Tohoku Earthquake, Tsunami and Nuclear Disaster!!!

[Taro Toporific]

Stay calm, be cool! No worries....The radiation is not gonna do a thing....
Thank God Japanese don't have kids anymore...

LOOK OUT! There’re giant mutant Fukushima kids on the loose ...with Godzilla!

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[Coligny]

[Steaming reactor3] Tepco “The steam is the heated rain, same thing happened last year but didn’t report it”
JULY 18, 2013, 19:38
from Fukushima Diary by Mochizuki
Following up this article.. Tepco to hold an extraordinary press conference about reactor3 “steam” at the headquarters [URL]



The steam is still coming up at the moment of 16:00 7/18/2013.

In the press conference, Tepco stated the stream is the rain.

Tepco’s spokesman commented the atmospheric temperature is 20℃. The temperature of the top of RPV is approximately 40℃. Rain was heated and the steam was observed.

According to Tepco, the same event happened in July of 2012, but they didn’t report it.

It didn’t last as long as this time last year. It is not verified what caused the difference.

For the question of freelance journalist Kino to ask “Why wasn’t the steam observed in winter”, Tepco replied “Rain flowed to the hottest part by chance.”.

If I was told that one day I would consider that it's ok for a nukaplant to smoke because it's only rain falling on the damaged and more or less exposed reactor...

Btw, damn temp difference... Today it was 37 in toyohashi... And I have yet to see any kind of fucking steam coming from water hitting something barely hotter than a human being while the outside temp is the same as a warm spring in Paris (20) my spiderkitteh sense are telling me someone is bullshitting again...

[Russell]

They only report that the top of the RPV is 40 degrees.

Of course, inside the RPV it is hotter, and since there is water in it, the steam is likely from there.

So yeah, unlikely to be rain.

[yanpa]

Maybe it was special Japanese tsuyu rain.

[Mike Oxlong]

It's all straight out of The Highlander...

[Taro Toporific]

[Steaming reactor3] Tepco “The steam is the heated rain, same thing happened last year but didn’t report it”
JULY 18, 2013, 19:38
from Fukushima Diary by Mochizuki
Following up this article.. Tepco to hold an extraordinary press conference about reactor3 “steam” at the headquarters ..

AGAIN!

More steam reported in crippled Fukushima nuke plant
Agence France-Presse | July 23, 2013
TOKYO -- Workers at the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan have reported steam inside a battered reactor building for the second time in less than a week, the operator said Tuesday.
Steam was seen around the fifth floor of the building housing Reactor No. 3 shortly after 9:00 a.m. (0000 GMT), Tokyo Electric Power Co said, adding workers were continuing with the operation to inject cooling water into the reactor and a pool storing nuclear fuel.
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"Nothin' here, just a little 'steam'..."

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[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Kettle's boiling...it's smoko.

[wagyl]

Kettle's boiliing...it's smoko.

Cobber! I haven't heard the word smoko in yonks!

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Cobber! I haven't heard the word smoko in yonks!

Say it heaps, mate. Used it loads of times this week...Dead set beauty, it is. Choice. Sick. Deadly. Grouse.

[wagyl]

Stay calm, be cool! No worries....The radiation is not gonna do a thing....

Thank God Japanese don't have kids anymore...

CNN had that same story on their website last night. Scary but the source is a Korean blog.

The original link says: "With all the reports of raised levels of radiation, not only in Japan, but in the US as well" which is irrational scaremongering and does not endear the website in question as a reliable source. Where was the mutant produce found? In what time periods? Enquiring minds wish to know.

That rarity in the modern world, a retraction.
Anybody having experience with plants knows that those things happen naturally. The smiling faces of the growers was a bit of a clue too.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

That rarity in the modern world, a retraction.

You think I'm gonna believe a admission of lying when I can see with my own eyes what the radiation up there is doing to food and shite?

[yanpa]

Stay calm, be cool! No worries....The radiation is not gonna do a thing....

Thank God Japanese don't have kids anymore...

CNN had that same story on their website last night. Scary but the source is a Korean blog.

The original link says: "With all the reports of raised levels of radiation, not only in Japan, but in the US as well" which is irrational scaremongering and does not endear the website in question as a reliable source. Where was the mutant produce found? In what time periods? Enquiring minds wish to know.

That rarity in the modern world, a retraction.
Anybody having experience with plants knows that those things happen naturally. The smiling faces of the growers was a bit of a clue too.

Thanks. You'd almost think this Yanpa guy is a bit skeptical about the state of journalism, especially when it pertains to dramatic, controversial events.

