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Postby 40 Fl. oz. » Fri Sep 26, 2003 11:58 am

Sometimes I recieve *.bmp images instead of *.jpg images from someone who works for me. Does anyone know why that would be? Could they be altering the name of the picture (which says the date and time photo was taken, which is important in order to tell whether or not hes doing his work...) and as a result it becomes a *.bmp? Let me know.
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BMP? Russian APC...

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Postby Alcazar » Fri Sep 26, 2003 2:51 pm

Sorry, I was just being a dick: 'BMP' is also the name of a very famous line of Russian Armoured Personnel Carriers (APCs). :hehe:
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Re: *.bmp/*.jpg images using DOCOMO phones HEEELLLLP!!!!!!!!

Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Sep 26, 2003 3:07 pm

40 Fl. oz. wrote:Sometimes I recieve *.bmp images instead of *.jpg images from someone who works for me. Does anyone know why that would be? Could they be altering the name of the picture (which says the date and time photo was taken, which is important in order to tell whether or not hes doing his work...) and as a result it becomes a *.bmp? Let me know.


Hmmm, that does sound as fishy as a sushi shop with a busted refrigerator.

I thought all keitai cameras used JPEG to transmit an image. What type of keitai-cam is it and which service is the employee using? DoCoMo, Au, Vodaphone?
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Postby Caustic Saint » Fri Sep 26, 2003 11:29 pm

.jpg and .bmp are different image formats (obviously) and use different methods of ordering the data. I don't think you could change a .jpg to a .bmp just by renaming the extension. Sounds more to me like the pic's being taken, loaded on a computer then converted to a .bmp.

Wait, slight correction. I just tried it on my system, and the image still opened in the application it was originally meant for. Not sure what effect changing the extension would have in Windows, since it's generally more extension-dependant than OSX.

Is the file size any different as a .bmp than the .jpgs you've gotten before? .bmp files are generally much larger than .jpg.

(Note: I was in the middle of editing this last night when my DSL connection vanished. :( )
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Postby Steve Bildermann » Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:59 am

Simply changing the extension does nothing to the format. The format JPG must be converted to BMP by some outside program. I do not know of any keitai camera that uses BMP formet (it simply would look like shit) Mine uses JPG and PNG which I think is standard for most.

JPG: JPG (JPEG) supports 24 bits of color information, and is most commonly used for photographs and similar continuous-tone bitmap images. The JPEG file format stores all of the color information in an RGB image. JPEG was designed so that changes made to the original image during conversion to JPEG would not be visible to the human eye. Most imaging applications let you control the amount of lossy compression performed on an image, so you can trade off image quality for smaller file size and vice versa. Be aware that the chances of degrading your image when converting it to JPEG increase proportionally with the amount of compression you use. Unlike GIF, JPEG does not support transparency.


BMP: The Bitmap file format is used for bitmap graphics on the Windows platform only. Unlike other file formats the BMP format stores image data from bottom to top and pixels in blue/green/red order. Compression of BMP files is not supported, so they are usually very large.


BTW This is what happens when you convert a *person* from a regular JPG to a BMP. :D

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Postby GuyJean » Sat Sep 27, 2003 10:25 am

Steve Bildermann wrote:BTW This is what happens when you convert a *person* from a regular JPG to a BMP. :D

:lol: Good one, Steve. How bout PNG to GIF? :wink:

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Postby GomiGirl » Sat Sep 27, 2003 3:21 pm

As far as i know, you can't change the extension on a keitai photo on the handset itself. The only thing I can think of is that they are sending the photo to the phone (from a PC?) and then the person is forwarding it to your PC.

Why they would do this is beyond me as it wold cost a truckload of packets.
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Postby Steve Bildermann » Sun Sep 28, 2003 9:39 am

OK - Well I tried renaming a file but it stayed as Jpeg (which I expected it would) I couldn't rename it to .bmp as the DOT wasn't avilable during renaming.
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Postby GomiGirl » Mon Sep 29, 2003 3:46 pm

Anonymous wrote:

So I would appreciate it if you could just rename an image and send it to your computer, then check the file type... jpg or bmp?

I know its confusing and im probably not explaining it well.


Hey 40fl.oz.. I suspect this is you.

