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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:39 pm

The population of Tokyo is expected to almost halve to 7.13 million in 2100; with 46% aged 65 or over...
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UPDATE: The Japan TImes is now reporting the story openly (unlike the Japanese press).
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20120903x1.html

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Postby matsuki » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:00 pm

So basically it will be...

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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:35 pm

You're sure they're not talking about the rampant rising nationalism and how people are all going to be split in two by samurai swords if they don't pull the Yamato chain?
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Re: Tokyo is expected to become livable by 2100

Postby matsuki » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:42 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:You're sure they're not talking about the rampant rising nationalism and how people are all going to be split in two by samurai swords if they don't pull the Yamato chain?


You should see the "OMFG, you have insulted my family, my bloodline, and my culture!" type reactions I've gotten from young people by (and quite accurately I might add) calling their homes tsukaisute garbage. All I can say is "I didn't start it" as the convo always seems to stem from their false pride in Japan's "superior earthquake-proof homes." (always with some air of Japan being the only place on earth with earthquakes and building codes) Followed by a bunch of BS about how western homes are inefficient, poorly built, and fall apart so easily.
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:43 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:You're sure they're not talking about the rampant rising nationalism and how people are all going to be split in two by samurai swords if they don't pull the Yamato chain?


You should see the "OMFG, you have insulted my family, my bloodline, and my culture!" type reactions I've gotten from young people by (and quite accurately I might add) calling their homes tsukaisute garbage. All I can say is "I didn't start it" as the convo always seems to stem from their false pride in Japan's "superior earthquake-proof homes." (always with some air of Japan being the only place on earth with earthquakes and building codes) Followed by a bunch of BS about how western homes are inefficient, poorly built, and fall apart so easily.


You should know everything the Japanese do is done better. Fuck! Are you stupid or something?
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Postby matsuki » Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:49 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:You're sure they're not talking about the rampant rising nationalism and how people are all going to be split in two by samurai swords if they don't pull the Yamato chain?


You should see the "OMFG, you have insulted my family, my bloodline, and my culture!" type reactions I've gotten from young people by (and quite accurately I might add) calling their homes tsukaisute garbage. All I can say is "I didn't start it" as the convo always seems to stem from their false pride in Japan's "superior earthquake-proof homes." (always with some air of Japan being the only place on earth with earthquakes and building codes) Followed by a bunch of BS about how western homes are inefficient, poorly built, and fall apart so easily.


You should know everything the Japanese do is done better. Fuck! Are you stupid or something?


Followed by, "If you hate Japan soo much, why are you here?! Go home shirobuta!"

The Japanese are definitely the best at ignoring all reason when anything Japanese comes under criticism.
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Postby yanpa » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:13 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Japan being the only place on earth with earthquakes and building codes


It is a little-known fact that to become an architect or city planner in Japan, one must gain a certain level of proficiency in Tetris.
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Postby GomiGirl » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:58 pm

Whoever designed most japanese kitchens should be shot - or better yet, forced to cook in one on a daily basis. Mostly hideous design with no practical thought to workflow or best use of space. Also, designed thinking that the average Japanese home cook is 210cm tall to reach the upper cupboards.
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Re: Tokyo is expected to become livable by 2100

Postby yanpa » Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:10 pm

Also that person should be apprised of the fact that given a choice between a sink large enough to bathe twin babies in with space left over for rubber ducks, and more counter space, I'd personally go for the counter space.
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Re: Tokyo is expected to become livable by 2100

Postby Russell » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:52 pm

yanpa wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:Japan being the only place on earth with earthquakes and building codes


It is a little-known fact that to become an architect or city planner in Japan, one must gain a certain level of proficiency in Tetris.

:rofl:

Some knowledge of LEGO will also do?
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Re: Tokyo is expected to become livable by 2100

Postby Russell » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:55 pm

GomiGirl wrote:Whoever designed most japanese kitchens should be shot - or better yet, forced to cook in one on a daily basis. Mostly hideous design with no practical thought to workflow or best use of space. Also, designed thinking that the average Japanese home cook is 210cm tall to reach the upper cupboards.

Actually, the height of the sink and such is too low for me, and I am less than 190cm.

But granted, the top shelves in our kitchen are virtually unused, because it is way beyond Mrs. Russell's.
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Postby Russell » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:02 pm

yanpa wrote:Also that person should be apprised of the fact that given a choice between a sink large enough to bathe twin babies in with space left over for rubber ducks, and more counter space, I'd personally go for the counter space.

This!

When I inquired with a salesman about the price of a shower unit, he was making fun of me for wanting just a shower, and not a bath.

