Android or Windows

[legion]

Thinking of getting a tablet PC, mostly to read PDFs, listen to music, watch movies.

So what are the pros and cons of the Android System vs Windows?

[Taro Toporific]

Thinking of getting a tablet PC, mostly to read PDFs, listen to music, watch movies.
So what are the pros and cons of the Android System vs Windows?

For personal entertainment purposes, the cheaper the better as long as the screen is hi-rez. Also pay attention to the battery life of any tablet---Windows tablets will go though a charge very quickly when using full-blown Microsoft applications.

I detest my iPad because it is a vile-&-cruel joke for editing MS Word documents and Photoshop type work (damning words coming from an Apple fanboy like me). I have been very impressed when I used a Windows tablet while on a Toshiba job---I was able to accomplish proper Word editing, Excel and Photoshopping quite well in the touch interface.

[yanpa]

If you just want to consume media, Android will be fine.

I have a Nexus 7, originally bought to develop on but the Mrs. has appropriated it to watch Youtube on and hasn't complained. The only criticism I have is that it has no SD card slot, which is something you may want to look out for.

[J.A.F.O]

I went out on a limb and bought a Android Tablet when gingerbread came out and I was pretty impressed by the versatility and it's getting smoother as they hammer out the kinks. I'm not an apple fanboy though nothing against apple, its intuitive and easy to use, I just like to screw around with stuff and when something goes out on my PC I just rip it out and replace or upgrade. I was playing with an Asus tab running win 8 and was very impressed... though not enough to buy one. I was looking at getting a larger screen tablet or an ultrabook, both look pretty good for my needs.

[matsuki]

Android/iPad are great for what you want.

Windows tablets are great if you want a Laptop replacing tablet...which is what I want, wait for the next Microsoft Surface model to be released. (unless something better comes out)

[Coligny]

Android/iPad are great for what you want.

Windows tablets are great if you want a Laptop replacing tablet...which is what I want, wait for the next Microsoft Surface model to be released. (unless something better comes out)

Like the Turbo BRZ... hope you are made of patience... because I'm not sure there won't be any...

Maybe... If you go for an Android tablet, check that she got the spec to run software that you want. Not sure all can run google maps as turn by turn GPS for example....

[Yokohammer]

If you're normally a Windows user wouldn't it make sense to go with a Windows tablet just because you're familiar with the territory? And you can use regular Windows applications.

if you're normally an Apple user and are considering an Android/Windows tablet ... shame on you! Well, not really. I'm an Apple user but I prefer the Samsung Galaxy (Android) smartphones to the current iPhone. It'd be nice if the contacts/calendars/notes/etc. would sync though (they don't). As silly as it might sound, I have a new Retina iPad Mini (WiFi only version) that I sometimes tether to my Galaxy when out and about and needing a bit more screen real estate than the phone can provide. Works like a charm and sidesteps the need for multiple contracts with shady phone carrier services.

[Yokohammer]

I detest my iPad because it is a vile-&-cruel joke for editing MS Word documents and Photoshop type work (damning words coming from an Apple fanboy like me). I have been very impressed when I used a Windows tablet while on a Toshiba job---I was able to accomplish proper Word editing, Excel and Photoshopping quite well in the touch interface.

Taro,

Microsoft Office for iPad is out now, innit? Have you tried that?
That and a Bluetooth keyboard ought to give you almost-laptop functionality.

[Russell]

I have an iPad with bluetooth keyboard, but it sucks.

Listening to music while doing something else like surfing the net is impossible, for example.

What was wrong with a laptop again?

[Yokohammer]

I have an iPad with bluetooth keyboard, but it sucks.

Listening to music while doing something else like surfing the net is impossible, for example.

What was wrong with a laptop again?

You mean it's too slow?
Is it an old iPad? The newer ones are considerably faster.

But yes, a laptop is much better for typing. On the road I use my MacBook Air for that. The iPad is smaller, lighter, and more convenient for casual use though.

[Russell]

I have an iPad with bluetooth keyboard, but it sucks.

Listening to music while doing something else like surfing the net is impossible, for example.

What was wrong with a laptop again?

You mean it's too slow?
Is it an old iPad? The newer ones are considerably faster.

But yes, a laptop is much better for typing. On the road I use my MacBook Air for that. The iPad is smaller, lighter, and more convenient for casual use though.

Nope it's new. I bought it in February. It is ridiculous that you cannot run background processes on it. So, you want to listen to music, you have to watch the interface of the music player, and you cannot do anything else. Back to the '90s of a Mac I say.

I guess, I am just not a TouchPad guy...

[Coligny]

Nope it's new. I bought it in February. It is ridiculous that you cannot run background processes on it. So, you want to listen to music, you have to watch the interface of the music player, and you cannot do anything else. Back to the '90s of a Mac I say.

I guess, I am just not a TouchPad guy...

