Baiting with your nuts

[Russell]

I spent my evening yesterday to find how to say the word 'diesel'... go, check yourself... the number of words and writings including kanjis is amazing... when there should be only ONE: the name of the (Parisian born BTW) Rudolf Christian Karl Diesel.

Beg your pardon, Coligny, but what is the Kanji for "diesel" again?

[yanpa]

I spent my evening yesterday to find how to say the word 'diesel'... go, check yourself... the number of words and writings including kanjis is amazing... when there should be only ONE: the name of the (Parisian born BTW) Rudolf Christian Karl Diesel.

Pro tip: go to Wikipedia, find the article describing the concept you want, then look for the 日本語 link on the left-hand side, and there is a good chance it will come up with the equivalent Japanese word. E.g. "Diesel_fuel" -> "軽油". Assuming that is the kind of "diesel" you're looking for. If not, the disambiguation page is your friend.

This works for other language combinations too.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I love that kind of answer...

Do I need to be a rubber vulcanisation specialist to tell if tires are crap ?

Do I need an electrical engineering degree to tell if my remote control is broken ?

Do I need to a Phd in fluid dynamics to realize that my loo is clogged ?

Do I need Toefl level brazilion to realize that a language is a clusterfuck ? Do you know how many time some idiots tell me face to face after having a conversation with my wife or mom in law (thinking it was my wife instead) that her French accent was making her japanese too difficult too understand and asked if next time they could speak to a japanese person instead ? How many politician use that trick on a daily basis saying that in their village the sentence have an opposite meaning ?
I spent my evening yesterday to find how to say the word 'diesel'... go, check yourself... the number of words and writings including kanjis is amazing... when there should be only ONE: the name of the (Parisian born BTW) Rudolf Christian Karl Diesel.

So be cute, take your pill for that anger management issue/case of the monday and came back to us as the little ray of sunchine you can be when you put a little effort into it...
(or I ask сука to only feed you cold freeze dried borsch for the next month...)

Yes, I'm the one with the anger management issue.

[Coligny]

Yes, I'm the one with the anger management issue.

I'm much more of a sociopath...

[Screwed-down Hairdo]

Yes, I'm the one with the anger management issue.

I'm much more of a sociopath...

No, I think you're a classic dissociopath.

[Coligny]

I spent my evening yesterday to find how to say the word 'diesel'... go, check yourself... the number of words and writings including kanjis is amazing... when there should be only ONE: the name of the (Parisian born BTW) Rudolf Christian Karl Diesel.

Beg your pardon, Coligny, but what is the Kanji for "diesel" again?

The poulp answered with 軽油 which is "kei yuu" "kei" like for kei jidoosha "yuu" like in toyuu: heating fuel/kerozene

But the solution brought by Yanpa don't solve the problem... Unlike when I was searching for Russian heavy wreckers and couldn't find 1 proper word -thank again сука, still owe you one for this- Here, it's the plethora of half broken wording that make life a living hell
If you are facing an inbred gas attendant and show a little paper with kanjis "軽油" if they are used to say diiiizeruuu instead... written in hiragana... you are still halfway fucked... with a fully empty tank...

(need a move to "coligny must learn japango" thread me think...)
And don't get me started on old books that became unreadable because the kanjis are not used anymore... No matter how old the french pre or post reform(s) is you'll get the meaning in no time (hunting for old metaphores and hyperboles is particularily delightfull... For an easy introduction... anything by Moliere...).

[Coligny]

Yes, I'm the one with the anger management issue.

I'm much more of a sociopath...

No, I think you're a classic dissociopath.

And don't take opinion on these topics from people dismissing Freud. KTHXBYE...

btw you can't use the term 'classic" with a borderline fraudulent classification coined in 2009...

[yanpa]

(need a move to "coligny must learn japango" thread me think...)
And don't get me started on old books that became unreadable because the kanjis are not used anymore... No matter how old the french pre or post reform(s) is you'll get the meaning in no time (hunting for old metaphores and hyperboles is particularily delightfull... For an easy introduction... anything by Moliere...).

Define "old", Mr. Japanese Expert.

[Russell]

I spent my evening yesterday to find how to say the word 'diesel'... go, check yourself... the number of words and writings including kanjis is amazing... when there should be only ONE: the name of the (Parisian born BTW) Rudolf Christian Karl Diesel.

Beg your pardon, Coligny, but what is the Kanji for "diesel" again?

The poulp answered with 軽油 which is "kei yuu" "kei" like for kei jidoosha "yuu" like in toyuu: heating fuel/kerozene

But the solution brought by Yanpa don't solve the problem... Unlike when I was searching for Russian heavy wreckers and couldn't find 1 proper word -thank again сука, still owe you one for this- Here, it's the plethora of half broken wording that make life a living hell
If you are facing an inbred gas attendant and show a little paper with kanjis "軽油" if they are used to say diiiizeruuu instead... written in hiragana... you are still halfway fucked... with a fully empty tank...

(need a move to "coligny must learn japango" thread me think...)
And don't get me started on old books that became unreadable because the kanjis are not used anymore... No matter how old the french pre or post reform(s) is you'll get the meaning in no time (hunting for old metaphores and hyperboles is particularily delightfull... For an easy introduction... anything by Moliere...).