We have all told you that it is impossible to do this from a keitai.. this person is forwarding it to a PC and then forwarding it back... It is NOT possible to send a BMP from a keitai - they only send JPG's even if they are renamed..

but it would also help to know what handset he is using.. ie what network.

Again you are being very rude and demanding of people who have taken time out of their busy schedule to answer you - for FREE. You didn't get the answer you wanted so again you replied in a sarcastic tone. If you want a full test then I suggest you hire a mobile phone consultant such as myself to perform the test for you.
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Postby 40 Fl. oz. » Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:32 am

i didnt demand shit. i expressed appreciation for everyone that was helping me and respectfully requested they continue to do so, so STFU.

i explained in detail what would prove whether or not the images have been renamed. since steve gave it a go but didnt understand what i was requesting... anyhow thanks for giving it a go steve. i appreciate it.

Also, gomigirl, this guy has no FUCKING CLUE how to use a computer. So put that in your pipe and smoke it wiseass. If you want to be helpful instead of flaming me or giving me false info then do so. Otherwise leave.
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Postby Steve Bildermann » Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:04 am

I'm still willing to keep trying and I have tried but I can't find *anyway* to produce a BMP file when constricted to using a Keitai only. If I move it to a PC then no problem.

What else can I try?
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smoking wiseass in his pipe.

Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:07 am

40 Fl. oz. wrote:this guy has no FUCKING CLUE how to use a computer. So put that in your pipe and smoke it wiseass....



Well, it's your Mr. BMP that's smoking wiseass in his pipe. Don't chew us out. We are all saying that this JPEG to BMP change is not possible from any our keitai. He has to be sending it to his own computer and relaying to you, <OR> he is sending it through a "Gateway" service of someone's personal computer or some other company.

For example, he could be sending the keitai pictures through a very misconfigured Japanese version of Hiptop Nation or textamerica.com.

Anyway, take a look at these pokemon bathtub fun from japan. 8)
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Postby THuG_Crew » Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:16 am

ummmm, I know I should keep my big fat head out of this..but I thought I would just stick it in anyway. I was looking at my DOCOMO phone, (p251is), and I realise that yes, the camera on the phone only takes .JPG, and it seems unlikely that I could rename the extension..didnt try...but I also realized that I have some .gif imeges that i sent myself...which were renamed twice, once from my comp to phone, and once on the phone itself....and it stayed as .gif...not that this is your problum....so it seems to me that the person in doubt, is sending it from comp to phone, to you, and that they are altering it in some fashion. I know that if you change the .ext on a windows based machine, it will stay with that .ext, however you still may not be able to open it.....so if the person is ussing say quicktime, downloads to them selves, quicktime opens it, and changes the .ext..then sends it back..well there you go.....maybe they are not doing the comp stuff at all...I assume they have friends. i will shut my mouth now. thank you. Bling bling
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Postby Caustic Saint » Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:28 pm

40 Fl. oz. wrote:Also, gomigirl, this guy has no FUCKING CLUE how to use a computer. So put that in your pipe and smoke it wiseass. If you want to be helpful instead of flaming me or giving me false info then do so. Otherwise leave.

This is cute. The 80-post wonder telling GG to leave. :roll:
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typcial white chick's reply

Postby GomiGirl » Tue Sep 30, 2003 3:46 pm

40 Fl. oz. wrote:i didnt demand shit. i expressed appreciation for everyone that was helping me and respectfully requested they continue to do so, so STFU.

i explained in detail what would prove whether or not the images have been renamed. since steve gave it a go but didnt understand what i was requesting... anyhow thanks for giving it a go steve. i appreciate it.


And for the 17th time.. people did test it and gave you the results which you refused to believe.

Yes I did flame you.. why because, while this thread started off quite interestingly with a request about a keitai that I hadn't heard before, I and others, did your test a few times in a few different ways and posted the results. But degenerated when you were not getting the attention you wanted.

Shall I spell it out for you.. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE ON A REGULAR KEITAI TO CHANGE THE EXTENSION FROM A JPG TO A BMP. THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENING.

But for whatever reason you decided not to believe the answers you received and posted the following to me.

