Sell out! Just call it 'SunBeam' Whiskey

[Taro Toporific]

--Suntory buys Jim Beam for $16 billion---

Jim Beam Is Turning Japanese
slate.com | 2014/01/13
Huge news for whiskey fans as Suntory, Japan's largest drinks groups, announced today a $16 billion acquisition of Beam, Inc.
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[nikoneko]

Uff so are they going to start adding fake smoke flavoring and rubbing alcohol to Bourbon now like Suntory does to their cheap whiskies here? Not a fan of Suntory stuff at all even in the higher end really.

[IparryU]

Uff so are they going to start adding fake smoke flavoring and rubbing alcohol to Bourbon now like Suntory does to their cheap whiskies here? Not a fan of Suntory stuff at all even in the higher end really.

Not even MacAllen? Boooo!

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[Mike Oxlong]

Ever since I won a bottle of 18 year... McAllen has been my fav Japanese whiskey. Yamazaki is also very good.

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Are you talking about The Macallan? Scotch whisky, most definitely not from Japan.

[IparryU]

Ever since I won a bottle of 18 year... McAllen has been my fav Japanese whiskey. Yamazaki is also very good.

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Are you talking about The Macallan? Scotch whisky, most definitely not from Japan.

http://www.answers.com/topic/the-macall ... illers-ltd
1996: Highland Distillers, in partnership with Japan's Suntory, acquires control of Macallan-Glenlivet.

And JB aint Japanese... its bourbon, Suntory just buying up stuff which is my point.

But yes, you is correct

[Mike Oxlong]

Last I heard the Edrington Group bought them out.

[Kanchou]

I'm not much of a whisk(e)y drinker but I had Yamazaki on the rocks the other day and it was some good stuff. Any Japanese whiskey cheaper than that only belongs in a highball... as does Jim Beam white label.

My favorite so far is probably Maker's Mark... I can't afford anything richer than that.

I also had some The Glenlivet 12... I think. It was also very good, but I think the exquisitely-carved ice ball it was served on top of might have helped.

[American Oyaji]

Yamazaki is GOOD whiskey. Some of the best I've had and I've had a lot. The 12 year is great.

18 year Glenlivet...is frankly sinfully good.

As far as bourbon goes, Maker's Mark is ok, but I prefer Knob Creek. Both of which are owned by Jim Beam.

Frankly, I think owning a US distillery will let Suntory sell Yamazaki more broadly stateside. Not sure why but the Ohio Liquor Control Board removed it from sale in Ohio a couple years ago along with some other "foreign" brands. After that I noticed that Yamazaki prices went up and it was harder to get anywhere. I think some protectionism was going on

I think they'll leave Jim Beam alone and let it die if people decide not to drink it and promote their Japanese lines stateside.

[Big Boy]

Yamazaki and Yoichi after payday. Akadama before.

[wagyl]

I really don't think they are buying the brand just to then mess with the recipe or smother the product. Look at it this way: there has been an injection of Japanese cash into the US economy when the US shareholders were bought out, and no quantitative easing was required for that to happen!

As an example, half of the Australian beer market (the half that isn't South African owned) is owned by Kirin. They are not killing off brands or altering products, nor are they aggressively promoting their own products (They even seem to believe that Budweiser is an international premium brand... ). It is just a change of shareholders.

[Kanchou]

Yamazaki is GOOD whiskey. Some of the best I've had and I've had a lot. The 12 year is great.

18 year Glenlivet...is frankly sinfully good.

As far as bourbon goes, Maker's Mark is ok, but I prefer Knob Creek. Both of which are owned by Jim Beam.

Frankly, I think owning a US distillery will let Suntory sell Yamazaki more broadly stateside. Not sure why but the Ohio Liquor Control Board removed it from sale in Ohio a couple years ago along with some other "foreign" brands. After that I noticed that Yamazaki prices went up and it was harder to get anywhere. I think some protectionism was going on

I think they'll leave Jim Beam alone and let it die if people decide not to drink it and promote their Japanese lines stateside.

I want to try Knob Creek but ¥4000 is a lot of money.

[IparryU]

Yamazaki is GOOD whiskey. Some of the best I've had and I've had a lot. The 12 year is great.

18 year Glenlivet...is frankly sinfully good.

As far as bourbon goes, Maker's Mark is ok, but I prefer Knob Creek. Both of which are owned by Jim Beam.

Frankly, I think owning a US distillery will let Suntory sell Yamazaki more broadly stateside. Not sure why but the Ohio Liquor Control Board removed it from sale in Ohio a couple years ago along with some other "foreign" brands. After that I noticed that Yamazaki prices went up and it was harder to get anywhere. I think some protectionism was going on

I think they'll leave Jim Beam alone and let it die if people decide not to drink it and promote their Japanese lines stateside.

