Windows 8 - holy cow!!!

[yanpa]

I'm just playing about with Windows 8 to see what all the fuss is about... all I can think is that the people who came up with it were on some kind of drugs and the graphics designers having flashbacks to the era of DOS applications and Windows 3.1 while the UI designers were channelling trippy ideas about weird mouse tricks for essential functions.

I'm sure there are all kinds of short cuts and magic spots to hover the mouse or whatever but to me it seems they've managed to dumb things down and make it weirdly complicated at the same time.

Does anyone actually like this?

[Taro Toporific]

Windows 8...Does anyone actually like this?

Nope.

(I wasted 20 min. trying to find the Windoze Start button last Saturday on a new company computer---There isn't any.)

[yanpa]

I had heard about the missing start button (and am aware there are 3rd party substitutes available)... but it took me long enough to work out how to shut the damn thing down...

[yanpa]

Aha, some tips on how to use the basic functionality which is cunningly hidden in non-obvious places:

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/13 ... he-desktop

Now, if I wave the mouse around on the right-hand edge of the "Start" screen (the one with the hyperactive tile thingies), a side menu thingy pops up with a Windows icon in the middle labelled "Start", which puts you into the normal desktop. What the fuck is the logic behind that?

Aaaannd... guess where the shutdown button is? In "Settings". Doh. Obvious, innit.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I'm just playing about with Windows 8 to see what all the fuss is about... all I can think is that the people who came up with it were on some kind of drugs and the graphics designers having flashbacks to the era of DOS applications and Windows 3.1 while the UI designers were channelling trippy ideas about weird mouse tricks for essential functions.

I'm sure there are all kinds of short cuts and magic spots to hover the mouse or whatever but to me it seems they've managed to dumb things down and make it weirdly complicated at the same time.

Does anyone actually like this?

I haven't checked out Windows 8 yet so I can't comment but what you described is the same way I felt the first time I used a Mac. I still don't have much experience with Macs so I find them more confusing than a machine with Windows since that's what I'm used to. My guess is it's the same deal with Windows 8.

[Coligny]

I haven't checked out Windows 8 yet so I can't comment but what you described is the same way I felt the first time I used a Mac. I still don't have much experience with Macs so I find them more confusing than a machine with Windows since that's what I'm used to. My guess is it's the same deal with Windows 8.

Hello, My name is Samurai Jerk, and I have jack-fuck understanding of user interface and ergonomy...

The Mac interface has been refined over the decades with help of psychologist and behaviour specialist. All the rules were initially codified in the "Inside Mac" series of books.

The windows interface is usually designed by either giving crayons and a white walled cell to a patient in an insane asylum or to a monkey in the same room after being forced to eat said crayons.

Being used to the windows interface is what psychologist call the Stockholm syndrome.

RULES #1 when you use a Mac product to find a feature:
Search where it would be logic to have put it.

RULES #1 when using windows to find a feature:
Search for the last place were it shouldn't be anyway. Especially not in the place where it was on the previous version.
(this do not apply for some modules like user management who judging by their icons have not been updated since Windows NT 3.5)

[matsuki]

I was an early adopter and took a good week of using it to adjust but I do think it's an improvement. (though I don't like the full screen apps like SKYPE on my PC) You need to think of it as a smartphone layout and you'll get used to it quicker. My fav thing about it is my internet d/l and u/l speeds have increased significantly. My only real complaint is shutdown...and my solution is ctrl-alt-delete and right click on the bottom right for shutdown.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I just got a new notebook with Windows 8. Not because I wanted Windows 8 but because I got a good deal on this particular computer. Though I don't think it's quite as bad as people are saying the interface does suck. I still think the main issue is that people aren't used to it. It only took me 5 minutes or so to figure out how to turn it off. I must be a genius.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I haven't checked out Windows 8 yet so I can't comment but what you described is the same way I felt the first time I used a Mac. I still don't have much experience with Macs so I find them more confusing than a machine with Windows since that's what I'm used to. My guess is it's the same deal with Windows 8.

Hello, My name is Samurai Jerk, and I have jack-fuck understanding of user interface and ergonomy...

The Mac interface has been refined over the decades with help of psychologist and behaviour specialist. All the rules were initially codified in the "Inside Mac" series of books.

The windows interface is usually designed by either giving crayons and a white walled cell to a patient in an insane asylum or to a monkey in the same room after being forced to eat said crayons.

Being used to the windows interface is what psychologist call the Stockholm syndrome.

I just saw this. Spoken like a true Kool-Aid-drinking Apple fanboy.

[Coligny]

I just saw this. Spoken like a true Kool-Aid-drinking Apple fanboy.

Or someone who actually care aboot ergonomy... (fanboy is th3 new godwin)

[Samurai_Jerk]

I just saw this. Spoken like a true Kool-Aid-drinking Apple fanboy.

Or someone who actually care aboot ergonomy... (fanboy is th3 new godwin)

Don't you know that whenever you mention Godwin's law you've already lost the argument?

[Coligny]

I thought it was only when i had to make a diversion with bowel movement metaphors....

[wuchan]

If you have a MSN email expect pr0n spam every time you turn on your computer...

[Coligny]

If you have a MSN email expect pr0n spam every time you turn on your computer...

you mean hotmail ? D00d that's the best feature...

[matsuki]

If you have a MSN email expect pr0n spam every time you turn on your computer...

How can you not have one? Just like Gmail to Android, Microsoft has done the same for Win8. Probably my least fav. change to windows.