[yanpa]

That rarity in the modern world, a retraction.

You think I'm gonna believe a admission of lying when I can see with my own eyes what the radiation up there is doing to food and shite?

I don't want to see any pictures of mutant shite, thanks.

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I don't want to see any pictures of mutant shite, thanks.

If it's any consolation, it'd probably be pizza-flavored....Cowabunga!

(Please don't tell me the only shite you're interested in is Teutonic....)

[wagyl]

Thanks. You'd almost think this Yanpa guy is a bit skeptical about the state of journalism, especially when it pertains to dramatic, controversial events.

Pray tell, is there any journalism which does not pertain to dramatic, controversial events?

Yanpa's cynicism and scepticism were noted at the time. The thread was quoted in full for completeness, and I apologise if this lead to confusion in the reader*.

* standard "if" conditional apology, combined with directing blame back on the audience.

[Coligny]

Meanwhile in Tepcokystan:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-23/f ... ic/4836670

They might even admit that earth is round and rehabilitate Galileo before the end of the year...

[Samurai_Jerk]

That really is out of character for a Korean blogger to post bullshit about Japan.

[Russell]

Prosecutors unlikely to indict Kan, ex-TEPCO execs over Fukushima

Japanese prosecutors are unlikely to indict former Prime Minister Naoto Kan, utility executives or regulators over their handling of the 2011 Fukushima nuclear crisis, rejecting complaints filed over the world’s worst atomic disaster since Chernobyl, the Asahi newspaper reported.

The reported decision comes as Fukushima plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) struggles to contain highly radioactive water that is pouring out from the tsunami-wrecked plant, prompting the government to step in to try to help with the clean-up.

Prosecutors had questioned Kan, who was prime minister when a massive earthquake and tsunami hit northeast Japan on March 11, 2011, as well as probing possible professional negligence of others including then-TEPCO President Masataka Shimizu, the newspaper said on Friday.

The massive quake and tsunami caused reactor meltdowns at the plant, spewing radiation and forcing 160,000 people to flee their homes, many never to return.

The complaints were filed by citizens affected by the disaster, the paper said.

Prosecutors judged, however, that it was difficult to prove that the accused could have predicted such a big earthquake and tsunami as well as to establish a causal relationship between the nuclear disaster and deaths and injuries among evacuees. A formal decision by the prosecutors is likely as early as this month, the Asahi said.

[Coligny]

Prosecutors judged, however, that it was difficult to prove that the accused could have predicted such a big earthquake and tsunami as well as to establish a causal relationship between the nuclear disaster and deaths and injuries among evacuees. A formal decision by the prosecutors is likely as early as this month, the Asahi said.

I know, nobody cares aboot France and the French legal system...

But we have special clause "Duty of caution" (read, if you don't know if safe or not you have to assume the worse and act as much as possible to protect populations)
And a special Court of Law the "Law court of the Republic" with special powers to prosecute public official failing at their duty (to run the country or protect the population)
Lots of its form and functions todays come from the scandal of the tainted blood in the early 90'.

Had this system been in place in 86, Sarkozy would certainly be somewhere rotting in a jail.
If Japan had a legal system, instead of this feodal farce... Chokonen would have met a lot of really famous people during his stint in the brig...

(yeah, yeah, panic, panic, peepee mah pants yadda yadda... at least I don't have to sing myself a song aboot everything being fine and dandy to wake up in the morning or sleep at night)

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

I know, nobody cares aboot France and the French legal system...

But we have special clause "Duty of caution" (read, if you don't know if safe or not you have to assume the worse and act as much as possible to protect populations)
And a special Court of Law the "Law court of the Republic" with special powers to prosecute public official failing at their duty (to run the country or protect the population)
Lots of its form and functions todays come from the scandal of the tainted blood in the early 90'.

Coligny, you panic too much. You should sing a song to yourself about everything being fine and dandy. It will certainly help you wake up in the mornings and get to sleep at night....

[Coligny]

Unpossible, the clowns under my bed are just waiting for this to come out and rape me...

(This is where you realize that bunk bed actually do really sucks... Moar space for moar clowns)

[Russell]

In North Asia, a growing crisis of confidence in nuclear power

A nuclear power plant in Taiwan may have been leaking radioactive water for three years, the government has said, adding to a growing crisis of confidence in North Asia about nuclear safety.

[...]

