another GAIJIN robbery ...same GAIJIN?

[univerman666]

東京・港区で12日、住宅に2人組の外国人の男が押し入り、70代の女性の両手を縛りました。
12日午後2時45分ごろ、港区南青山の住宅の居間で、この家に住む男性が帰宅したところ、70代の妻が両手を縛られているのを見つけ、警視庁に通報しました。女性にけがはありません。警視庁によりますと、突然、玄関から外国人の男2人が押し入ってきて、「すみません、すみません」と言いながら女性をひもで縛ったということです。
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8IQCX9Kcgk
http://news.tv-asahi.co.jp/news_society ... 07055.html
外国人とみられる男2人が住宅に押し入り、女性をひものようなもので縛り、いすに座らせたうえ、女性のかばんの中などを物色した
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unjfMlzGq8Q
http://www.fnn-news.com/news/headlines/ ... 47883.html

GAIJIN robbers broke into a house in minatoku, they said
'SUMIMASEN,SUMIMASEN スミマセン スミマセン',while binding to a chair 70 year old granny's arms and legs
with rope.
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not again, GAIJIN robbers in minami aoyama...
these chain of GAIJIN crimes are committed by the same GAIJIN?
scary..

6/7
J-Police release CCTV images of GAIJIN robbers who stole Y22mln from minatoku antique shop owner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uQVxtO6FEU
http://news.tbs.co.jp/20130611/newseye/ ... 55559.html
http://news.tv-asahi.co.jp/news_society ... 06991.html

http://www.keishicho.metro.tokyo.jp/jik ... asaka3.htm
http://sankei.jp.msn.com/images/news/13 ... 020-p1.jpg

http://sankei.jp.msn.com/images/news/13 ... 020-p2.jpg
http://www.jiji.com/news/kiji_photos/0130611at43_p.jpg

●If you recognize these GAIJIN Criminals, call 110 or 03-3475-0110 (akasaka police)
●匿名通報ダイヤル
call anonymously　
0120-924-839
web form anonymously
http://www.tokumei24.jp/report/

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

[Yokohammer]

Can we just ban this abusive piece of shit?
He already makes extensive use of the net to spew racist venom, I don't see any reason to give him yet another platform.

[Coligny]

Can we just ban this abusive piece of shit?
He already makes extensive use of the net to spew racist venom, I don't see any reason to give hime yet another platform.

Frack, now I agree with the plump guy and his midlife crisis Beemer...

More seriously...

I think we are reaching the same conclusion on the value of this newcomer...

[Yokohammer]

Frack, now I agree with the plump guy and his midlife crisis Beemer...

Admit it ... you're just jealous.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Can we just ban this abusive piece of shit?
He already makes extensive use of the net to spew racist venom, I don't see any reason to give hime yet another platform.

Frack, now I agree with the plump guy and his midlife crisis Beemer...

So kind of like you but with a better car?

[Coligny]

Still cranky from that night on the couch eh...

Edit: couch not coach...

[legion]

I dunno, if she wants to spend her time posting news relevant to foreigners more power to her elbow

pays to be informed, otherwise I might think the omawari san giving me the eye while I wait to cross the road might actually fancy me

[Coligny]

I dunno, if she wants to spend her time posting news relevant to foreigners more power to her elbow

pays to be informed, otherwise I might think the omawari san giving me the eye while I wait to cross the road might actually fancy me

Biased news reported to make a statement. Against the community prime user of this forum.

Don't make it sound like a neutral reporting. These posting are really on the edge between trolling and worse.

Since this account only post for such news. It's a perfect case for ban. Not a ban against the person, but a ban against the behaviour. (Unlike for Mc Tojo, where the containement clearly restrict his right to be a perfect and genuine lunatic...)

[Yokohammer]

Also, this person never participates in conversations, responds to questions, or interacts with the forum in any way.

He simply makes anti-foreigner posts and runs. Then the next time he starts a new thread and repeats.

Therefore he's not a participating member, just a spammer.

Ban.

[Russell]

Also, this person never participates in conversations, responds to questions, or interacts with the forum in any way.

He simply makes anti-foreigner posts and runs. Then the next time he starts a new thread and repeats.

Therefore he's not a participating member, just a spammer.

Ban.

I was inclined to restrict him to Beyond Fucked, but after your post I agree that he should be banned. Indeed, he never participates in conversations, that is the main point.

[yanpa]

theoretically a ban is in place already

[matsuki]

I dunno, if she wants to spend her time posting news relevant to foreigners more power to her elbow

pays to be informed, otherwise I might think the omawari san giving me the eye while I wait to cross the road might actually fancy me

This is kinda where I sit...the poster isn't really interacting other than posting in typical troll fashion but the news posted is actually relevant (despite the poster bias) They ain't mass posing either so it's not really ban worthy IMO. Let them keep posting and let us dissect what's posted.

[Yokohammer]

I dunno, if she wants to spend her time posting news relevant to foreigners more power to her elbow

pays to be informed, otherwise I might think the omawari san giving me the eye while I wait to cross the road might actually fancy me

This is kinda where I sit...the poster isn't really interacting other than posting in typical troll fashion but the news posted is actually relevant (despite the poster bias) They ain't mass posing either so it's not really ban worthy IMO. Let them keep posting and let us dissect what's posted.