I want to try Knob Creek but ¥4000 is a lot of money.

Worth it!

[matsuki]

You guys are getting excited over drinking something called Knob Creek....

[IparryU]

You guys are getting excited over drinking something called Knob Creek....

LMAO you are starting to like these things now hugh?

[Kanchou]

Yamazaki and Yoichi after payday. Akadama before.

Akadama has got the be the worst shit I have ever tasted. I don't know how that became the product that launched Suntory.

[American Oyaji]

You guys are getting excited over drinking something called Knob Creek....

I don't know what I'm looking at but I'm cracking up!!
Lol!!

[torasan]

USATODAY NEWSPAPER HEADLINE ON THIS STORY:

"Japanese whisky scene barrels along " (with photo of large Nikka Whiskey keg)
subhead reads:
"Country has emergred as a top-notch, albeit quirky destination for drinkers." [Read the story at travel@usatoday.com]


A destination for drinkers? People fly all the way to Japan just to drink? Quirky headline or truth?

[Kanchou]

No one comes to Japan to drink but everyone does when they come.

Nomihodai is fun... although I personally don't understand why anyone would drink nihonshu or shochu when there are so many things that taste better or at least have more flavor. Like craft beer, scotch and soda, mojitos, wine...

[Mike Oxlong]

[Kanchou]

This is now the whiskey thread. Deal with it.

Just tried a tiny bottle of Taketsuru Pure Malt. It was OK. Yamazaki is better.

[J.A.F.O]

I don't know what I'm looking at but I'm cracking up!!
Lol!!

Reminds me of this one

Kitteh.jpg

[yanpa]

(They even seem to believe that Budweiser is an international premium brand... )

One of the tragedies of modern civilisation is the global prominence of Budweiser and its European counterpart, Heineken (although both are infinitely preferable to a concoction called "Pabst Blue Ribbon").

[sublight]

I really don't think they are buying the brand just to then mess with the recipe or smother the product. Look at it this way: there has been an injection of Japanese cash into the US economy when the US shareholders were bought out, and no quantitative easing was required for that to happen!

As an example, half of the Australian beer market (the half that isn't South African owned) is owned by Kirin. They are not killing off brands or altering products, nor are they aggressively promoting their own products (They even seem to believe that Budweiser is an international premium brand... ). It is just a change of shareholders.

No way they're going to start messing with the production. At most, they'll start distributing it to new markets and advertising it more aggressively. Pretty much what Diageo has been doing after buying half the world's spirits brands.

[matsuki]

I don't know what I'm looking at but I'm cracking up!!
Lol!!

Reminds me of this one

Kitteh.jpg

LOL....but skunks actually make relatively good pets.

(They even seem to believe that Budweiser is an international premium brand... )

One of the tragedies of modern civilisation is the global prominence of Budweiser and its European counterpart, Heineken (although both are infinitely preferable to a concoction called "Pabst Blue Ribbon").

THIS x 99999999999999999999999

[Kanchou]

For a beer you can buy for less than a dollar PBR isn't that bad.

[matsuki]

For a beer you can buy for less than a dollar PBR isn't that bad.

....just because you can buy it for that cheap doesn't mean you should

[Mike Oxlong]

Aren't beer prices relatively cheap in Germany? If you live there you get to decent drink beer made from natural ingredients for not much more than Americans pay for PBR, don't you?

[J.A.F.O]

For a beer you can buy for less than a dollar PBR isn't that bad.

I contend that PBR off the tap is better than budweiser or heineken ... But this is like saying PBR is the best looking 3rd shift Denny's waitress.

[yanpa]

Aren't beer prices relatively cheap in Germany? If you live there you get to decent drink beer made from natural ingredients for not much more than Americans pay for PBR, don't you?

Yup. 50 yen will get you half-a-litre of something drinkable in a bottle.

Ironically the high-class Yamaya near my place of work (also selling champagne at upwards of 300,000 a bottle) has a display of a German beer called Oettinger marketed as "premium export beer", which caused me to snigger the first time I saw it because in Germany it's the bottom of the range stuff you get from Aldi or Lidl. Still beats the pants off Heiniken and co.

[IparryU]

Aren't beer prices relatively cheap in Germany? If you live there you get to decent drink beer made from natural ingredients for not much more than Americans pay for PBR, don't you?

Yup. 50 yen will get you half-a-litre of something drinkable in a bottle.

Ironically the high-class Yamaya near my place of work (also selling champagne at upwards of 300,000 a bottle) has a display of a German beer called Oettinger marketed as "premium export beer", which caused me to snigger the first time I saw it because in Germany it's the bottom of the range stuff you get from Aldi or Lidl. Still beats the pants off Heiniken and co.

Sorta like how Budweiser is just as expensive as Super Dry? piss in a can.