere reasonably high up but not on a slope
- local geographical features must have been around long before the Tokugawas started messing with it
- defendable against zombies (there is a pachinko parlor across the street from the current place, which should suffice as a distraction)

[Russell]

Do you live in a pre or post 1981 manshon?

No, I do not live in a pre or post 1981 manshon.

And how do you do feel about it?

I feel happy about not living in a pre or post 1981 manshon.

Especially Kanto people.

Kobe people excluded?

[MrUltimateGaijin]

No, I do not live in a pre or post 1981 manshon.


I feel happy about not living in a pre or post 1981 manshon.


Kobe people excluded?

Because Kanto is overdue for/expecting a big one, not sure about Kobe.

[Russell]

Because Kanto is overdue for/expecting a big one, not sure about Kobe.

Frequency in Kobe is once every 400 years on average, but you never know with earthquakes...

Anyway, I moved to a house last year, and it is steel-framed non-concrete, built after 1995. That should keep my family safe in case it starts shaking here.

[gaijinpunch]

For the record, I was working in a 2008 or so mansion, on the 7th floor, for last year's quake. The building shook like it was doing the fucking hula dance. Of course, it didn't buckle so I'm not bitching, but no way did it fucking feel like a fortress.

[nikoneko]

Can we stop talking about earthquakes in Kobe please?

Anyway I believe ours was early 80s, it went through the big quake and is built like a concrete brickhouse. So much so that it interferes with wifi quite a bit. Is shaking a tiny bit in this storm but never much like the old wooden house we used to live in.

[Coligny]

Can we stop talking about earthquakes in Kobe please?

Anyway I believe ours was early 80s, it went through the big quake and is built like a concrete brickhouse. So much so that it interferes with wifi quite a bit. Is shaking a tiny bit in this storm but never much like the old wooden house we used to live in.

As long as we avoid ts00namiz too...

6 meters ASL here... need 2 panic room... the rad hardened on the first floor and an escape raft on the roof...

[nikoneko]

Haha. We're less than that actually, the ocean is about a half km from us. But Kobe is mostly protected by shikoku so it's all good. /knocks on wood