The problem is with the intent.
Try googling the OP's name and see what you come up with.
You'll soon see that he's just using FG.com as another platform (one of many) to spread inflammatory racist spam.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I dunno, if she wants to spend her time posting news relevant to foreigners more power to her elbow

pays to be informed, otherwise I might think the omawari san giving me the eye while I wait to cross the road might actually fancy me

This is kinda where I sit...the poster isn't really interacting other than posting in typical troll fashion but the news posted is actually relevant (despite the poster bias) They ain't mass posing either so it's not really ban worthy IMO. Let them keep posting and let us dissect what's posted.

Agreed.

[matsuki]

I dunno, if she wants to spend her time posting news relevant to foreigners more power to her elbow

pays to be informed, otherwise I might think the omawari san giving me the eye while I wait to cross the road might actually fancy me

This is kinda where I sit...the poster isn't really interacting other than posting in typical troll fashion but the news posted is actually relevant (despite the poster bias) They ain't mass posing either so it's not really ban worthy IMO. Let them keep posting and let us dissect what's posted.

The problem is with the intent.
Try googling the OP's name and see what you come up with.
You'll soon see that he's just using FG.com as another platform (one of many) to spread inflammatory racist spam.

Yeah, I've seen his posts elsewhere but the news he's posting is totally FG relevant...and he isn't trolling after the fact, leaving it to us to discuss ourselves without a troll battle. Just ignore his comments and discuss the actual news...like the fact the J police still haven't been able to catch these oh so intelligent foreign thieves.

[Yokohammer]

I dunno, if she wants to spend her time posting news relevant to foreigners more power to her elbow

pays to be informed, otherwise I might think the omawari san giving me the eye while I wait to cross the road might actually fancy me

This is kinda where I sit...the poster isn't really interacting other than posting in typical troll fashion but the news posted is actually relevant (despite the poster bias) They ain't mass posing either so it's not really ban worthy IMO. Let them keep posting and let us dissect what's posted.

The problem is with the intent.
Try googling the OP's name and see what you come up with.
You'll soon see that he's just using FG.com as another platform (one of many) to spread inflammatory racist spam.

Yeah, I've seen his posts elsewhere but the news he's posting is totally FG relevant...and he isn't trolling after the fact, leaving it to us to discuss ourselves without a troll battle. Just ignore his comments and discuss the actual news...like the fact the J police still haven't been able to catch these oh so intelligent foreign thieves.

I disagree.
I don't understand why you'd want to give someone like this a voice.
The intent is hate speech, and the effect is hate speech.
You end up providing free advertising space for the Zaitokukai.

[matsuki]

I totally understand the guy's intent and I'm with you on that, he's just trying to start trouble with his take on the issue...but the news itself is a legit subject to discuss. Soooo if a mod wants to delete his comment and just edit it down to the link and unbiased summary of the report, I'm all for that. If we go as far as banning the guy though, it won't accomplish much besides making us look like we're trying to ignore the news and he'll probably just make a new account and continue posting anyways.

[Yokohammer]

So you think I should start posting links to news about every crime comitted by Japanese nationals?

Think there'd be enough space? Or hours in the day?

Would you even think that'd be a reasonable thing to do?

[Coligny]

D00d:

●If you recognize these GAIJIN Criminals, call 110 or 03-3475-0110 (akasaka police)
●匿名通報ダイヤル
call anonymously　
0120-924-839
web form anonymously
http://www.tokumei24.jp/report/

It's not aboot the news, it's a call for delation/vigilantism. But, it's ok, we certainly know him, because all of us gaijin criminal know each others ? Right ?

It's like posting news aboot every traffic accident involving a Audi in a V.A.G. Community forum asking to rat out the name of the driver. On topic, yes, on spirit ? NO....

I think my neighbor is a Jew, what's the phone number of the komandantur ?

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Would you even think that'd be a reasonable thing to do?

That would make our irrational insecurity resemble the original poster's....

[matsuki]

So you think I should start posting links to news about every crime comitted by Japanese nationals?

Think there'd be enough space? Or hours in the day?

Would you even think that'd be a reasonable thing to do?

If it was fuckednipponjin.com, indeed.

Seriously though, he's posted this and the that military turd arson story? Not really every crime committed by foreigners. A couple larger stories. If he was posting petty shit, I'd be on the ban-wagon with you.

It's not aboot the news, it's a call for delation/vigilantism. But, it's ok, we certainly know him, because all of us gaijin criminal know each others ? Right ?

It's like posting news aboot every traffic accident involving a Audi in a V.A.G. Community forum asking to rat out the name of the driver. On topic, yes, on spirit ? NO....

I think my neighbor is a Jew, what's the phone number of the komandantur ?

