3 FG arrested for filming pet food

[Taro Toporific]

Japanese Police Arrest Eco-Activists Filming Dolphin Roundup
ANC / October 6, 2003
Three members of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society have been arrested while using video and still cameras to document a dolphin roundup in Taiji, Japan. The three eco-activists are reportedly being held by Japanese police. Taiji is located on the south part of mainland Japan, near Osaka.
....The slaughters are also seen as a way to eliminate non-human competition for the plummeting fish stocks.... Although dolphin meat is highly toxic with industrial pollution, it can be passed as prized whale meat and sold on the open market. Other dolphin products include pet food and fertilizer.

[kurohinge1]

WOW! They actually arrested those 'invading' aliens with those 'intrusive' video cameras! Well, they must've gotten in the way and held up the honorable pet food production line or something. I mean they had to do something like that as the police wouldn't just arrest them for shooting some little home videos, would they?

The three Sea Shepherd members reportedly called the local Japanese police themselves, but were then arrested.

I'm guessing they didn't finish first in their commando-documentary-making class.

The reason for the arrest is still unclear.

Possibly Article 1002384 of the Japanese Criminal code (or something similar): The nail that sticks out shall be hammered down

[japslapper]

I saw those exact dolphins the day before the cull ,about 30 of them netted into the culling bay and had wondered if it would be interesting to get up early and watch the slaughter - thankfully I overslept (The police would have been suprised by me......first human bones then dolphins )

......and Taiji has high forrested mountains surrounding the narrow culling inlet so is very easy to hide a camerman and not get spotted.

[devicenull]

greenpeace and peta fuckers should just be mixed into the petfood mix next time. they irritate me oh so much.

[Caustic Saint]

Even though I've read the first post, the topic title makes me think somebody got arrested for taking pictures in a store. For some reason the large retail chains in Korea all have "no camera" or "no photo" signs at the entrance.

Like the products or their merchandising methods are some huge secret? Cameraphones make the idea moot anyway.

[Taro Toporific]

Even though I've read the first post, the topic title makes me think somebody got arrested for taking pictures in a store. For some reason the large retail chains in Korea all have "no camera" or "no photo" signs at the entrance.

Like the products or their merchandising methods are some huge secret? Cameraphones make the idea moot anyway.

As the Lord Pongi will tell you, that's a JAPANESE store policy that the Koreans copied. (Yet again proving my pet theory that Korea only copies the bad things of Japan.)


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PS: It pains me to say anything in support of arse-reaming Japanese retailers but all big stores in the States will throw you out for picture taking too.

[Big Booger]

Why not use camera glasses and do all the filming incognito?


'007' style!

Or rather 'Get Smart' style!


Especially for things like this that make Japan look bad...

Sounds like the Japanese are adhering to the the policies of their communist cousins the Chinese.

[japslapper]

Some other FGs associated with the three Greenie FGs arrested by the cops because they were filming iruka slaughter.....have asked me to help (since I am the nearest Japanese speaking FG to Taiji )

They sent me this email

Hello Japslapper

Would you be able to track down the address and telephone number for the Osaka Police? Also the name of the Chief of Police of Investigations.

Thankyou Greenie FG

can anyone of you FGs out there answer the request...

[Taro Toporific]

WOW! They actually arrested those 'invading' aliens with those 'intrusive' video cameras! Well, they must've gotten in the way and held up the honorable pet food production line or something...

Dolphin Slaughter Continues is Taiji, Japan deeperblue.net /
Monday Oct 27, 2003 @ 01:37
.....On October 3rd, some sixty Striped dolphins were rounded up and slaughtered with knives and spears. Nik and his two crewmembers Brooke McDonald of Canada and Morgan Whorwood of Britain disrupted the hunt with their cameras. They were attacked by fishermen and then arrested by local police.

There were no charges and the trio was released. Their continued presence discouraged further dolphin drives until October 23 ....

... On the evening of October 23, Brooke and Morgan departed from Taiji. On October 24, Nik found himself alone in Taiji when the slaughter began. He climbed the cliff to film the slaughter and this resulted in an attack by fishermen who began to hit him with sticks.

He stood them down and at one point challenged any of the fishermen to a duel with kendo swords. These are bamboo swords used for training in the art of Japanese swordsmanship. Nik has been a student of Kendo for some time. "If you want me to leave, I will, if you beat me in a duel. Who's up for it? Which one of you dolphin killers wants to have a one on one with a man and not a defenseless dolphin. Bamboo swords and no armor"

There were no takers ...

