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"The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby yanpa » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:47 pm

The Grauniad wrote:The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?

Japanese people are more likely to reach 100 years old than anyone else in the world, a fact that some researchers attribute to their diet. So, are they right – and is eating tofu and squid the place to start?

Can you eat your way to a century? I am not referring to test cricketers, I'm talking about the Japanese diet. Or the Sardinian diet. Or the Ikarian diet. Or any one of half a dozen regional, usually traditional, ways of eating that have been credited with keeping an improbable proportion of their populations alive beyond the age of 100.

Last week, the oldest man ever on record, Jiroemon Kimura, from Kyotango near Kyoto, passed away at the age of 116. His death, and the fact that the new record holder, 115-year-old Misao Okawa, is from Osaka, reminded us that the Japanese know a trick or two when it comes to living beyond 100. According to the UN they have the greatest proportion of centenarians in the world – and a great deal of that knowhow concerns diet.

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(I dunno, from the summary it sounds like the Kansai diet would be a better choice :twisted: )


Also: Tokyo's traditional diet
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:55 pm

Why the fuck would I want to live to a hundred? Another 60+ years of this misery would make me look forward to Hell where I would most certainly be headed if it actually existed.
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby Screwed-down Hairdo » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:22 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Why the fuck would I want to live to a hundred? Another 60+ years of this misery would make me look forward to Hell where I would most certainly be headed if it actually existed.


I'm with you....I'm healthier now than at any time in my life. I eat properly, exercise regularly, fuck almost daily, maintain a relatively healthy weight and low stress. But since I stopped smoking, drinking and fucking around, I've never been so miserable in all my life. It's been an absolutely torturous 20 minutes.
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby Coligny » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:01 pm

Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Why the fuck would I want to live to a hundred? Another 60+ years of this misery would make me look forward to Hell where I would most certainly be headed if it actually existed.


I'm with you....I'm healthier now than at any time in my life. I eat properly, exercise regularly, fuck almost daily, maintain a relatively healthy weight and low stress. But since I stopped smoking, drinking and fucking around, I've never been so miserable in all my life. It's been an absolutely torturous 20 minutes.



I thought the myth of the 100yo japanese was dead and buried when they started uncovering mummies and the linked insurance scams...
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby Mike Oxlong » Thu Jun 20, 2013 6:21 pm

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Samurai_Jerk wrote:Why the fuck would I want to live to a hundred? Another 60+ years of this misery would make me look forward to Hell where I would most certainly be headed if it actually existed.


I'm with you....I'm healthier now than at any time in my life. I eat properly, exercise regularly, fuck almost daily, maintain a relatively healthy weight and low stress. But since I stopped smoking, drinking and fucking around, I've never been so miserable in all my life. It's been an absolutely torturous 20 minutes.



I thought the myth of the 100yo japanese was dead and buried when they started uncovering mummies and the linked insurance scams...

Yes, it is dead, but not quite buried. I used to drink with one of the authors until he moved to Hawaii recently. He said the records were generally not backed up by the interviews he and colleagues conducted...
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Jun 20, 2013 7:18 pm

Could you elaborate, MO?
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby J.A.F.O » Fri Jun 21, 2013 12:52 am

Lewis Black - Rules of Enragement

Jump to the 13:33 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u60vd_yj3yw
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:28 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Could you elaborate, MO?

Apparently many claims of living centenarians turn out to be false when records are available to verify. Also, several locals have told me the pension scams seen on mainland Japan could never happen here with the special local culture of revering ancestors. Said author also mentioned having seen evidence to the contrary - that such scams occur here too. It is also true that Okinawa has lost its place as top in Japan for longevity. Men are halfway or so down the list, women near the top but slipping.
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby matsuki » Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:44 am

Coligny wrote:
Screwed-down Hairdo wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:Why the fuck would I want to live to a hundred? Another 60+ years of this misery would make me look forward to Hell where I would most certainly be headed if it actually existed.


I'm with you....I'm healthier now than at any time in my life. I eat properly, exercise regularly, fuck almost daily, maintain a relatively healthy weight and low stress. But since I stopped smoking, drinking and fucking around, I've never been so miserable in all my life. It's been an absolutely torturous 20 minutes.



I thought the myth of the 100yo japanese was dead and buried when they started uncovering mummies and the linked insurance scams...


