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Postby matsuki » Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:00 am

Anyone know how difficult it is to import trees to J-land? Seems my latest hobby is more popular with the locals than I thought...

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Re: FG wood

Postby wagyl » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:58 pm

Hey a giant sequoia is fun but there is a reason that they are protected as vulnerable: they prefer a particular environment to thrive and compete with other plants, and that is not the environment you are in. If I were you I would have fun with a hinoki, which is a close cousin after all.

But if you insist, less than 2 seconds with Google brought me this http://www.pps.go.jp/english/index.html
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Re: FG wood

Postby J.A.F.O » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:49 pm

I've had some seeds turned back from japan by customs. Said I need some kind of verification that its not an invasive species or carrying bugs or fungi or something. Gonna have to dig it up but I'll let you know.
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Re: FG wood

Postby matsuki » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:53 pm

I already have a baby Sequoia here, potted (like above) until it's big enough to transplant....just recently getting a lot of people asking for me to bring/grow them one after showing them some pics of what they become...and wasn't sure how much of a PITA the inspection is on a sapling. (growin' them from the seeds is like a 1 in 100 shot and I can just imagine customs reaction to a bag full of odd lookin' seeds)



BTW, I think their vulnerable status has more to do with logging activity that is no longer taking place. People have them growing all over the world in quite odd environments.
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Re: FG wood

Postby nikoneko » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:01 pm

wagyl wrote:Hey a giant sequoia is fun but there is a reason that they are protected as vulnerable: they prefer a particular environment to thrive and compete with other plants, and that is not the environment you are in. If I were you I would have fun with a hinoki, which is a close cousin after all.


Hinoki is actually a true cypress, you may be thinking of Cryptomeria (Jap. Cedar, 杉) which is similar to a giant sequoia and also similar to a Hinoki. But with Cryptomeria the needles are closer to a Sequoia. It is incorrectly called Cedar in English a lot, it is it's own species entirely. I thought choko's pic was a Sugi when I first saw it actually.
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Re: FG wood

Postby J.A.F.O » Fri Apr 18, 2014 5:56 pm

Found what I was looking for. Incoming seeds, cuttings, and sapling need something called a "phytosanitary certificate" to go with the shipment to appease j-customs. At least this was the case in 2010, not sure if regulations have changed since then.
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Re: FG wood

Postby matsuki » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:39 pm

nikoneko wrote:
wagyl wrote:Hey a giant sequoia is fun but there is a reason that they are protected as vulnerable: they prefer a particular environment to thrive and compete with other plants, and that is not the environment you are in. If I were you I would have fun with a hinoki, which is a close cousin after all.


Hinoki is actually a true cypress, you may be thinking of Cryptomeria (Jap. Cedar, 杉) which is similar to a giant sequoia and also similar to a Hinoki. But with Cryptomeria the needles are closer to a Sequoia. It is incorrectly called Cedar in English a lot, it is it's own species entirely. I thought choko's pic was a Sugi when I first saw it actually.


Cryptomeria...nothing was ever more accurately named. Ahhh Sugi....spruce but not really a spruce, called Japanese cedar but not really a cedar, fuck!!!
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Postby Mike Oxlong » Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:54 pm

J.A.F.O wrote:Found what I was looking for. Incoming seeds, cuttings, and sapling need something called a "phytosanitary certificate" to go with the shipment to appease j-customs. At least this was the case in 2010, not sure if regulations have changed since then.

Pretty common in ag import export...health certificates for livestock, etc. Each cuntry with their own rules & regs.
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Re: FG wood

Postby nikoneko » Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:12 pm

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wagyl wrote:Hey a giant sequoia is fun but there is a reason that they are protected as vulnerable: they prefer a particular environment to thrive and compete with other plants, and that is not the environment you are in. If I were you I would have fun with a hinoki, which is a close cousin after all.


Hinoki is actually a true cypress, you may be thinking of Cryptomeria (Jap. Cedar, 杉) which is similar to a giant sequoia and also similar to a Hinoki. But with Cryptomeria the needles are closer to a Sequoia. It is incorrectly called Cedar in English a lot, it is it's own species entirely. I thought choko's pic was a Sugi when I first saw it actually.


Cryptomeria...nothing was ever more accurately named. Ahhh Sugi....spruce but not really a spruce, called Japanese cedar but not really a cedar, fuck!!!


Haha yeah. They are the big tall evergreen ones that grow very straight and usually right along side Hinoki Cypress. Tons of them were planted after the war for construction purposes, because of that they are also one of the major reasons Japan has so many allergy problems as sugi is a pollen nightmare. I personally love the Sugi and Hinoki forests though, they are so tall with the needles and branches so high up they block out the undergrowth (good and bad of course) and they are cool spacious groves with birds singing at the tops the right times of year.

