Waseda University International Corp Fucks Fucked Gaijin

[Coligny]

I think the chest X-Ray is usually for tuberculosis... and is not necessarily a bad idea...

[Samurai_Jerk]

While we're on that tangent though...

Say the guy knew he had HIV, gets this job and hides it until he no longer can. Do you think the employer should be responsible for keeping him on the payroll? What if he had HIV when he got the job and just didn't know, does that change your answer? Do you think it's ok if employees test prospective employees for HIV before hiring?

WTF? Is it 1985?

It is in Korea where foreign English teachers have to take an HIV and drugs test (and chest x ray) to get their version of the gaijin card as well as when renewing their visa or changing jobs in some cases. The hospitals also slip in other tests that Korean Immigration doesn't require, like tests for STDs.

Yet imported sex workers on 'entertainer' visas do not have take these tests. That tells you a lot about Korean society's priorities even if you haven't lived there in that brothel on every street culture - that is hardly an exaggeration. I understand Korean society doesn't want to deal with the financial burden of foreigners with HIV but it really is more to do with the discriminatory attitude that HIV comes from foreigners.

It's more comfortable for the Koreans to have that attitude because then they do not have to deal openly with their culture of husbands going out routinely with the company on sex parties after the week has finished (most Koreans are married, it's a social obligation still enforced by attitudes), or with acknowledging that it's odd for a first world country to have brothels next door to a kindergarten or elementary school and for younger prostitutes to be openly picked up by the pimp in usual apartments in a society that boasts of its family values, ferried to their work place and dropped back all hours of the morning. The sex trade is in plain sight and just about everywhere but continually denied to exist.

Many young Korean males still have their first sexual experience with a prostitute (when they're not horsing around with other males but for males who prioritise each other over females they are really homophobic in that country) and honest Korean medical workers will admit that STD rates are unusually high among Korean wives because of the sexual norms of the society. Koreans are incredibly closed to even discussing these things and it comes out with the paranoia directed against foreign English teachers, for example.

What is happening to the teacher at Waseda here pales somewhat by contrast to the fact that the Korean authorities have the minority of English teachers who test HIV positive for their employment health checks sacked from their jobs and deported very quickly. The 2nd to last year I was in Korea a few young gay British male teachers had positive HIV tests and were deported within a week.

The fact that they only test English conversation teachers and not people applying for other types of visas says more about the type of person that wants to teach English in Korean than it does about Korean racism.

[wangta]

Ah, I see you're in arsehole mode and I take back the fair things I said about you to kurogane in another thread.

It says a lot about you that after I gave the information about sex workers imported (often forcibly, they don't have much choice) from the 3rd world to Korea and who have never had the benefits of being in a society where their health has any relevance and usually have STDs, at times HIV, you then make some bullshit comment about how the HIV etc tests say more about people who want to be English teachers in Korea.

Unlike you, I gave accurate information experienced firsthand working there for some years which is echoed by most serious assessments of Korean society from foreigners who have worked there, to Korean Americans returning to work there and experience what Korean life is like to academic studies to biracial Koreans.

Yes the HIV tests for those who want to be English teachers says much about the racist assumptions of Korean society and the way in which those assumptions serve to lead Koreans away from those hard questions about their society's attitudes to key issues such as women, prostitution, marriage, homosexuality and foreigners.

HIV is yet again another manifestation of the threat by foreigners to Korean society apparently yet the society won't acknowledge how the spread of STDs and HIV comes about through cultural attitudes that won't even allow mainstream public health campaigns in the real sense.

Friends who worked in the Korean school system were pissed off by the way in which any token HIV education showed white and black people, never Koreans, and the information dodged anything about sexuality or sex so that the message being received was foreigners have AIDS, their countries have lots of people with AIDS, and you can get AIDS from blood transfusions - most likely from foreign blood.

Breathtaking hypocrisy from a country that regularly imports prostitutes from the 3rd world on 'entertainer' visas and likes to ignore that fact because of course they are contributing to the enormous Korean sex industry that resembles Thailand without the honesty of the Thais.

I've got more Korean friends than you'll ever have and they know that the obsession with testing English teachers for HIV is contradictory and discriminatory especially when the Korean Ban Ki Moon is running around lecturing other countries about this kind of issue from his UN position.

[wangta]

I think the chest X-Ray is usually for tuberculosis... and is not necessarily a bad idea...

Nobody I know who worked there complained about the chest x ray - but again, funnily enough, TB is still a significant problem in Korea for Koreans given it is a first world country and not one of the poorer Asian countries that are bagged regularly in the Korean media and by Koreans.

TB in Korea is made worse by bad hygiene such as sneezing in the face of people you don't know, digging in others' rice and vegetable/meat bowls at meals, getting their saliva on your chopsticks and taking it in, not being smart enough to take your full course of antibiotics if you have TB, there are no public health campaigns to be more hygienic and aware of how TB can be transmitted by normal Korean practices, the chances of contracting TB while in hospital for other illnesses are not discussed etc etc.