[devicenull]

WOW! They actually arrested those 'invading' aliens with those 'intrusive' video cameras! Well, they must've gotten in the way and held up the honorable pet food production line or something...

Dolphin Slaughter Continues is Taiji, Japan deeperblue.net /
Monday Oct 27, 2003 @ 01:37
.....On October 3rd, some sixty Striped dolphins were rounded up and slaughtered with knives and spears. Nik and his two crewmembers Brooke McDonald of Canada and Morgan Whorwood of Britain disrupted the hunt with their cameras. They were attacked by fishermen and then arrested by local police.

There were no charges and the trio was released. Their continued presence discouraged further dolphin drives until October 23 ....

... On the evening of October 23, Brooke and Morgan departed from Taiji. On October 24, Nik found himself alone in Taiji when the slaughter began. He climbed the cliff to film the slaughter and this resulted in an attack by fishermen who began to hit him with sticks.

He stood them down and at one point challenged any of the fishermen to a duel with kendo swords. These are bamboo swords used for training in the art of Japanese swordsmanship. Nik has been a student of Kendo for some time. "If you want me to leave, I will, if you beat me in a duel. Who's up for it? Which one of you dolphin killers wants to have a one on one with a man and not a defenseless dolphin. Bamboo swords and no armor"

There were no takers ...

damn dirty hippies. the fishermen should just throw them in with the dophin meat and give the petfood a new ingredient. i hate hippies

[Big Booger]

Amazing, he actually challenged them to a kendo duel, and no one took him up on the offer.. sissies..

So they are killing the dolphins so they can catch more fish? Why don't they run a fish farm instead? With fish farm you can control the population, and insure a high standard of quality with the fish in what they eat and the environment they are exposed to...

I'd love to join this guy and help stop these psychos from doing what they are doing... That water is bloody red.. very sick. Why aren't their family present for the slaughter.. they should show their children what they are doing. Women, kids, old timers.. they should make it a big "kill the dolphin-chan and whale-chan party"

I mean for a society that gave a seal citizenship.. and then turn around and slaughter dolphins and whales.. this is a really demented way to do things.

[devicenull]

Amazing, he actually challenged them to a kendo duel, and no one took him up on the offer.. sissies..

So they are killing the dolphins so they can catch more fish? Why don't they run a fish farm instead? With fish farm you can control the population, and insure a high standard of quality with the fish in what they eat and the environment they are exposed to...

I'd love to join this guy and help stop these psychos from doing what they are doing... That water is bloody red.. very sick. Why aren't their family present for the slaughter.. they should show their children what they are doing. Women, kids, old timers.. they should make it a big "kill the dolphin-chan and whale-chan party"

I mean for a society that gave a seal citizenship.. and then turn around and slaughter dolphins and whales.. this is a really demented way to do things.

dude, they are just doing their jobs, jobs that exist because there is a demand for it and resources to fill that demand exist. as oppossed tp the dirty hippies who have nothing better to do than cause trouble simply because they are dirty hippies and that's what they do best. fucking western values and political correctness insanities of hippies have no place in japan.. hippy go home

[Caustic Saint]

dude, they are just doing their jobs, jobs that exist because there is a demand for it and resources to fill that demand exist. as oppossed tp the dirty hippies who have nothing better to do than cause trouble simply because they are dirty hippies and that's what they do best. fucking western values and political correctness insanities of hippies have no place in japan.. hippy go home

Goddamn hippies! Get outta my country!

[Big Booger]

Mr. Null,
Do you not think there is another more humane approach to this problem.. You have to agree it is barbaric to kill off the competition simply because they are doing what nature intended them to do.

Those fisherman have to make a living, I agree with that. I just don't agree that they should the dolphins just to improve their catches...

Like I said, they could do a fish farm, they could net off a section of the ocean and protect the fish that they want to catch.

They could promote larger hatchings of fish by artificially adding fertilized fish eggs to spawing grounds to improve fish numbers..

They could add artifical reefs to promote larger populations of the fish.

Dolphins and those whales usually get the weaker fish anyway. They actually promote healthier fish populations AFAIK..

A shame you feel the way you do, in your "kill'em all" mentality. And I am not a hippy, in fact I hunt deer, squirrel, rabbit, etc... But I don't kill deer because they are in my cornfield eating all the corn. I kill them to eat them. These dolphins are being slaughtered and the meat is not even eatible.. only used for pet food... what a shame.

