Oil surcharge

[canman]

I plan on going back to Canada at Christmas, but coming back in January, so its not really technically leaving Japan, anyway, I see that from October 1st the oil surcharge rate will be changed. If I book my ticket now, and it goes up will I have to pay the increased charge. Or if it goes down will i get a rebate? Does anybody know will it increase or decrease, this October? ANA has a decent price round trip Narita to Ottawa for Y116K. Should I book now or wait? Advice please.

[FG Lurker]

I plan on going back to Canada at Christmas, but coming back in January, so its not really technically leaving Japan, anyway, I see that from October 1st the oil surcharge rate will be changed. If I book my ticket now, and it goes up will I have to pay the increased charge. Or if it goes down will i get a rebate? Does anybody know will it increase or decrease, this October? ANA has a decent price round trip Narita to Ottawa for Y116K. Should I book now or wait? Advice please.

If your ticket is confirmed but not issued and the fuel surcharge changes then you have to pay the difference (or you save the difference if it drops.)

If your ticket has been issued then the price (including the fuel surcharge) is fixed and will not increase or decrease.

On the downside, once the ticket has been issued you also can not change or cancel anything without incurring whatever penalties the airline has in place for that type of ticket. So, make 100% sure you are going and that those days are fine.

[matsuki]

THIS....and fuck Japan's fuel surcharge (and fuck ANA!! Use Singapore instead, more mileage accrues, better service, cuter FA's, and cheaper excess baggage charges)

http://www.japanprobe.com/2008/05/24/ri ... urcharges/

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Where is DB Cooper when you need him?

[canman]

One more airline related question. Unfortunately the most convenient and moderately priced flight I can find is with Delta. Of course they won't update their fuel surcharge prices until November 1st, but non-the-less. what I would like to know, if I book a ticket with them now, and it is confirmed, but in the future before flying, they change the dates or times, etc., do i have any right to change my flights or am i screwed? As it is right now the flight times are really good, but I worry that they might cancel the flight or push things to a later time. Thanks

[matsuki]

One more airline related question. Unfortunately the most convenient and moderately priced flight I can find is with Delta. Of course they won't update their fuel surcharge prices until November 1st, but non-the-less. what I would like to know, if I book a ticket with them now, and it is confirmed, but in the future before flying, they change the dates or times, etc., do i have any right to change my flights or am i screwed? As it is right now the flight times are really good, but I worry that they might cancel the flight or push things to a later time. Thanks

They probably have fees if you try to change your flight but you'd have to ask when you purchase as that's totally dependent on how/where/terms of purchase.

[canman]

I thought so. And I must admit I was wrong. Delta will change their fuel surcharge on October 1. But it is only Y5000 on a round trip ticket, not really worth it, if the cheaper tickets are all gone, and i have to pay much more just for a regular ticket. Will book now and see what happens.

[Mock Cockpit]

When you recieve your e-ticket it should have the fare class written on it somewhere. Delta's homepage should have information about all fare classes. http://cwsi.net/delta.htm

[canman]

Thanks for the responses, while I was booking my ticket, Delta has an online chat with a representative function, so I asked about the fuel surcharge question, to which she answered, sure you can change your ticket if the fuel surcharge has gone down, but it will cost you $150 to get a new ticket. So the oil surcharge is to drop $50, and I am going to pay $150 to get a new ticket issued. I think not.
Also it seems they have the right to change any flight, at anytime, and as long as they offer you another, you are SOL as to the time etc.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Thanks for the responses, while I was booking my ticket, Delta has an online chat with a representative function, so I asked about the fuel surcharge question, to which she answered, sure you can change your ticket if the fuel surcharge has gone down, but it will cost you $150 to get a new ticket. So the oil surcharge is to drop $50, and I am going to pay $150 to get a new ticket issued. I think not.
Also it seems they have the right to change any flight, at anytime, and as long as they offer you another, you are SOL as to the time etc.

It's this sort of outstanding customer service that always breaks my heart when another airline goes bankrupt...