No you don't... The ipod function is backgroundable.
The booming system in Meatball (the whip) is sourced from my Iphone over bluetooth, while the Iphone is used with google map at the same time, it's interupted only if there is an audio output from the frontmost app.


You can also shutdown the screen while playing back...

[legion]

I started going off Apple ten years ago, they are now a phone company with a sideline in useless software and a shrinking line of other hardware. The laptop,desktop, fondleslab & over priced mp3 player are on the way out, most users just need a hand held computer that doubles up as a phone.

I think if Windows gobbles battery then Android is an option.

[Coligny]

I started going off Apple ten years ago, they are now a phone company with a sideline in useless software and a shrinking line of other hardware. The laptop,desktop, fondleslab & over priced mp3 player are on the way out, most users just need a hand held computer that doubles up as a phone.

Soooo... the "apple is dying" droolies are still a thing...

You forgot "Car navy integration company"

http://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/

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Ok the Renault and Volkswagen-Audi groups are not there yet... but they will come running when they understand the size of their blunder...

[IparryU]

Isn't that... "in progress"?...

Where as Google is in the OAA and is actually displaying functioning cars wit the android tech... Hyundai.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2 ... t-dominate

Siri si still... shit from what i have experienced with some of my friends who do major iOS and Android dev. How you supposed to navi a car with a shitty voice rec system?

Apple is just... not as innovative as they were when they were competing against nobodies.

[Mike Oxlong]

[Coligny]

Isn't that... "in progress"?...

Nope, not for the top 5 brand, just go to your usual Ferrari dealership for a tech demo.

Where as Google is in the OAA and is actually displaying functioning cars wit the android tech... Hyundai.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2 ... t-dominate

Android is the defacto tablet OS in Renault cars selected because it was cheaper. And universally hated by users.
As for Microsoft... They lost that war... Several times already, that's why BMW ditched them.

Siri si still... shit from what i have experienced with some of my friends who do major iOS and Android dev. How you supposed to navi a car with a shitty voice rec system?

1- I never used voice recognition system in cars as the OEM ones are ridiculously bad
1b- and have yet to know someone using it
2- Siri actually -do- work when you try to use it instead of trying to make it fail.
3- Beside, you need more a navy that talk to you rather than listen to you...

Apple is just... not as innovative as they were when they were competing against nobodies.

Who the fuck cares, they make shit that mostly works as they mostly always tried to do, rest is religious bullshit from the Church of the Butthurt.

[IparryU]

Isn't that... "in progress"?...

Nope, not for the top 5 brand, just go to your usual Ferrari dealership for a tech demo.

Where as Google is in the OAA and is actually displaying functioning cars wit the android tech... Hyundai.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2 ... t-dominate

Android is the defacto tablet OS in Renault cars selected because it was cheaper. And universally hated by users.
As for Microsoft... They lost that war... Several times already, that's why BMW ditched them.

Siri si still... shit from what i have experienced with some of my friends who do major iOS and Android dev. How you supposed to navi a car with a shitty voice rec system?

1- I never used voice recognition system in cars as the OEM ones are ridiculously bad
1b- and have yet to know someone using it
2- Siri actually -do- work when you try to use it instead of trying to make it fail.
3- Beside, you need more a navy that talk to you rather than listen to you...

Apple is just... not as innovative as they were when they were competing against nobodies.

Who the fuck cares, they make shit that mostly works as they mostly always tried to do, rest is religious bullshit from the Church of the Butthurt.

All valid.

Very true about the reliability of apple products. Battery life is hands down the best.

I just hate the UI cause of the limitation... But for driving folks... Limitation should really be there.

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[yanpa]

I started going off Apple ten years ago, they are now a phone company with a sideline in useless software and a shrinking line of other hardware. The laptop,desktop, fondleslab & over priced mp3 player are on the way out, most users just need a hand held computer that doubles up as a phone.

Not on their way out by any means, though the market is certainly restructuring. Apple seems to be in a good place as it's occupying the higher end where people do still need a productive device and are prepared to shell out a bit more.

Apple's domestic Mac sales surge 28.5% as overall PC market shrinks 7.5%

I do get the impression Apple has lost its touch in the creative sector - but go to any tech-orientated event (apart from maybe hard-core Windows ones) and at least 50% of the laptops will be Macs.

[legion]

It was a much petter (sic) performance for Apple than a year ago, when the company accounted for just 9.9 percent of U.S. PC shipments. Apple's holiday 2012 quarter was marred by serious delays for its revamped iMac desktop, with most orders not shipping until early 2013.

So people had put off buying a Mac for a while?

Yeah, I still use a Mac at work but next time I upgrade I will suggest we look at alternatives, like putting me out to pasture and letting the young'uns do all the heavy lifting .....


Anyway, think I will opt for Android, the car needed a new battery today on its 6 month tenken, (must be to power the super voice activated digital interface it doesn't have), so my pocket money just got dented.