[Coligny]

Tuberculosis and HIV are bff... And it's reapearing in Yurop, lost a friend to pulmonary oedema litterally drowned on his couch lungs filled with fluids. Post thyroid cancer... The one that is totally ok to have because it cures easily (cf some tohoku disaster posts) to much hospital stay where he caught TB... Got out of it... But the combined mess holed his lung... Or something... (There is not exactly an NTSB crash report available aboot the whole clusterfuck....)

[Samurai_Jerk]

I've got more Korean friends than you'll ever have

Congratulations?

[Coligny]

Can I borrow some ?

[wangta]

I've got more Korean friends than you'll ever have

Congratulations?

In my letsjapan lurking days, I recall a Samurai Jerk who was known by other posters as Samurai Joke and no, it wasn't because they were laughing with him.

I understand you became a refugee from letsjapan and ended up here and your modus operandi is to troll posters you don't know while regaling everybody with tales of how you rub shoulders with wealthy Japanese, work for some company way above eikaiwa and take trips outside to escape radiation, but there's no troll like an old troll.

[wangta]

Tuberculosis and HIV are bff... And it's reapearing in Yurop, lost a friend to pulmonary oedema litterally drowned on his couch lungs filled with fluids. Post thyroid cancer... The one that is totally ok to have because it cures easily (cf some tohoku disaster posts) to much hospital stay where he caught TB... Got out of it... But the combined mess holed his lung... Or something... (There is not exactly an NTSB crash report available aboot the whole clusterfuck....)

Sorry about your friends, that absolutely sucks. In Korea I didn't mind the TB test because I hadn't had a chest xray for years but I think the Koreans need to get their own house in order before labelling a very small minority of foreign teachers as carriers of TB when Koreans still are fairly ignorant about their own problem and how to solve it. I've heard TB persists in some places in Japan too whereas in the west it's more about globalisation and mass movements of people.

[Samurai_Jerk]

I've got more Korean friends than you'll ever have

Congratulations?

In my letsjapan lurking days, I recall a Samurai Jerk who was known by other posters as Samurai Joke and no, it wasn't because they were laughing with him.

I understand you became a refugee from letsjapan and ended up here and your modus operandi is to troll posters you don't know while regaling everybody with tales of how you rub shoulders with wealthy Japanese, work for some company way above eikaiwa and take trips outside to escape radiation, but there's no troll like an old troll.

Not a refugee. I was an active poster on both forums for a few years but lost interest in letsjapan over time. Never been an eikaiwa teacher but I taught English for longer than I've done anything else so I don't know why you get the idea I have a problem with English teachers. You seem to have some self esteem issues.

[wangta]

It's actually simple - you were being an arsehole suggesting that Korea has reasons for stigmatising foreign English teachers as HIV and TB carriers despite the fact of Korean society avoiding the real issues of the spread of HIV/STDs and TB by Koreans including those who avail themselves of 3rd world 'entertainer' women brought in on 'entertainer' visas, with no such tests from Immigration and no rights as human beings in what amounts to mostly forced sexual labour in Korea.

I really shouldn't have expected any different from the only troll I've encountered here and a whinger like yourself in the letsjapan days. I recall your whingeing about not being able to pick up '2 Japanese women' in a nightclub, your whining about people pushing you in a nightclub and justifying your suckerisms by claiming you've had 'guns and knives pulled' on you. I wonder why...

[wuchan]

look at these two rejects from other lesser gaijin sights have a piss fest...

so, which one of you invited that tree jumper casio?

[Samurai_Jerk]

It's actually simple - you were being an arsehole suggesting that Korea has reasons for stigmatising foreign English teachers as HIV and TB carriers despite the fact of Korean society avoiding the real issues of the spread of HIV/STDs and TB by Koreans including those who avail themselves of 3rd world 'entertainer' women brought in on 'entertainer' visas, with no such tests from Immigration and no rights as human beings in what amounts to mostly forced sexual labour in Korea.

I really shouldn't have expected any different from the only troll I've encountered here and a whinger like yourself in the letsjapan days. I recall your whingeing about not being able to pick up '2 Japanese women' in a nightclub, your whining about people pushing you in a nightclub and justifying your suckerisms by claiming you've had 'guns and knives pulled' on you. I wonder why...

Wow, you must really have a hard on for me if you remember shit I allegedly posted years ago that I don't even remember. Hell I don't even know what supposed incidents you're talking about. I think it's been at least 8 years since I used letsjapan.

I also find it very funny that you took my comment about English teaching visas in Korea so seriously and personally. If I had put a at the end of it, would it have made you feel better? Quit being such a little bitch.

How many Korea friends do you have by the way? I want to compare because I'd be really stoked if it turned out it was me who actually had more.

look at these two rejects from other lesser gaijin sights have a piss fest...

What are you talking about? I've been an active member here for a lot longer than you.

[sublight]

Don't worry SJ, nobody takes you seriously.

[IparryU]

Don't worry SJ, nobody takes you seriously.

I do... Ever since i found out that he really isn't the fat slob he portrays himself as.

He can be a bit of a prick at times but he is good in my book.

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