I told the fucker I already have one bath, and do not need a second one in my home. That shut him up. :mrgreen:
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Re: Tokyo is expected to become livable by 2100

Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:42 pm

UPDATE: The Japan TImesis now reporting the story openly (unlike the rest of the pavid Japanese press).



46% will be seniors, group says
Population of Tokyo to drop to half by 2100
japantimes.co.jp | Monday, Sep. 3, 2012
2100 will see Tokyo's population standing at around 7.13 million — about half of what it is today — with 45.9 percent of those in the metropolis aged 65 or over, a group of academics and bureaucrats has concluded.
Tokyo's population, which stood at 13.16 million in 2010, will peak at 13.35 million in 2020 before dropping by 45.8 percent from the 2010 census figure 88 years from now, the group, including seven academics and 10 metro government buttheads...more...
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Postby TennoChinko » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:41 am

Taro Toporific wrote:The population of Tokyo is expected to almost halve to 7.13 million in 2100; with 46% aged 65 or over...
Nikkei.png
Sadly this article is behind the Nikkei's paywall.

UPDATE: The Japan TImes is now reporting the story openly (unlike the Japanese press).
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20120903x1.html

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http://e.nikkei.com/e/ac/tnks/Nni20120903D03JF958.htm

Monday, September 3, 2012

Tokyo's Population To Halve To 7.1mn In 2100

TOKYO (Kyodo)--
The population of Tokyo is expected to almost halve to 7.13 million in 2100, and the percentage of Tokyoites aged 65 or over will soar to 45.9 percent, research by a group of academics and bureaucrats showed Sunday.

The population of Tokyo, which stood at 13.16 million in 2010, will reach a peak of 13.35 million in 2020 and then decline 45.8 percent from the 2010 censure figure 88 years later from now, the study group including seven academics and 10 Tokyo metropolitan government and municipal bureaucrats said.

Tokyo's population level in 2100 will be similar to that around 1940, the year before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

"The number of people in their most productive years will decline while the local government will face severe financial strains," the group said. "So it will be crucial to take measures to turn around falling birthrates and enhance social security measures for the elderly."

The number of people aged 65 or over, estimated at 2.68 million in 2010, will peak at 4.41 million in 2050 before falling to 3.27 million in 2100, while their proportion in the overall population will rise to 37.6 percent in 2050 and 45.9 percent in 2100 compared with 20.4 percent in 2010.

Those aged in their productive years between 15 and 64 will represent 46.5 percent of the overall population in 2100, the group said.

The projections assume that those moving into Tokyo will continue to outnumber those moving out and that the total fertility rate -- the average number of children a woman gives birth to over her lifetime -- will remain unchanged at its 2010 level of 1.12 among Tokyo women, the lowest level in the nation.

Akihiko Matsutani, professor emeritus at the National Graduate Institute for Policy Studies, said, "The working population, concentrated in Tokyo, will be rapidly graying. If the economies of developing countries continue growing, the international competitiveness of major companies in Tokyo will dive."

The National Institute of Population and Social Security Research estimates Japan's population will total 49.59 million in 2100, down 61.3 percent from 2010, with those aged 65 or over accounting for 41.1 percent.
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Postby Dreamy_Peach » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:43 am

Great thread title. About sums it up.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:04 am

Russell wrote:Actually, the height of the sink and such is too low for me, and I am less than 190cm.


They're generally too low for me and I'm only about 173.
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Postby Coligny » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:12 am

Same... but with their flexible exit pipe plumbing I was able to lift them... And scare mominlaw because I was bathing a baby in a buckit in the kitchen sink... (lucky I had picts of toddler-me in the same setup in mah great grandmothers kitchen in Verdun).

But since I married a midget (from outerspace) I had to lower everything back... and put a bumpy-cushion (automotive/parking aisle of the hardware store) on the sidewall to rest my head when I use the sink for longer than a handwash... if not, the backache kicks in and I can't stand up anymore...
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Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:34 am

Holy shit....I didn't know the French washed.
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Postby JAVGOD » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:13 am

We have to wait til 2100 for Tokyo to be at attack population levels?
Fuck, I don't know if I can wait that long. We need to attack something now!
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Postby matsuki » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:01 am

Coligny wrote:Same... but with their flexible exit pipe plumbing I was able to lift them... And scare mominlaw because I was bathing a baby in a buckit in the kitchen sink... (lucky I had picts of toddler-me in the same setup in mah great grandmothers kitchen in Verdun).