You could also just use ディーゼル. No Kanji involved there...

[Samurai_Jerk]

And don't get me started on old books that became unreadable because the kanjis are not used anymore... No matter how old the french pre or post reform(s) is you'll get the meaning in no time (hunting for old metaphores and hyperboles is particularily delightfull... For an easy introduction... anything by Moliere...).

You mean like if I try to read "Beowulf" in Old English. Or is that different?

[Coligny]

Had a (70yo now deceased) friend in Paris collecting old japanese books, can't tell the precise era at all. It was normal looking books (small handwritten but not scrolls, never paid much attention his stamp collection was much more interesting). But no idea whatsoever beside 'certainly way pre Meiji... maybe...'.

But same as for tires... not because I can't tell the ply name or the thread pattern specs that I can't see the result... I'm not trying to fix the japango... Just noticing that most of the time, that thing is hillariously fucked.

Kanji of the year forgotten next month... and lost at sea, shape and meaning by the end of the decade... Anything written before +800 (AD) pre kana might be as well written in rot13 klingon... Compare that to greek... -900 (BC)... Never felt like "language as a communication tool" was a huge priority in Japan...
At least hieroglyphs looks cool...

[wagyl]

Molière is more recent than Shakespeare, and I would imagine the language is closer to modern French than Shakespearean English is to modern English.

[Coligny]

And don't get me started on old books that became unreadable because the kanjis are not used anymore... No matter how old the french pre or post reform(s) is you'll get the meaning in no time (hunting for old metaphores and hyperboles is particularily delightfull... For an easy introduction... anything by Moliere...).

You mean like if I try to read "Beowulf" in Old English. Or is that different?

Give me a PDF link to an old english version of Beowulf and I'll give it a try... (no copyright on these oldies)... And my google link beowulf to the painfull 99' movie with Christopher Lambert...

[edit] seems to have found a side by side modern/old PDF torrent, so if it's not again a trap with gay porn it might be good for a look...
[edit 2] the old version have easily 2 times the wordcount of the modern version !?

[Coligny]

Molière is more recent than Shakespeare, and I would imagine the language is closer to modern French than Shakespearean English is to modern English.

Yea, but Moliere near entire work is focused on making a buffoon of the king, clergy and courtisan... And he survived...

Also, if my memory serves me right. All his plays are published in old and modern French depending on the age of the student. Junior highschool go with the modern French while highschooler got another go with the original writings.

[Russell]

But, but, don't Japanese kids learn classical Japanese in school in order to understand their forefathers?

[wagyl]

Actually, this 12th Century French looks remarkably readable http://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Tristan_% ... leterre%29
English has changed much more in that period: http://quod.lib.umich.edu/c/cme/Gawain? ... w=fulltext for 14th Century English

[Coligny]

Starting in 1635 with the birth of the Academy Francaise. The language became policed... by cranky old men wearing swords....

And if you wonder why we can make everything by ourselves these days (fastest plane -Concorde-, fastest train -TGV- and fastest car -Bugatti Veyron- in ze world) it might be a bit because our sort of multidiscipline M.I.T. equivalent date back from 1530

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Link...

[Russell]

Fornicate, this thread started on such a delightful light note, and now we're talking literature.

Guys...

.....

Guys?

[Coligny]

Everyone blaming Coligny in 3... 2... 1...

[yanpa]

And if you wonder why we can make everything by ourselves these days (fastest plane -Concorde-)

orly?

Le Concorde est un avion de ligne supersonique construit par l’association de Sud-Aviation (devenue par la suite l’Aérospatiale) et de la British Aircraft Corporation (devenue ensuite British Aerospace).

[Coligny]

Yeah, we had pity, so we let you build the loo...

[yanpa]

Damn, I was hoping it would be the tartan-check interior design. As featured in Britain's very own TGV rival.

[Russell]

Yeah, we had pity, so we let you build the loo...

Tell me again then that it was the British contribution that made the Concorde such a failure...

[Coligny]

Yeah, we had pity, so we let you build the loo...

Tell me again then that it was the British contribution that made the Concorde such a failure...

Overweightg german passenger... (plus the crash was a bit more complicamated than that, it was FOD damage from a lost non spec part from a previous plane)

[Coligny]

Damn, I was hoping it would be the tartan-check interior design. As featured in Britain's very own TGV rival.

I thought Tatchers sold the tracks for scrap metal....

[Isle of View]

This guy heard about the Pacu and couldn't wait to go fishing . . .

[Coligny]

That would explain...

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[wagyl]

Excellent comments, as always, on this topic at el Reg.

Of course, they all trot out the lies from the Daily Fail's source, an on-line only "entertaining blend of daily news, business and features" for the expat community in Sweden fuckedfrämling.com, that this is the first found in European waters, when the Danish Natural History Museum original source for all this tomfollery specifically mentions the Odra River in Poland.

[Russell]

But you'll have to admit that the giant carps story is based on the truth, and nothing but the truth...

[wagyl]

But you'll have to admit that the giant carps story is based on the truth, and nothing but the truth...

A hard truth. Well, semi-hard, maybe.

The lesbian atheist scientists story was rock hard truth.