[Mock Cockpit]

It's this sort of outstanding customer service that always breaks my heart when another airline goes bankrupt...

I silently pray for the day Quntas goes tits-up even though it's gonna make my old man blow a gasket.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

It's this sort of outstanding customer service that always breaks my heart when another airline goes bankrupt...

I silently pray for the day Quntas goes tits-up even though it's gonna make my old man blow a gasket.

I second that. I want all the airlines to go belly-up.
When I was a kid, we were all supposed to have our own jet packs to get around by now...I betcha it's a fucken conspiracy by the airlines, petrol companies and CI-fucking-A that stopped us from ever being able to do it...

[yanpa]

When I was a kid, we were all supposed to have our own jet packs to get around by now...I betcha it's a fucken conspiracy by the airlines, petrol companies and CI-fucking-A that stopped us from ever being able to do it...

What, you *don't* have your own jet pack? I guess you never got the memo then.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

When I was a kid, we were all supposed to have our own jet packs to get around by now...I betcha it's a fucken conspiracy by the airlines, petrol companies and CI-fucking-A that stopped us from ever being able to do it...

What, you *don't* have your own jet pack? I guess you never got the memo then.

Ripped off....I'd rather not have a jet pack than have to receive memos, though.
Orifice work is bullshite!!!!!!!!!

[Samurai_Jerk]

I used to be able to fly to any major US city for about 60,000 yen in the off season and maybe 80,000 during the high season. And that was only about 10 years ago.

[Coligny]

I used to be able to fly to any major US city for about 60,000 yen in the off season and maybe 80,000 during the high season. And that was only about 10 years ago.

If Greji was still posting we'd also know how much the steam ocean liners were...

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

If Greji was still posting we'd also know how much the steam ocean liners were...

Didn't he get here by trireme?

[Samurai_Jerk]

If Greji was still posting we'd also know how much the steam ocean liners were...

Didn't he get here by trireme?

Come on now, don't exaggerate at the old man's expense. He arrived on a whaling ship shortly after Perry opened the place up.

[Mike Oxlong]

If Greji was still posting we'd also know how much the steam ocean liners were...

Didn't he get here by trireme?

Come on now, don't exaggerate at the old man's expense. He arrived on a whaling ship shortly after Perry opened the place up.

Shit, I thought Greji was just a pseudonym for Ranald MacDonald.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Shit, I thought Greji was just a pseudonym for Ranald MacDonald.

Known in Japan as "Danald MacDonald".

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Known in Japan as "Danald MacDonald".

Isn't that the name of Mickey Mouse's sociopath mate?

[canman]

Sorry to bring life to a long forgotten thread, but I just read that as of February, airlines are going to start to impose the fuel surcharge again. Even though the price of oil has remained fairly low, those bloodsuckers just can't wait. I guess they figure with the new OPEC agreement it will only be a matter of time until the price skyrockets and we will get screwed again by everybody. God I hate airlines! And Abe, just wanted to throw that in!

[wuchan]

Sorry to bring life to a long forgotten thread, but I just read that as of February, airlines are going to start to impose the fuel surcharge again. Even though the price of oil has remained fairly low, those bloodsuckers just can't wait. I guess they figure with the new OPEC agreement it will only be a matter of time until the price skyrockets and we will get screwed again by everybody. God I hate airlines! And Abe, just wanted to throw that in!

it never got any cheaper....

[wagyl]

Canman: I'm assuming that you fly out of Narita or Haneda. How many kilometres is it from Hachinohe to those airports? How much does it cost per kilometre? Then, how much does it cost per kilometre to travel very fast through the air? Who are the bloodsuckers?

[canman]

Wagyl, I understand what you mean, but the price of oil hasn't gone up yet, and who knows what the non-opec nations will do, will they keep their oil output? How about shale oil and dirty oil from Canada, will more of that come back into the market. The least they could do is wait and see. For the past three quarters if I'm not mistaken they have posted record profits, so its not like they are on the verge of bankruptcy. That is my only point.