But since I married a midget (from outerspace) I had to lower everything back... and put a bumpy-cushion (automotive/parking aisle of the hardware store) on the sidewall to rest my head when I use the sink for longer than a handwash... if not, the backache kicks in and I can't stand up anymore...


Back and knees....no wonder why you see all the hunch backed old people here... :cry:
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Postby GomiGirl » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:21 pm

I am 157cm and the sink is at a perfect height for me. :biggrin2:

I'd kill for a pantry though.. and an oven.. and a dishwasher.. but you can't have everything. :cry2:
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Postby matsuki » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:47 pm

GomiGirl wrote:I am 157cm and the sink is at a perfect height for me. :biggrin2:

I'd kill for a pantry though.. and an oven.. and a dishwasher.. but you can't have everything. :cry2:


If that's your everything in life, your husband has chosen well :mrgreen:
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Postby Coligny » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:49 pm

GomiGirl wrote:I am 157cm and the sink is at a perfect height for me. :biggrin2:


OMG !! youre a meedgit... you'ze done movie or wrestling ?

GomiGirl wrote:I'd kill for a pantry though..


I got used to store cans on the floor...

GomiGirl wrote: and an oven..


Meee tooo... We bought an awesome gas one for muminlaw mothersday few years ago... it's awesome... but forbidden to cook meat or fish... only for baking breads, pastries or pizzaz... :-(

GomiGirl wrote: and a dishwasher.. but you can't have everything. :cry2:


They go toy ones... all transparent plastic shit... keeps the cats entertained for hours...
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Postby yanpa » Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:54 pm

GomiGirl wrote:I'd kill for a ... and a dishwasher..


You can have ours, it would be great if you use half-sized dishes or are single, other than that it's a chuto hanpa waste of space. :roll:

(You'd have to arrange for the space to be filled with a cupboard or something which exactly matches the rest of the unit , mind )
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Postby matsuki » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:33 pm

Dishwashers, washing machines, don't get me started on the fridges with 30% of the space wasted for a giant ass veggie drawer on the bottom.(unless you're a farmer, at best, you'll only ever get that thing halfway filled. Are their any basic JDM appliances that actually make any sense?
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Postby GomiGirl » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:20 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Dishwashers, washing machines, don't get me started on the fridges with 30% of the space wasted for a giant ass veggie drawer on the bottom.(unless you're a farmer, at best, you'll only ever get that thing halfway filled. Are their any basic JDM appliances that actually make any sense?


I fill the veggie drawer all the time. Sometimes I even think it is too small. My kid eats fruit by the metric tonne these days and I am a veggie freak.

You know you can use the veggie drawer for standing up bottles of beverages too.

I have these little divider thingies that are really helpful to sort out that drawer so you are not piling veg on top of each other but standing them up vertically. This saves you from bruising the soft stuff with your pumpkin and corn on the cob.
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Postby matsuki » Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:49 pm

GomiGirl wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:Dishwashers, washing machines, don't get me started on the fridges with 30% of the space wasted for a giant ass veggie drawer on the bottom.(unless you're a farmer, at best, you'll only ever get that thing halfway filled. Are their any basic JDM appliances that actually make any sense?


I fill the veggie drawer all the time. Sometimes I even think it is too small. My kid eats fruit by the metric tonne these days and I am a veggie freak.

You know you can use the veggie drawer for standing up bottles of beverages too.

I have these little divider thingies that are really helpful to sort out that drawer so you are not piling veg on top of each other but standing them up vertically. This saves you from bruising the soft stuff with your pumpkin and corn on the cob.


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Yeah, I find odd ways to use it but I'd much prefer a taller main section than the extra big drawer down there.
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Postby Russell » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:06 pm

yanpa wrote:
GomiGirl wrote:I'd kill for a ... and a dishwasher..


You can have ours, it would be great if you use half-sized dishes or are single, other than that it's a chuto hanpa waste of space. :roll:

(You'd have to arrange for the space to be filled with a cupboard or something which exactly matches the rest of the unit , mind )

If you want a big dishwasher, just go to IKEA. I recall seeing some European (Italian?) brands there.
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Postby GomiGirl » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:46 pm

Russell wrote:
yanpa wrote:
GomiGirl wrote:I'd kill for a ... and a dishwasher..


You can have ours, it would be great if you use half-sized dishes or are single, other than that it's a chuto hanpa waste of space. :roll:

(You'd have to arrange for the space to be filled with a cupboard or something which exactly matches the rest of the unit , mind )

If you want a big dishwasher, just go to IKEA. I recall seeing some European (Italian?) brands there.


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Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:41 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
I'm only about 173.


you are chibier than me.
im 176.
and this is the reason you are fixated to live in this weird state.
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