Nuclear power has long been used as a reliable alternative to fossil fuels in natural resource-starved parts of Asia like Japan, Taiwan and South Korea, but the safety worries are forcing a rethink. A plan to build Taiwan’s fourth nuclear plant has been held up for years by street protests and a brawl in the legislature over safety issues. Most nuclear plants in Japan remain closed and nine of South Korea’s reactors have been shut down, six for maintenance and three to replace cables that were supplied using forged certificates.

Taiwan’s government watchdog, the Control Yuan, said The First Nuclear Power Plant, located at Shihmen in a remote northern coastal location but not far from densely populated Taipei, has been leaking toxic water from storage pools of two reactors.

An official of Taiwan Power Co (Taipower), which operates the island’s nuclear power plants, said the water did not come from the storage pools, but may have come from condensation or water used for cleaning up the floor.

“We have explained to the Control Yuan, but they turned it down. They asked us to look into if other causes were involved,” said the official. He declined to be identified as the matter is sensitive.

In any case, the water has been collected in a reservoir next to the storage pools used for spent nuclear rods and has been recycled back into the storage pools, and so poses no threat to the environment, the official added.

The Control Yuan said there had been a catalogue of errors, including a lack of a proper plan for how to handle spent nuclear materials, and did not believe the explanations from Taipower.

“The company has yet to clearly establish the reason for the water leak,” it said.

The use of nuclear power on resource-poor Taiwan has long been controversial, not least because the island is comparatively small and any major nuclear accident would likely affect its entire land area.

Taiwanese activists have seized on the 2011 meltdown of Japan’s Fukushima nuclear plant to push for a stop to nuclear power on the island.

Highly radioactive water from the Fukushima plant is pouring out at a rate of 300 tons a day, officials said this week, prompting Prime Minister Shinzo Abe to order the government to step in and help in the clean-up.

The revelation amounted to an acknowledgement that plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO) has yet to come to grips with the scale of the catastrophe, 2 1/2 years after the earthquake and tsunami. TEPCO only recently admitted water had leaked at all.

[...]

Japanese prosecutors are unlikely to indict former prime minister Naoto Kan, utility executives or regulators over their handling of the Fukushima nuclear crisis, rejecting complaints filed over the world’s worst atomic disaster since Chernobyl, the Asahi newspaper reported on Friday.

[...]

In South Korea, six reactors are currently closed - three for maintenance or expiry of operational approval, and the other three to replace cables supplied with forged documents.

Prosecutors are conducting a massive investigation into flawed nuclear reactors, arresting dozens of officials and parts makers on bribery and forgery charges in relation to falsified safety certificates.

Those arrested include the former the CEO of the state-run Korea Hydro & Nuclear Power that runs all the country’s nuclear plants, who faces bribery charges.

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One may say whatever one wants about South-Korea, but it appears there is a little more accountability than in Japan...

[Coligny]

Leave the army in charge of these kettles, they have much better track record than 40th level toothless illiterate subcontractors.
and stop trying to believe they can make a profit.

Problem partially solved...

(Just for simple accountability, has it been like in any navy, losing 3 reactors in Daichi even if the pacha was in maternal leave would have been an "end of career level" event... These kind of rules and dishonorable discharge tend to make people much more careful... Especially when they can kiss their retirement pension good bye)

[Mike Oxlong]

Making the FB rounds...

[Coligny]

"Bad dream" photoshoot:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2013/ ... c=obinsite

Saran wrap photography...

[Russell]

Very interesting video of NHK:

Nuclear Watch: Contaminated Water Leaks at Fukushima Daiichi

Seems radioactive substances leaking into the ocean are nearly 20 times higher than reported by TEPCO...

[matsuki]

Very interesting video of NHK:

Nuclear Watch: Contaminated Water Leaks at Fukushima Daiichi

Seems radioactive substances leaking into the ocean are nearly 20 times higher than reported by TEPCO...

TEPCO lying....again? Nooooo

[Coligny]

Don't know what would be the scariest...

Tepco lying, or just not knowing what's going on...

[Russell]

I have been reading some sources also frequented by nuclear scientists, and it appears that it would be a mistake to assume that the situation would become only better from now on.

Problem is the reactors. Nobody knows how those are going to be disposed of in the future. Big problem is reactor 2: experts are still clueless what actually happened with that reactor. It is unknown why it emitted such a large amount of radioactive substances even though there was no explosion.

It will probably be a challenge to keep the coming decades free of nuclear events (think of natural disasters in the area that will almost certainly occur in the span of a few decades).

[Coligny]

Yeah... The whole tally problem... You can't inspect what you can't even really see...