[legion]

You forgot "Car navy integration company"

http://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/

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Ok the Renault and Volkswagen-Audi groups are not there yet... but they will come running when they understand the size of their blunder...

Are you shitting me? Sticking your stupid phone in your stupid car cos you are too stoopid to read a fucking map.

[Coligny]

With the same logic, why use cars, stick to horses...

Now if you need explanation on why apple or google maps are better than inboard navy or paper maps:

Up to date maps
Real time traffic info
Real time rerouting according to traffic info
Syncing with train schedules if the trip is only partially by car.
Nearly 0 time needed to prep a trip, say point A, point B, select the trip you prefer and go.
HAVE YOU TRIED USING A FUCKING MAP TO FIND A PLACE IN JAPAN ?
if 1- yes you did and 2- you were successful, congrats, you are officially more skilled than 90% of the local taxi drivers.
If you think texting while driving is distracting, just try open and fold a map while driving.

I can use marine and aero navigation maps, plan a IFR trip a follow it by hand. I'm also really happy to have a GPS showing in real time my position and the shape of the road ahead.

BTW:
My phone is not stupid, it's a tool.
My car is not stupid, it's a tool, and quite a smartly designed one shall I add.
Am I an idiot because I use available tools the way they were designed to be used ?
Well, that's your opinion, and like asses, everybody got one...

[legion]

get a motorbike then come back and talk to me

[Coligny]

get a motorbike then come back and talk to me

I would not make a good organ donor... (nickname of bike riders in hospital spheres)

And fail to see you point if any...

[legion]

HAVE YOU TRIED USING A FUCKING MAP TO FIND A PLACE IN JAPAN ?

yes, I have ridden from Tokyo to Hokkaido, from Tokyo to Kyushu, all around Shikoku, all around Okinawa, all over the Kanto region, Gifu, Nagano, Yamagata, Yamanashi, Saitama, Kanagawa. All on Mapple. You just have to know how to read, and when you get lost, enjoy it.

But hey, when I'm out for pleasure I'm on a motorcycle, motorcrosser, so if the road turns to dirt I just think, hey ho, time to stand up and enjoy the scenery.

[legion]

get a motorbike then come back and talk to me

I would not make a good organ donor... (nickname of bike riders in hospital spheres)

And fail to see you point if any...

The point is that you can't wind down your window and enjoy the cool breeze on a motorcycle.

[legion]

navigation in Japan, simple rules

go by road numbers, road names, & junction names, don't try to navigate by place names except for heading in a general direction - when you enter a "town" or "village" there is no marker, the signs to the town just stop, but you are still halfway up a mountain.

do not believe maps made by tourist destinations, they are designed to make it look easy to get to the destination, not tell you how to get to the destination

before you set out look at your map, remember the route, remember landmarks, rivers, bridges, tunnels -count tunnels and note the length.

when you get lost just go straight, don't try to take a left because that should get you going the right direction, the roads curve evilly and will send you in the opposite direction. Go straight and you will get somewhere.

When you hit a closed road there is no escape, all other roads will be closed, or take you back to where you started, this is why the Age of Warfare (Sengoku Jidai) lasted so long, appreciate your new understanding of Japanese culture.

If you see a sign saying "Convenience Store 1.6k" you are in the countryside but approaching civilization.

If you see Suzuki and Daihatsu dealerships you are in the countryside, but in a village spread across a fertile plain.

If you see a gas stand you will see at least 3 more within the next kilometer, if you do not you are heading away from the local town. If it is Sunday and the gas stand is open there is an Onsen village nearby, and possibly a bear amusement park.

If you see a lot of weird buddhist statues on the hills you are in Children of the Corn territory, except it will be Baba of the Kome

See all the fun you are missing when you just drive along listening to some tart saying "At the next junction turn left"

[Coligny]

I don't drive with my eyes closed...

[legion]

I opted for Android, got an Acer tablet, decided to support Taiwan over China

Quite a learning curve on the operating system, but getting my head round it. The basic premise appears to be coercing us all to use cloud services for everything, which assumes we are always within WiFi range. Have worked out how to get data onto the thing, my PC is now a little substitute cloud, and my little tablet a receptacle for its rain, and there was me thinking I'd just hook it up via USB and drag and drop................

[yanpa]

PS Just about to start migrating data from PC to Mac

After ascertaining that there is nothing on their fanwhirring Windows Vistra craptops which can't be replaced in a proper OS environment. If nothing else it will finally put an end to yanpa's father going on about his epic antivirus configuration skillz. And it's not like I even forced this stuff on them, it's just another couple of people deciding they can't be arsed to figure out Windows 8. And no, tablets of whatever nature wouldn't do the trick, they both create enough "content" for a tablet-based solution to be a PITA. And yes, my father did enquire whether it would be possible to install this Ubuntu thingy on the netbook now XP is unsupported, which I duly did (Xubuntu to be precise), and they were fine with the menu stuff being in a different place even though I offered to make it more Windows-like.