Time for a new TV again, folks!

[yanpa]

TV with 16 times resolution of HDTV passed by UN standards body
Ultra High Definition TV, with 7680x4320 resolution and 120 frames/sec, was approved by the International Telecommunication Union

By Jay Alabaster | Published: 14:09, 23 August 2012

A new television format that has 16 times the resolution of current High Definition TV has been approved by an international standards body, Japanese sources said earlier today.

UHDTV, or Ultra High Definition Television, allows for programming and broadcasts at resolutions of up to 7680 by 4320, along with frame refresh rates of up to 120Hz, double that of most current HDTV broadcasts. The format also calls for a broader palette of colours that can be displayed on screen.

The video format was approved earlier this month by member nations of the International Telecommunication Union, a standards and regulatory body agency of the United Nations, according to an official at NHK, Japan's public broadcasting station, and another at the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications. Both spoke on condition of anonymity.

Japan has been pushing for international approval of the new format, which was designed and developed by NHK. It is hoped that international adoption will give the country an advantage as television progresses to the next generation. NHK has stated that it hopes to begin widespread trial broadcasts of the format, which it calls Super Hi-Vision, by 2020.

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[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Ultra outranks Super

[Taro Toporific]

NHK has stated that it hopes to begin widespread trial broadcasts of the format, which it calls Super Hi-Vision, by 2020.
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I am surprised that NHK went with the name "Super Hi-Vision" since Hi-Vision was arguably the worst financial failure in the history of TV.

[Coligny]

I am surprised that NHK went with the name "Super Hi-Vision" since Hi-Vision was arguably the worst financial failure in the history of TV.

Got links aboot this fiasco ? I'm too lazy to dumpster google dive such a generic term...

[yanpa]

I remember being shown one of those TVs in operation at NHK the first time I visited Japan in 1993. It was quite impressive, especially for an impoverished student who only had access to an East German-built B+W monster rescued from the trash.

See: MUSE (Multiple sub-Nyquist sampling encoding) (Wikipedia) and MUSE - Japanese HDTV.

[matsuki]

Japan has been pushing for international approval of the new format, which was designed and developed by NHK. It is hoped that international adoption will give the country an advantage as television progresses to the next generation. NHK has stated that it hopes to begin widespread trial broadcasts of the format, which it calls Super Hi-Vision, by 2020.

What advantage? Samsung will be pumping out these with decent enough quality at half the cost....

....until the Yen flops to something like 500円/＄

[IparryU]

...until the Yen flops to something like 500円/＄

I cant wait...

[matsuki]

...until the Yen flops to something like 500円/＄

I cant wait...

I can...all my businesses are focused on importing right now. Get it while it's good...then run before realizes how overhyped and BS the current valuation is.

[Samurai_Jerk]

...until the Yen flops to something like 500円/＄

I cant wait...

How would that help you? Aren't you paid in yen?

[IparryU]

...until the Yen flops to something like 500円/＄

I cant wait...

How would that help you? Aren't you paid in yen?

Sometimes... mostly pound and US dollar. so right now i am just banking all my USD and GBP and spending the little JPY i get. my wife gets paid in JPY, so that covers rent and general expences... but other stuff I have to exchange from GBP or USD... which sucks ass.

[Coligny]

What advantage? Samsung will be pumping out these with decent enough quality at half the cost....

....until the Yen flops to something like 500円/＄

Took me hours to realize that it gives you less for your yens...

And I'm supposed to start trading forex soon...

[Taro Toporific]

I am surprised that NHK went with the name "Super Hi-Vision" since Hi-Vision was arguably the worst financial failure in the history of TV.

Got links aboot this fiasco ? I'm too lazy to dumpster google dive such a generic term...

Analog "Hi-Vision" has been a train wreck in slow motion for Japan/NHK since the early '80s. The early HDTV commercial experiments of NHK's MUSE required over four times the bandwidth of a standard-definition broadcast and only could distributed by satellite with with 7 broadcasters sharing a single "BS" channel---In other words totally FUCKED.

A few of the old codgers here can remember the huge campaigns by Japan Inc. trying to get everyone to buy a Hi-Vision TV set for the bargain price of 800,000 yen (normally 1.2 million yen) for the 1988 Seoul Olympics. I wrote a quite a few of Hitachi's translated engrish advertisements for that 1988 Hi-Vision sales campaign. The problem was, every improvement I made in the Hi-Vision engrish ads was shot down. Finally, I learned that Japan's MITI had given gun-to-the-head "administrative guidance" to Hitachi and all the other Japanese manufacturers to sell more Hi-Vision TVs, but all the makers were losing 300-600,000 yen on every TV they "sold."

You never find any "official" report, but the a back-of-an-envelop calculation by a Keio economics professor and I came up with a conservative estimate that NHK Hi-Vision resulting in a loss to the Japanese economy 2% of GDP for almost two decades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_di ... ntry#Japan

BOTTOM LINE:
Never ever buy any Version 1 (or 2, 3) of Japanese high definition TV.

[Coligny]

I'm pretty sure lots of US analog HD tv wuz pissed of too...

[Taro Toporific]

I'm pretty sure lots of US analog HD tv wuz pissed of too...

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Soviet Supreme had the first HD (analog) system at 625x5625!

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I'm pretty sure lots of US analog HD tv wuz pissed of too...

