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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:13 pm


Samuragochi’s ghostwriter speaks

Disgraced composer isn't even deaf, his 'partner in crime' says
japantimes.co.jp | Feb. 6, 2014
The man who ghostwrote works credited to “deaf” composer Mamoru Samuragochi for the past 18 years stepped forward Thursday as his “partner in crime.”
Takashi Niigaki, 43, a composer and part-time lecturer at Toho Gakuen School of Music in west Tokyo, also revealed that Samuragochi, who has claimed to have gone completely deaf at age 35, has normal hearing.
He said that Samuragochi, christened by the media as a modern Beethoven, often listened to Niigaki’s compositions and then offered comments.
Niigaki’s revelations came at a news conference at the Hotel New Otani in Tokyo a day after Samuragochi confessed that his music had been written by someone else.
Saying he could no longer live a lie, Niigaki revealed that he penned more than 20 classical musical scores credited to Samuragochi, a Hiroshima native and son of atomic bomb survivors, including the well-known “Hiroshima Symphony” and “Sonatina for Violin.” The sonatina will be used in the short program performance of figure skater Daisuke Takahashi at the Winter Olympics in Sochi, Russia, next week.
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Postby wagyl » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:24 pm

Can we believe what the Japan Times says about that when they fail to admit to their own past?
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Postby Coligny » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:49 am

Compared to the bay of Tonkin reporting, I think they can have a free pass...
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Postby BigInJapan » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:47 am

wagyl wrote:Can we believe what the Japan Times says about that when they fail to admit to their own past?

The JT was just going along with all the J media as usual (and none of the J media nebbishes did any fact checking, or in-depth reporting). The media in Japan is not exactly known for "investigative journalism". The masses are only to be fed what the powers-that-be deem allowable after the journos attend carefully scripted news conferences (and how many foreigners are allowed to attend them anyway?).
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Re: A fake fake!

Postby wagyl » Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:32 am

Sure, but often you see a mea culpa in these articles: we were fooled too. In this one, JT just talks about the media being fooled. "Samuragochi was hailed as a modern Beethoven on TV and in newspapers."

It kind of reminds me of another trained journalist who refers to himself in the third person.
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Postby matsuki » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:25 pm

wagyl wrote:Sure, but often you see a mea culpa in these articles: we were fooled too. In this one, JT just talks about the media being fooled. "Samuragochi was hailed as a modern Beethoven on TV and in newspapers."

It kind of reminds me of another trained journalist who refers to himself in the third person.


LOL, finally a trend Japan is ahead of the western world in?
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Postby Russell » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:11 pm

Just wondering who was the ghost writer of Beethoven...
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Re: A fake fake!

Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:12 pm

...Samuragochi, who has claimed to have gone completely deaf at age 35, has normal hearing.
He said that Samuragochi, christened by the media as a modern Beethoven, often listened to Niigaki’s compositions and then offered comments.
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Health Minister say the local authorities will cancel Samuragotchi's deaf/handicap certificate
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Postby Coligny » Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:31 pm

Will they also retroactively ticket him for all the times he parked in a handicap parking space ?
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Re: A fake fake!

Postby wuchan » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:01 pm

Coligny wrote:Will they also retroactively ticket him for all the times he parked in a handicap parking space ?

if he had a handicaped sticker from daiso on his car he wasn't breaking any laws.




Really, that's all you need. A 100 yen sticker. There is no offical handicaped system in most parts of japan. A lot of people here abuse the system.
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Postby Yokohammer » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:29 pm

wuchan wrote:Really, that's all you need. A 100 yen sticker. There is no offical handicaped system in most parts of japan. A lot of people here abuse the system.

No shit, and most of 'em don't even bother with the sticker. You see perfectly healthy young people parking in the handicapped spots around here all the time when there are free parking spaces just a few meters away. The handicapped space is closer to the door. There's a surprising lack of moral integrity here in the land of pure spirit and 思いやり (that translates as "compassion" for those who don't know ... it's a much vaunted trait around these parts). Hypocrisy ought to be a fucking religion.