Either way on the name yeah and the species and etc, it is confusing, I just call them Sugi mostly, but sometimes just Cedar. Driving home today from a trip the mountains looked almost striped, the dark green stripes which were Sugi and Hinoki, and then the lighter green stripes which were the hardwoods gaining their leaves in Spring. Something I am going to really miss about Japan is those mixed forests on the mountains. You get all kinds of crazy stuff since we are an island here, my tree book for Kobe and the Rokko Mountains alone, and only that small area has over 350 different kinds of trees. 350 trees, not plants too, only Kobe..

Also just so you know Cryptomeria (Sugi) is the national tree of Japan. Makes sense huh? Lol.
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Re: FG wood

Postby Russell » Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:30 pm

Well, there is a forest park in Kobe with many trees from different continents, so it is no surprise then that there are more than 350 different species of trees...
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Postby Coligny » Sun Apr 20, 2014 12:11 am

Russell wrote:Well, there is a forest park in Kobe with many trees from different continents, so it is no surprise then that there are more than 350 different species of trees...



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Postby Russell » Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:21 am

Unfortunately, the boob scene was mozaicked. Now I have to go to Kobe to see it in reality...
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Postby nikoneko » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:11 pm

Russell wrote:Well, there is a forest park in Kobe with many trees from different continents, so it is no surprise then that there are more than 350 different species of trees...


There are actually two, there is another up at the top of the mountains. The book though only has native species that naturally occur in Kobe and the Rokko Mts just a a lot of f*ckin different types of trees basically.
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Postby kurogane » Mon Apr 21, 2014 8:14 am

chokonen888 wrote: Cryptomeria...nothing was ever more accurately named.


CRYPTOMERIA!!!!!!!!!!! CRYPTOMERIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Definitely one of the most awkward naming habits I ever came across: call it Japanese Cedar and somebody will bring it up, usually in a snippy tone, call it cryptomeria and only people you probably don't want to talk to much will understand WTF you mean.

I get that calling it Cedar was a mistake, but can't we just call it a Cypress (even though not that many people really know what a cypress is)??? I mean, it is a cypress.............. :cry:
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Postby Coligny » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:02 am

kurogane wrote:Definitely one of the most awkward naming habits I ever came across: call it Japanese Cedar and somebody will bring it up, usually in a snippy tone, call it cryptomeria and only people you probably don't want to talk to much will understand WTF you mean.


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Postby matsuki » Mon Apr 21, 2014 11:47 am

kurogane wrote:
chokonen888 wrote: Cryptomeria...nothing was ever more accurately named.


CRYPTOMERIA!!!!!!!!!!! CRYPTOMERIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Definitely one of the most awkward naming habits I ever came across: call it Japanese Cedar and somebody will bring it up, usually in a snippy tone, call it cryptomeria and only people you probably don't want to talk to much will understand WTF you mean.

I get that calling it Cedar was a mistake, but can't we just call it a Cypress (even though not that many people really know what a cypress is)??? I mean, it is a cypress.............. :cry:


I just call it Sugi....but yeah, "Japanese Cypress" is probably the most accurate description.
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Postby kurogane » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:00 am

I just remembered.............isn't Hinoki also a Japanese Cypress??????????????

Eeeeek. Weez fecked.

Anyways......yeah...............Sugi it is. The shrine trees actually do have very Wet Coast cedary bark, so I can almost see it.

EDIT: turns out Western Red Cedar (i.e. a BC cedar) is not a cedar either. :shock: It's a cypress too.

Turns out it's all the Lebaneez' fault.
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Postby nikoneko » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:21 pm

Hinoki = 檜 = Hinoki Cypress, Japanese Cypress = Actual Cypress
Sugi = 杉 = Cryptomeria, Japanese Cedar = Not Actual Cedar
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Postby matsuki » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:24 pm

I just like knowing my FG tree will eventually dwarf the local wood....even if I'm not around to see it.
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Postby nikoneko » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:56 pm

***insert joke about choko's wood dwarfing Japanese wood here***
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Postby Coligny » Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:17 pm

nikoneko wrote:***insert joke about choko's wood dwarfing Japanese wood here***
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Postby J.A.F.O » Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:01 am

Coligny wrote:
nikoneko wrote:***insert joke about choko's wood dwarfing Japanese wood here***
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It seems we're entering into virgin territory ... :lol:
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Postby Taro Toporific » Sat May 10, 2014 7:35 pm

So, this new comedy drama about a forestry program trainee really is called "Wood Job!" http://t.co/wPXpqIEnZK
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Postby IparryU » Sat May 10, 2014 9:06 pm

J.A.F.O wrote:
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Radiation starting to increase prices...

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Postby J.A.F.O » Mon May 12, 2014 2:39 pm

IparryU wrote:Radiation starting to increase prices...


However the radiashuns are not increasing the size it seems.
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