[devicenull]

Mr. Null,
These dolphins are being slaughtered and the meat is not even eatible.. only used for pet food... what a shame.

kittah's gotta eat too :P
furthermore... what is it any business of foreigners to tell japanese what is right and wrong? it's nothing but stupid dolphin, and at least they are using the meat. if i had a few acres of land and part of it was timber with deer in it, it is no one elses business if i raze the timber and kill off the deer.

PC bullshit is the last thing japan needs

[AssKissinger]

PC bullshit is the last thing japan needs

meh, I gots to agree

[Big Booger]

I don't think PC has anything to do with the slaughter of animals, though I could be wrong.

politically correct
adj. Abbr. PC

1. Of, relating to, or supporting broad social, political, and educational change, especially to redress historical injustices in matters such as race, class, gender, and sexual orientation.
2. Being or perceived as being overconcerned with such change, often to the exclusion of other matters.

Taken from http://www.dictionary.com

The slaughter of dolphins to improve your fish catch is inhumane. How can we ever perceive ourselves to be humane=human, if we do things like this?

So I take it, that you thought Hitler was fine in killing the Jews to improve the "race" of Germans? After all, he was just doing what he thought was right.

[Caustic Saint]

So I take it, that you thought Hitler was fine in killing the Jews to improve the "race" of Germans? After all, he was just doing what he thought was right.

I am hereby invoking Godwin's Law and declaring you the loser in this discussion.

Godwin's Law prov. [Usenet] "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one." There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, that thread is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups. However there is also a widely- recognized codicil that any intentional triggering of Godwin's Law in order to invoke its thread-ending effects will be unsuccessful.

[devicenull]

I don't think PC has anything to do with the slaughter of animals, though I could be wrong.

politically correct
adj. Abbr. PC

1. Of, relating to, or supporting broad social, political, and educational change, especially to redress historical injustices in matters such as race, class, gender, and sexual orientation.
2. Being or perceived as being overconcerned with such change, often to the exclusion of other matters.

Taken from http://www.dictionary.com

The slaughter of dolphins to improve your fish catch is inhumane. How can we ever perceive ourselves to be humane=human, if we do things like this?

So I take it, that you thought Hitler was fine in killing the Jews to improve the "race" of Germans? After all, he was just doing what he thought was right.

...
you sure know how to blow things out of proportion...

inhumane eh? last time i checked, dolphins were not human.


i really couldnt care less about hitler, and i am part german-jew... oh snap.

[Blah Pete]

....The slaughters are also seen as a way to eliminate non-human competition for the plummeting fish stocks....

Maybe they need to practice better ocean resource management. Do dolphins really eat enough fish to cause an economic loss?

I think the real problem is greedy fishermen and industrial pollution.

[japslapper]

[japslapper]

[AssKissinger]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1756&e=3&u=/031029/481/tok10310291145

[Taro Toporific]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1756&e=3&u=/031029/481/tok10310291145

When at my great-aunt's place in Wakayama, I find dolphin the least tasty of of the sentient life served me. The dolphin steak is never been fully bled properly so the meat is dark red with spoiled blood...if the dolphin were beef in a supermarket, it would fail* USDA inspection for mishandled slaughtering.

*aside from the toxic levels in dolphin

[devicenull]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=1756&e=3&u=/031029/481/tok10310291145

OMG NOW THERE IS DOLPHIN PISS EVERYWHERE!!11



....30 seconds with photoshop

[Big Booger]

I don't think PC has anything to do with the slaughter of animals, though I could be wrong.

politically correct
adj. Abbr. PC

1. Of, relating to, or supporting broad social, political, and educational change, especially to redress historical injustices in matters such as race, class, gender, and sexual orientation.
2. Being or perceived as being overconcerned with such change, often to the exclusion of other matters.

Taken from http://www.dictionary.com

The slaughter of dolphins to improve your fish catch is inhumane. How can we ever perceive ourselves to be humane=human, if we do things like this?

So I take it, that you thought Hitler was fine in killing the Jews to improve the "race" of Germans? After all, he was just doing what he thought was right.

...
you sure know how to blow things out of proportion...

inhumane eh? last time i checked, dolphins were not human.


i really couldnt care less about hitler, and i am part german-jew... oh snap.

inhumane

adj : lacking and reflecting lack of pity or compassion]

[devicenull]

inhumane

adj : lacking and reflecting lack of pity or compassion]

i dont see how this applies to fish....
i dont give a shit if my cow meat was acquired by killing a cow... i only care that it is delicious. people are this funny creature designed to eat meat. they were hunting the dolphin by hand too, and the fact that they have been doing this for over 400 years should show that there is no danger to the population of dolphins.