(Having a really bad day ... make that month ... make that since last December ...)

EDIT: Oh yeah, and this Samura Tamagotchi ass is pissing me off too.
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Re: A fake fake!

Postby Taro Toporific » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:30 pm

Coligny wrote:Will they also retroactively ticket him for all the times he parked in a handicap parking space ?


The weird butterfly sticker is all he would have used---No parking privileges with that.
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Hard of hearing drivers must display these stickers, which forbids other drivers from cutting off or aggressively passing such cars.


What is more interesting is that by faking the deaf handicap, he collected all sorts monetary perks like 0% deductible on health insurance, 50% off on highway tolls, and small cash gifts from neighborhood associations (chonaikai) which can amount to 30~60,000 yen twice a year. I would looove to see the authorities bill him retroactively for all the monetary perks fraudulently collected (for me, the monetary perks have amounted to as much as 900,000 yen some years).
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Postby Coligny » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:04 pm

which forbids other drivers from cutting off or aggressively passing such cars.


Dood, that stuff is forbidden even if you are not following a tardmobile...

Am I the only one who bother with the road and traffic laws ?
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Postby Coligny » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:06 pm

Yokohammer wrote:
wuchan wrote:Really, that's all you need. A 100 yen sticker. There is no offical handicaped system in most parts of japan. A lot of people here abuse the system.

No shit, and most of 'em don't even bother with the sticker. You see perfectly healthy young people parking in the handicapped spots around here all the time when there are free parking spaces just a few meters away. The handicapped space is closer to the door. There's a surprising lack of moral integrity here in the land of pure spirit and 思いやり (that translates as "compassion" for those who don't know ... it's a much vaunted trait around these parts). Hypocrisy ought to be a fucking religion.

(Having a really bad day ... make that month ... make that since last December ...)

EDIT: Oh yeah, and this Samura Tamagotchi ass is pissing me off too.


Down here it's often lowered Totoya Crown or Alphard/Vellfire yankeemobiles... Driven by the kind of clown & Slut combo you would expect.

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Postby BigInJapan » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:26 pm

Yokohammer wrote:You see perfectly healthy young people parking in the handicapped spots around here all the time when there are free parking spaces just a few meters away.
Coligny wrote:Down here it's often lowered Totoya Crown or Alphard/Vellfire yankeemobiles... Driven by the kind of clown & Slut combo you would expect.

Years ago, I encountered just such a young couple (scrawny 20's asshat and his vacuous-looking yanki GF) at a mall as they pulled up in the GF's k-car into a handicapped spot (full parking lot). I was in front of a store, so I confronted the asshat about parking in the spot, and he tells me it's OK as he's a shogaisha (disabled person). I was like, "WTF?". He said he wears contacts, so it's fine to park there. I was about to trot him back and tell them to go look for another spot, but I saw my family coming, so he got a pass that day...
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Postby Yokohammer » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:42 pm

BigInJapan wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:You see perfectly healthy young people parking in the handicapped spots around here all the time when there are free parking spaces just a few meters away.
Coligny wrote:Down here it's often lowered Totoya Crown or Alphard/Vellfire yankeemobiles... Driven by the kind of clown & Slut combo you would expect.

Years ago, I encountered just such a young couple (scrawny 20's asshat and his vacuous-looking yanki GF) at a mall as they pulled up in the GF's k-car into a handicapped spot (full parking lot). I was in front of a store, so I confronted the asshat about parking in the spot, and he tells me it's OK as he's a shogaisha (disabled person). I was like, "WTF?". He said he wears contacts, so it's fine to park there. I was about to trot him back and tell them to go look for another spot, but I saw my family coming, so he got a pass that day...

There is no, I repeat "no" point in confronting fuckheads like that. They already know they're not supposed to park there, so what you're telling them is not going to enlighten them. The only thing that's likely to work in the short term is for their car to get towed and they fined. And even then it'll just be a begrudging compliance for fear of getting fined again.