THIS....and the last FG conducted study I read attributed the legit cases of garapagosu tortises here to genetics....and the qty in Okinawa to inbreeding. That being said, I would agree fish/seafood used to be one of the healthiest diets and probably could help you live longer. Used to be...with all the shit in fish/seafood these days (especially Japan) most modern countries warn everyone to limit consumption.
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby JAVGOD » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:10 pm

Okinawa diet has been replaced by the Guam Head-kick juice only diet.
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:55 pm

She made it to 117.

World's oldest person dies at 117 in Japan

The world's oldest person, Misao Okawa, died in Japan on Wednesday, a month after celebrating her 117th birthday.

The nursing home where she lived in Osaka said she breathed her last around 7am (2200 GMT Tuesday).

On the occasion of her birthday early last month, Okawa, a mother of three, grandmother of four and great-grandmother of six, was one of only a handful of people still alive who had been born in the 19th century.

Her birth on March 5, 1898 predated the Wright brothers' first powered human flight by five years, she was already a teenager when World War I broke out and in her 70s by the time of the first moon landing.

When she turned 114, she was officially recognised by Guinness World Records as the oldest woman in the globe.
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:30 am

I just found this interesting interview with Okawa done several months before she died :wink:

Reflecting on a long life that began at the end of the 19th century, the world’s oldest woman told reporters Monday that she could not be happier that every other human on earth the day she was born is now deceased. “Nothing, not one single thing, gives me more pleasure than knowing anyone who was alive on March 5, 1898—my family, my friends, and even far-off strangers that I never knew existed—is stone-cold dead,” said 116-year-old Misao Okawa, smiling as she observed how all 1.6 billion of the people who were alive the day she came into the world had passed away, one by one, during her remarkable lifespan. “I’m the sole fucking survivor. I’m the longevity queen. I’m the one who stuck it out while everyone else threw themselves on the corpse pile. Man, it’s too bad I’m in a wheelchair or I’d trample every single one of their fucking graves.” Okawa went on to say her only regret is that she probably won’t outlive all her children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren.
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby kurogane » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:34 am

I was going to give a hearty applause to you and then I clicked the link. Hilarious. I wonder if they'd date me?

So, in Okinawa as I am, I was thinking I should go forth and try to find this trumpeted Okinawan Diet, but I settled on searching for the Unicorn Treasure said to be found on the Lost Island of Rakuennoshima. Word has it success is rewarded by a sit down McDonald's Happy Meal dinner with Leonardo DiCappucino followed by ass sex with Hitomi Kuroki, even though she's let herself go a bit.
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Postby inflames » Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:59 pm

kurogane wrote:I was going to give a hearty applause to you and then I clicked the link. Hilarious. I wonder if they'd date me?

So, in Okinawa as I am, I was thinking I should go forth and try to find this trumpeted Okinawan Diet, but I settled on searching for the Unicorn Treasure said to be found on the Lost Island of Rakuennoshima. Word has it success is rewarded by a sit down McDonald's Happy Meal dinner with Leonardo DiCappucino followed by ass sex with Hitomi Kuroki, even though she's let herself go a bit.

I thought the Okinawan diet was eating shit like taco rice and pig's ears combined with consumption of copious amounts of alcohol (orion beer or something made with awamori preferred).

Hitomi Kuroki? I usually refrain from posting about actresses I like as doing so gives away my age....
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby kurogane » Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:32 pm

Yes, that is the Okinawan diet, which is why I am so befuddled by all of this discussion of The Okinawan Diet (w/ all the fanfare and media hype). I realised yesterday how much work it can be to enjoy eating down here.

Hitomi Kuroki was sort of a Joan Collins type sexpot back in the 90s and early 2000s??? Great nipples, but instead of getting a bit of bump meat on her she's gone for that older beauty shrinking into bone rack look. It's a shame because she used to have a righteous little poppable pooper on her, as an ex-Takarazuka dancer. And now it's gone........... :cry2:

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Postby yanpa » Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:09 pm

New York bacon diet works too, apparently: World's oldest person scoffs daily ration of bacon

Meanwhile my old grannie is still doing surprisingly well at 96 despite - or maybe because of - the traditional British working class diet which involves congealed pigs' blood, bits of animals they only used for dogfood and sausages these days, and vegetables boiled mercilessly for hours until all nutrients have been leached into the pan water.
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Postby kurogane » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:18 pm

There is obviously a lot to be said for a poverty diet, which is what they are gussying up as Ancient Wisdumb. If you make it past the first 8 years or so, that is. The situation in Okinawa will be reversed in about 20-30 years and they will become the Scotland of Japan: fat, drunk, dumb and dead at 48. Which is sad for both, as they're both nice enough peoples. I do like the 24h supermarkets, or is that now normal outside of east Kyoto?
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Postby yanpa » Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:17 pm

kurogane wrote:I do like the 24h supermarkets, or is that now normal outside of east Kyoto?