[GuyJean]

they were hunting the dolphin by hand too, and the fact that they have been doing this for over 400 years should show that there is no danger to the population of dolphins.

Interesting.. So, in 400 years you feel there's been no growth in the human population, no advancements in hunting technology, and no evidence of animals becoming extinct due to human expansion?

if i had a few acres of land and part of it was timber with deer in it, it is no one elses business if i raze the timber and kill off the deer.

OK, Billy-Bob. Except that the deer can actually walk to other people's land, so they aren't really YOUR deer to kill.

Go ahead; cut, burn, slash all the vegetation on your land if you feel like it. This will ultimately end up protecting the deer, since there really will be no reason for them to wander through your self-made desert.

Also, if your land has any sort of water running through it, what you do to your land affects anyone downstream.. So, actually it IS 'someone else's business' what you do on your property.

I assume from your unbridled selfishness, you don't have kids. If you do, I'm sure they'll enjoy playing in the desolate litter-box you've left them.

Hippies annoy me just as much as red-necks; both ingorant and blind to anything besides their own agenda. But don't you think, as individuals, we have the responsibility to leave something for future generations?

(I'm not implying you being a red-neck, DN. But what you say sounds very similar to what my logging buddies would spout while drinking Hamms around the tire-fire)

JOKE-BREAK:
What's red-neck foreplay?
Git n' the truck, bitch!

GJ

[devicenull]

Interesting.. So, in 400 years you feel there's been no growth in the human population, no advancements in hunting technology, and no evidence of animals becoming extinct due to human expansion?

seeing as they were using knives and spears IIRC, i dont see that much of a reason to care. it's not like they were using high explosives for fishing.

OK, Billy-Bob. Except that the deer can actually walk to other people's land, so they aren't really YOUR deer to kill.

Hunting laws would tend to say otherwise

basically these people are assholes. call them up and see for yourself. First call I made, they were hardly polite, even though it was simply an information seeking call.... they are basically your typical annoying vegetarian hippies who are intent on using shock and scare tactics to force the world to their non-meat eating ways.

next call was me being a jerk and asking them to have their flock of hippies in japan send me some yummy dolphin steak. she called me a horrible human being and I then proceded to neglect to give her my mailing address seeing as i do not wish to be firebombed.

in summary, when animals are on your land, you can kill and eat them as much as you want. also, hippies are dirty, smelly and manipulative jerks who will fight for any cause as long as it will piss off the majority of the population that matters*



*braindead vegetables who rely on tv for their opinions and care about human interest pity fuck stories do not matter

[GuyJean]

Hunting laws would tend to say otherwise

Hunting laws include a hunting season.. So, you can't really do whatever you want, whenever you want, on your land.

basically these people are assholes. call them up and see for yourself.

Like I said]First call I made, they were hardly polite,. they are basically your typical annoying vegetarian hippies who are intent on using shock and scare tactics to force the world to their non-meat eating ways.[/quote]
So, you being abbrasively polite didn't get you the information you needed? Shock!

braindead vegetables who rely on tv for their opinions.
hippies are dirty, smelly and manipulative jerks.
greenpeace and peta fuckers should just be mixed into the petfood mix next time.
damn dirty hippies.
the fishermen should just throw them in with the dophin meat and give the petfood a new ingredient.
i hate hippies.

You say 'shock and scare', they say 'educate and inform'..

I thought that was a right-wing tactic anyway. Remember: Saddahm is still free to unleash his WMD in 45 minutes!! RUN.. And kill as many dolphins as possible.. With knives, of course. Like they did in them good ol' days. Because them scary, fish eating dolphins will drive me out of work!.. Who's scared, again?

in summary, when animals are on your land, you can kill and eat them as much as you want.

Depends on the country, state, season, animal, and method.. So, no. You're not free to do whatever you want..

also, hippies are dirty, smelly and manipulative jerks who will fight for any cause as long as it will piss off the majority of the population that matters*

I think we get your point..

My point is that the 'population that matters' sometimes doesn't know what's good for them, or their children. What's important to Bill-Bob and Emma-Sue is the price of their hamburgers, right now. Not creating a paradigm for sustainable growth for both the human and animal species, for the future..

I thought dolphins were protected anyway.. Is this not true?

I'm outta here to tear up the mountains in Nagoya on my mountain bike.. If I see any animals, I'll be sure to kill them for ya', DN.

GJ