The long term solution? They need to learn what it's like to be disabled.
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Postby Coligny » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:51 pm

Yokohammer wrote:
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Yokohammer wrote:You see perfectly healthy young people parking in the handicapped spots around here all the time when there are free parking spaces just a few meters away.
Coligny wrote:Down here it's often lowered Totoya Crown or Alphard/Vellfire yankeemobiles... Driven by the kind of clown & Slut combo you would expect.

Years ago, I encountered just such a young couple (scrawny 20's asshat and his vacuous-looking yanki GF) at a mall as they pulled up in the GF's k-car into a handicapped spot (full parking lot). I was in front of a store, so I confronted the asshat about parking in the spot, and he tells me it's OK as he's a shogaisha (disabled person). I was like, "WTF?". He said he wears contacts, so it's fine to park there. I was about to trot him back and tell them to go look for another spot, but I saw my family coming, so he got a pass that day...

There is no, I repeat "no" point in confronting fuckheads like that. They already know they're not supposed to park there, so what you're telling them is not going to enlighten them. The only thing that's likely to work in the short term is for their car to get towed and they fined. And even then it'll just be a begrudging compliance for fear of getting fined again.

The long term solution? They need to learn what it's like to be disabled.



Come on, check my parking wars thread, according to Polyanna-Pumpkin you just need to talk them to do the right thing... Like for Saddam Hussein and Kim Jung Ill...

Sidenote update, I won this war thanks to a sneaky Koban officer (the -young but straight to business no bullshit kind-)... who put a notice on said car at five in the evening, and went back next morning to check if the car moved... then put a much strongly worded sticker -overnight illegal parking-... Since then, no more car and I get nasty looks when I sometimes see him...
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Postby Yokohammer » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:07 pm

Basically, if a person is still behaving like this by the time they're a young adult there's not much outside of a very, very traumatic experience that can change them. Their parents have not done their job, and they're not likely to do theirs if they become parents. Sometimes the school of hard knocks and long, slow maturity will work, but not always. Some of the most inconsiderate assholes around are obachans and ojisans who've been like that their whole lives, or have even gotten worse with the don't-give-a-shit of age.

Just my personal opinion, but I believe that proper parenting is about the only real solution.
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Postby wuchan » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:34 pm

Yokohammer wrote:
Just my personal opinion, but I believe that proper parenting is about the only real solution.

have you forgotten where we are?
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Postby Yokohammer » Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:43 pm

wuchan wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:
Just my personal opinion, but I believe that proper parenting is about the only real solution.

have you forgotten where we are?

Yeah, I hear ya, but it's not like proper parenting is totally nonexistent here, and it's not the case that proper parenting is the norm anywhere else. I meet quite a few young-uns here who really have their act together, but the gap between them and those that don't is huge. I think the bubble years were responsible for producing a generation with an inordinately large percentage of spoiled brats. And they then beget more of the same.
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Postby Russell » Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:01 pm

Ough, I hardly park in the spots for handicapped.

Hardly...

That is, if there are 8 empty handicapped spots and nothing empty nearby, then I park there for short visit.

Yeah, I know I am a brat spoiled by the bubble years...

Back on topic, I read somewhere that the "musical genius" can't even read music scores...
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Postby matsuki » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:19 am

Yokohammer wrote:
wuchan wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:
Just my personal opinion, but I believe that proper parenting is about the only real solution.

have you forgotten where we are?

Yeah, I hear ya, but it's not like proper parenting is totally nonexistent here, and it's not the case that proper parenting is the norm anywhere else. I meet quite a few young-uns here who really have their act together, but the gap between them and those that don't is huge. I think the bubble years were responsible for producing a generation with an inordinately large percentage of spoiled brats. And they then beget more of the same.


I roll into the temple last night to hear "OMG! Not the last one!"