Certainly not unusual, my local Seiyu here in Kichijoji-North (real-estate speak for Nerima South-West) is open 24hrs.
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Postby Wage Slave » Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:25 pm

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kurogane wrote:I do like the 24h supermarkets, or is that now normal outside of east Kyoto?

Certainly not unusual, my local Seiyu here in Kichijoji-North (real-estate speak for Nerima South-West) is open 24hrs.


Yep. likewise here exept it's Max Valu aka Aeon. Not that I ever need it to be.
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Postby kurogane » Thu Dec 17, 2015 10:55 pm

Roger. It's the old East Kyoto Chamber of Commerce crapola then (Marutamachi-Higashi Oji area, FYI). They might have a few now, I didn't really look last year. The Max Valu Aeon ones in the plebbier parts west are 24 hrs. It is pretty pointless for me most of the time too, but they do beeyotchin' fried chicken so on the way home from the bar it's nice, coz the ramen down here sucks poopoo.
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Postby Russell » Thu Dec 17, 2015 11:16 pm

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yanpa wrote:
kurogane wrote:I do like the 24h supermarkets, or is that now normal outside of east Kyoto?

Certainly not unusual, my local Seiyu here in Kichijoji-North (real-estate speak for Nerima South-West) is open 24hrs.


Yep. likewise here exept it's Max Valu aka Aeon. Not that I ever need it to be.

Here in Hyogo it's also Max Value. Very convenient.
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Postby inflames » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:35 am

Russell wrote:
Wage Slave wrote:
yanpa wrote:
kurogane wrote:I do like the 24h supermarkets, or is that now normal outside of east Kyoto?

Certainly not unusual, my local Seiyu here in Kichijoji-North (real-estate speak for Nerima South-West) is open 24hrs.


Yep. likewise here exept it's Max Valu aka Aeon. Not that I ever need it to be.

Here in Hyogo it's also Max Value. Very convenient.

In Osaka we have a choice of Max Value or Tamade. Life still isn't open 24 hours but some of them are open like 7:00 AM to 2:00 AM.

Those are reasonable reasons for liking Hitomi Kuroki - one of my friends likes Iyo Matsumoto for her music apparently, which I find pretty fucking terrible.
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Re: "The Okinawa diet – could it help you live to 100?"

Postby matsuki » Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:14 am

11pm is the latest local suuupaaa for me. Most close at 8pm....but there is always 7-11 in a pinch
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:20 am

Got Seiyu and Maruetsu going 24/7 in my area.
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Postby matsuki » Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:51 am

There's a Seiyu not too far away, I should probably be shopping there more as it has a better selection that the shitty (and expensive) CO-OP near me.
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Postby yanpa » Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:11 pm

matsuki wrote:There's a Seiyu not too far away, I should probably be shopping there more as it has a better selection that the shitty (and expensive) CO-OP near me.

Yikes, that would be my local :shock: If the condiments shelves are suddenly bare, I'll know why...
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Postby matsuki » Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:25 pm

Is that why I never see anyone buying the tako?
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Jan 20, 2016 2:16 pm

World’s Oldest Man Yasutaro Koide Dies at Age 112

The world’s oldest man, a Japanese, died Tuesday at the age of 112 after suffering chronic heart problems, officials said.

Yasutaro Koide had said his secret to a long life was not to smoke, drink or overdo it.

Koide, who was born on March 13, 1903, died two months short of his 113th birthday.

In the year he was born, the Wright brothers made their historic first flight in Kitty Hawk, North Carolina, and a modernizing Japan was embroiled in a dispute with Russia over Manchuria that would erupt into the Russo-Japanese War in early 1904.
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Postby Coligny » Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:28 pm

It's not the diet... It's the water...

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