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Soviet Supreme had the first HD (analog) system at 625x5625!

Wasn't this the bloke that caused The Day After?

[wuchan]

Typical Japanese thinking...


"wait, we can't win? OK we'll just change the rules."

Kimchees are beating us at the TV game? Let's change the signal!

[canman]

I always wondered who was the driving force behind the shift to HD in the first place. If it was the manufacturers, which I assume it was, i was thinking that the sudden and forced switch to the new format has done more to create their downfall than anything. In the past, people purchased TVs when they needed a new one, or if some new snazzy function was released, or they wanted to add a new one so every room could have one. But then the push for HD started, and at first it was a boon to the makers, as they had a captive consumer group, but once everyone made the switch and they had their shiny new HD sets, there was no need for anything else, not for a long time. They tried 3D, but that has failed miserably, so the next step is come up with another new format!

[Coligny]

which can be a big mistake...

with people shying away from dreadfull tv broadcast, the need for yet another tv set switch could be the nail in the coffin.

maybee...

[matsuki]

Who needs TV broadcasting anyway? Interwebz will replace eh-bee-ting!

[yanpa]

...NHK has stated that it hopes to begin widespread trial broadcasts of the format, which it calls Super Hi-Vision, by 2020.

If you can't wait until then, the first 4K UHDTVs (a mere 3840×2160 pixels) are becoming available, clotting up the acronym soup even further.

IFA: Move over 3D, it’s time for 4K UHDTV

After five years of trying to convince us that 3D TVs are the future, it seems TV makers are finally ready to move on — to 4K UHDTV. At the IFA consumer electronics show in Berlin, Sony, Toshiba, and LG are all showing off 84-inch 4K (3840×2160) TVs. These aren’t just vaporware, either: LG’s TV is on sale now in Korea (and later this month in the US), Sony’s is due later this year, and Toshiba will follow in the new year.

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(meanwhile here in the Yanpa household we have successfully purchased a TV by wandering around the local big box store and finding one which a) is the right size, b) had the right number of price reduction tags on it and c) was not from Sony. It also comes equipped with an eye-watering number of acronyms but at this stage in life all I require is a clearly-labelled on/off switch and basic ability to reconstruct ethereal signals into moving pictures).

[Taro Toporific]

...we have successfully purchased a TV by wandering around the local big box store and finding one which ... c) was not from Sony...

When the Taro household needed a new TV, the big box store salesman was rather taken aback when my first two criteria was a) absolutely not Sony and b) lowest standby electric consumption.

[Taro Toporific]

...NHK has stated that it hopes to begin widespread trial broadcasts of the format, which it calls Super Hi-Vision, by 2020.

If you can't wait until then, the first 4K UHDTVs (a mere 3840×2160 pixels) are becoming available, clotting up the acronym soup even further.

Japan to start 4K TV broadcast in July 2014: report
Reuters | January 26, 2013
TOKYO ---The Japanese government is set to launch the world's first 4K TV broadcast in July 2014, roughly two years ahead of schedule, to help stir demand for ultra high-definition televisions...
...Japan's Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications had aimed to kick-start the 4K TV service in 2016. That has been brought forward to July 2014, when the final match of the 2014 football World Cup ...
...the development of super high-definition 8K TVs is in progress, and the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Communications plans to launch the test 8K TV broadcast in 2016, two years ahead of schedule...

[legion]

Great, Ultra HD shows about ramen

[Coligny]

Great, Ultra HD shows about ramen

Sidenote... have you seen an AKB48 concert in 3D blueray ? I saw a demo at the local yamada and drooled all the way back home...

[matsuki]

Great, Ultra HD shows about ramen

Maybe they'll finally use something stationary to do the spoon/fork/hashi pose...all the one's I've seen recently look like Parkinson's disease patients are being used to hold the utensils for them while they do a close up.

[Cyka UchuuJin]

...we have successfully purchased a TV by wandering around the local big box store and finding one which ... c) was not from Sony...

When the Taro household needed a new TV, the big box store salesman was rather taken aback when my first two criteria was a) absolutely not Sony and b) lowest standby electric consumption.

pour quoi non Sony??

[FG Lurker]

What's this "again" crap? I still have my 12+ year old 29" Toshiba 4:3 tube TV!

[yanpa]

...we have successfully purchased a TV by wandering around the local big box store and finding one which ... c) was not from Sony...

When the Taro household needed a new TV, the big box store salesman was rather taken aback when my first two criteria was a) absolutely not Sony and b) lowest standby electric consumption.

pour quoi non Sony??

Parce-que on dit que Sony est crap et faire le breakdown not long after the guarantee runs out. Apparently. Also it's an arbitrary criteria to narrow down the range of models to select.

[Coligny]

...we have successfully purchased a TV by wandering around the local big box store and finding one which ... c) was not from Sony...

When the Taro household needed a new TV, the big box store salesman was rather taken aback when my first two criteria was a) absolutely not Sony and b) lowest standby electric consumption.

pour quoi non Sony??

Muwahahahaha... today FG, tomorrow... zee weurld...

hem... 'scuse me...

Ahahahahaha... aujourd'hui FG, demain... LE MONDE...

[Coligny]

What's this "again" crap? I still have my 12+ year old 29" Toshiba 4:3 tube TV!

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I always knew you wuz a cat person...