Apparently, over the past couple weeks, ever one of those plastic parking lot poles (all types) on our street has been destroyed. I'm talking a few KM's of shattered poles up and down the street. Even the little poles in all the gardens are in pieces.

Sooo...today, with the weather being nice and my car covered in Tokyo sludge, hers even worse, we bust out the pressure washer and have at the whips. Halfway through I see this two HS kids across the street laughing. A few minutes later my lemur is videoing them breaking poles, taking their own video, and yelling at each other "I don't think there are anymore, we broke all the poles!" Lemur starts yelling at them and calls the police....which directs her to call the local koban...who basically does nothing but say "we'll question them if we see them and send out more patrols in the area." The lil shits started taking a piss at my lemur so I come from behind my car to confront them...they must not have seen me before as they went into panic mode and ran down some dirt path on someone elses land. (I was wearing big ass snow boots so fat chance of me catching them) Course the po po could care less about the video and isn't willing to do anything. (yet, we'll see what all the other polacaust victims have to say)

How much of an ass beating can I give these lil fucktards before I get locked up?
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:43 am

It's very likely that the coppers can read the writing on the wall better than we can. Chances are that nobody around wants to deal with that shite...
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Postby Coligny » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:06 am

Any school around ? Give a try complaining to the headmaster. Usually ingress and egress flight for school fall under their responsibility...

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Postby matsuki » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:38 am

Yeah, might try the school route....the may have been ditching anyways, still in uniform and all.
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Postby J.A.F.O » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:41 am

chokonen888 wrote:How much of an ass beating can I give these lil fucktards before I get locked up?


I'll wager a bitch slap before the same five-o who neglected to do jack about blatant destruction of property rushes in with the J-SWAT team for Gaijin on nihonjin violence followed by newscrews a reporters... maybe.

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Postby matsuki » Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:43 pm

Likely...though I wonder what will happen when we show all the neighbors the video of the turds in actions. Might be best to leave it to them...unless I see them again with the pressure washer in hand.
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Postby J.A.F.O » Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:04 pm

Whats the range on your pressure washer? :twisted:
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Sun Mar 09, 2014 1:50 pm

Heard that the system of certifying and providing benefits for the deaf will be reviewed in the wake of this scandal. WTF?! Punish all the people who could use some assistance for the sins of this fake fuck. Besides following the kata of getting a haircut and a shave, his "apology" reeked of insincerity. Throw the book at the rat bastard, and leave the real deaf in peace.

He said he had given up his physical disability certificate for deafness, but remained resolute on the controversy over his hearing ability.

"In most circumstances I cannot properly hear spoken conversations," he said. A doctor's diagnosis distributed at the news conference said that Mr. Samuragochi wasn't deaf under law, but suffered from "sensorineural hearing loss," a form of hearing loss caused by an impairment of the inner ear. A sign-language interpreter accompanied Mr. Samuragochi while he answered questions from reporters.

At a news conference last month, Mr. Niigaki described himself as Mr. Samuragochi's "accomplice" and said he wrote more than 20 pieces for him over the years, including his most famous work, Symphony No. 1 "Hiroshima."

"Since the day I first met him 18 years ago, I've been writing music for him," the ghost composer said, adding that he never felt Mr. Samuragochi was deaf.

Mr. Samuragochi said some of the statements Mr. Niigaki made about him weren't true, and said he planned to sue him for libel after consulting with his new lawyer next week. Mr. Niigaki couldn't be reached for comment.

Mr. Samuragochi's promotion agency had said he was taught the piano from the age of 4 and mastered Beethoven and Bach pieces by the time he was 10.

Mr. Niigaki has said Mr. Samuragochi could only play introductory level piano, a claim Mr. Samuragochi has admitted as "generally correct."

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Postby Coligny » Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:39 pm

Nah... The droolies in front of their TVs want a public stoning...
A fake deaf... Fucking inabmissible... Who the guy think he is ? TEPCO ?
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