40 Fl. oz. wrote:well thats obviously not it. would anyone be willing to take 5 minutes out of their busy lives to perform the experiment i suggested above?


Which despite my insenstive nature to these types of commments came across as an extremely dismissive, smart ass and yet somewhat demanding reply given that the experiment had already been performed.

(BTW I work with keitai's on a daily basis given that my company is a mobile phone software development house and I never give out any false information - except about my age)

Have you checked out your mail server to find out that the images are not being munged on receipt by your system?

I know that we have locked horns in the past over similar whiney and repetitive demands you made for people to find some porn queen that you were wanting but were not getting the attention that you wanted.

If you want people to go the extra mile for you, then perhaps it might be good for you to help others out once in a while. We only ever hear from you when you want something.
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Postby Video-Link Japan » Tue Sep 30, 2003 5:27 pm

40 Fl. oz. wrote:Also, gomigirl, this guy has no FUCKING CLUE how to use a computer. So put that in your pipe and smoke it wiseass. If you want to be helpful instead of flaming me or giving me false info then do so. Otherwise leave.


Whew.. plenty of mistakes along the tread here, but how you figured gomiGIRL is a guy really takes the cake..!!! If I was looking for the answer to your question she would be the 1st person to ask.. no shit.

SO, while it seems like an important issue to figure out, perhaps you should consider asking somebody at nttdocomo. No Doubt they would be quite 'happy' to give you the same answer (someday) and you'll end up about where you are right now, wondering if the person who started this whole mess is screwing around. What would be your next move then..?!?
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Re: typcial white chick's reply

Postby 40 Fl. oz. » Tue Sep 30, 2003 11:49 pm

&quot wrote:
40 Fl. oz. wrote:And for the 17th time.. people did test it and gave you the results which you refused to believe.

Shall I spell it out for you.. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE ON A REGULAR KEITAI TO CHANGE THE EXTENSION FROM A JPG TO A BMP. THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENING.



40 Fl. oz. wrote:well thats obviously not it. would anyone be willing to take 5 minutes out of their busy lives to perform the experiment i suggested above?


Which despite my insenstive nature to these types of commments came across as an extremely dismissive, smart ass and yet somewhat demanding reply given that the experiment had already been performed.

(BTW I work with keitai's on a daily basis given that my company is a mobile phone software development house and I never give out any false information - except about my age)

Have you checked out your mail server to find out that the images are not being munged on receipt by your system?

I know that we have locked horns in the past over similar whiney and repetitive demands you made for people to find some porn queen that you were wanting but were not getting the attention that you wanted.

If you want people to go the extra mile for you, then perhaps it might be good for you to help others out once in a while. We only ever hear from you when you want something.


Maybe you should learn how to spell before you "spell it out for me" since it is OBVIOUSLY NOT his computer changing the file type. Might be hard for you to swallow but it it's true. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE HAPPENEING. NO OUTSIDE HARDWARE BEING USED. SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT THE COMPUTER ALLREADY. ITS NOT A FACTOR. Can you read that? Is it making it's way into your thick skull?
You work for a keitai software company? Congrats! You should be mopping their fucking floors cus you can't give educated advice until someone has pounded the facts into your head or argued with you about your beliefs for hours.

And let's bring up past arguments because they are so fucking relevent here, jackass. Make me look as bad as possible. Half the people here wouldn't know that that chick is my friend, etc, so shut the hell up and leave that shit out of this.

I spend plenty of time here and comment when I can be of help. However, MOST of the conversaitions that go on here are fluff or news. Stop making accusations bitch.

Now you did FINALLY give one suggestion, to see if my mail service was causing all this to happen. I'll look into that. THANKS!

video-link - You must have misread what I wrote. I was talking to gomiGIRL about this guy.

Sorry to the rest of fuckedgaijin for this BS. I would rather not take up anymore of our space with useless arguing, so enjoy yourself gomigirl. I'm done.

Thanks for your help everyone.
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Give them enough rope...

Postby GomiGirl » Wed Oct 01, 2003 2:50 pm

Thanks for the best laugh I have had all week..

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Postby Caustic Saint » Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:14 pm

Okay now. You two kids keep this up and I'm gonna turn the hose on you.

GG, can you go put on a white t-shirt? :twisted:
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