I don't disagree, but rather than ban, simply edit that shit out and leave as just the links and a brief factual description of the incident.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I disagree on a ban and on removing the posts.
By taking either of those steps, we're censoring opinions we don't like. That will fuel hate-mongers, who can point to their message being hidden away.
If you don't like these kinds of posts, ignore them. I'd like to treat them with the disdain they deserve, but that is giving them too much dignity. Let people post and expose their petty, shallow, superficial racism for all to see. Let's not stoop to their level.

[Coligny]

User posted 5 messages, all anti foreigners, don't take part in any conversation, don't reply. This is basically harassment of user... (Earliest form)
Sorry if it might hurts the feeling of "hate mongers" but I don't remember the place being obliged to provide a soapbox for every loony with a keyboard. They are nothing more than biological spambots...
What's next ? Allowing all "p3nis enlarg3ment p1lls" and "cheap vi4gr4" post because some are old or with small dicks so it make it relevant to the forum ?

There is a huge difference between an established user disagreeing with a quorum and some account only used to shit on the carpet. This could be solved with a rule among the line of:
New users can't post at all before posting an message in a newcomer thread to introduce themselves.
New users can't be thread starter before having 20 posts.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

User posted 5 messages, all anti foreigners, don't take part in any conversation, don't reply. This is basically harassment of user... (Earliest form)

You agree with a ban and fair enough. I merely said I disagree. I don't like being told to shut up. I assume others don't either. But there's no obligation to keep anybody's postings, so I'm happy to go on with whatever happens. It's not like I'm entitled to a refund.....

I don't remember the place being obliged to provide a soapbox for every loony with a keyboard. They are nothing more than biological spambots...

What did you just call that kettle?

What's next ? Allowing all "p3nis enlarg3ment p1lls" and "cheap vi4gr4" post because some are old or with small dicks so it make it relevant to the forum ?

Well, as someone who fits both these categories, I'd be quite happy to allow such content, but once again can understand why others might object and am quite happy for this sort of thing not to run...

[Samurai_Jerk]

I don't remember the place being obliged to provide a soapbox for every loony with a keyboard. They are nothing more than biological spambots...

What did you just call that kettle?

Exactly. Coligny is one of the worst offenders on here in terms of personal attacks and stirring up shit, yet he's also usually one of the first to call for someone to be banned. And, by the way, omae mona isn't the only one who's heard that certain members have stopped coming around much because of him.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I don't remember the place being obliged to provide a soapbox for every loony with a keyboard. They are nothing more than biological spambots...

What did you just call that kettle?

Exactly. Coligny is one of the worst offenders on here in terms of personal attacks and stirring up shit, yet he's also usually one of the first to call for someone to be banned. And, by the way, omae mona isn't the only one who's heard that certain members have stopped coming around much because of him.

Personally, apart from annoyance (which comes easily to me) I have nothing against Coligny and am, in fact, glad to see him here (largely because he provides me with a target for unleashing my fierce anti-Europeanism) and thus support his presence, but fully understand why he repulses many. I fear I may have the same effect on others myself, which is another reason why I'm not a great fan of bans.
Still, you're right to point out to Coligny about why he may want to think twice about being such a ban advocate.

[Yokohammer]

One thing that I think people are overlooking about a ban in this case is that the OP, having not expressed any opinions other than the fact that he hates foreigners, has not exactly expressed a desire to even be here and be part of the community. He merely dumps and runs. It's one-sided and underhanded. I have asked him about his opinions on things in both English and Japanese, I believe, but of course no response is forthcoming. That alone, to me, is unacceptable behavior on any forum. Frankly, although I see him hanging around to see what kind of shit he has stirred up, I don't think he'd be particularly perturbed if all of a sudden he was unable to log on one day. Probably expecting it, and amazed that he's still able to post.

So here's the situation: He runs into a room full of foreigners yelling "all foreigners are assholes," and then runs away. Is that OK with you guys? It isn't with me.

Comments about Coligny are a bit out of place in this discussion because Coligny engages and interacts. You might be able to come up with a tenable reason for a Coligny ban (or me, or anyone else), but it certainly wouldn't be the same as the reason for banning drive-by racism.

If we're going to discuss this we should really try to get our arguments all in a line.

And by the way, any argument that goes: "Well, the site is called "Fucked Gaijin" and therefore ..." is bullshit.

[Coligny]

Coligny wrote:I don't remember the place being obliged to provide a soapbox for every loony with a keyboard. They are nothing more than biological spambots...


What did you just call that kettle?

you are missing one criteria...

user interaction.

You are comparing a serial asshole with a 1 way bot...

[Coligny]

Exactly. Coligny is one of the worst offenders on here in terms of personal attacks and stirring up shit, yet he's also usually one of the first to call for someone to be banned. And, by the way, omae mona isn't the only one who's heard that certain members have stopped coming around much because of him.

You DO know that misery loves company ?

And I don't think you are really catching the difference between personnal attack (against persons, -duh- like CST against me or shoko) and reaction triggered by similar behaviour patterns (against ideas/concept/bias or prejudices). Mostly toward bossy behaviour from people having a too big habit of "my way or the highway" but not recognising they are totally outside of their sphere of power/ influence or just that their self centered reality distortion field don't work against mine (more Poe/Lovecraftian based)(the reason why i don't dwell wapanese forums like francejapon for example)...