J-Companies ordered to become profitable

[matsuki]

So is the increasing birth rate in places like the UK and France (data presented earlier) due to immigration alone then?

Most likely.

Actually the data shows (I am told) that immigrant communities have a higher birth rate and that the indigenous population's birth rate has increased over the last 20 years or so.

Sooo whatever the reasoning, immigration is part of the equation to increasing the indigenous population....

[Wage Slave]

So is the increasing birth rate in places like the UK and France (data presented earlier) due to immigration alone then?

Most likely.

Actually the data shows (I am told) that immigrant communities have a higher birth rate and that the indigenous population's birth rate has increased over the last 20 years or so.

Sooo whatever the reasoning, immigration is part of the equation to increasing the indigenous population....

Yeah, it is really. And it keeps them in benefits, jobs and healthcare.

[Samurai_Jerk]

So is the increasing birth rate in places like the UK and France (data presented earlier) due to immigration alone then?

Most likely.

Actually the data shows (I am told) that immigrant communities have a higher birth rate and that the indigenous population's birth rate has increased over the last 20 years or so.

Sooo whatever the reasoning, immigration is part of the equation to increasing the indigenous population....

Yeah, it's probably some ancient tribal or even animal instinct to compete.

[IparryU]

So is the increasing birth rate in places like the UK and France (data presented earlier) due to immigration alone then?

Most likely.

Actually the data shows (I am told) that immigrant communities have a higher birth rate and that the indigenous population's birth rate has increased over the last 20 years or so.

Sooo whatever the reasoning, immigration is part of the equation to increasing the indigenous population....

Immigrants are immigrants cause they have a better chance in the other country than their own. So when the move to new country, they have a higher income and a better life style compared to home country. Thus, they will feel more intrigued to have children, as their life is better than what the would have experienced in home country.

This usually does not apply to the.... more stable countries, like the US, UK, OZ/Kiwis, as we don't come from complete shit holes. But you get people from Mexico, the PI, Africa, etc, that move to other countries and are far better off. So you bring a boatload of immigrants, put them in projects, let them go wild, population will increase slightly. And since there is many more of them to do the low end jobs, the nationals usually get better jobs as their is a class hierarchy.

Then you get them dip shits from Cali, Arizona and Texas, who blame immigrants for their jobs being taken, which is fucking dumb because you wont see their fat honky asses wake up at 0300 to go pick fruit.

So will it increase population in Japan? Not as much as countries where if you are a refugee... you get a fat paycheck. You wont see FG open a liquor store on every other corner. You wont see much restaurants pop up with ethnic foods cause the Japanese can't stand food with multiple tastes or something different from what made the "norm". What businesses have started in Japan by and FG and really blew up? I can only think of one... forgetting the name, but Tim Williams (a Kiwi?) started it.

Even if they did follow the consultant's advice from Kenichi Ohmae Grad School... there still will be many other fucked cultural issues that will just bombard business in general. So you would need young, fresh, open minds to be able to think bast the cultural bullshit so things can actually work out.

But TIJ

/rant

[Samurai_Jerk]

Immigrants are immigrants cause they have a better chance in the other country than their own. So when the move to new country, they have a higher income and a better life style compared to home country. Thus, they will feel more intrigued to have children, as their life is better than what the would have experienced in home country.

Have to disagree with your premise. People who immigrate to the first world from developing nations are coming from places where people have a lot of kids so they're just continuing the pattern they're used to.

[yanpa]

What businesses have started in Japan by and FG and really blew up? I can only think of one... forgetting the name, but Tim Williams (a Kiwi?) started it.

ValueClick, and yes, a Kiwi with a nice house. (I used to work for him, indirectly).

I'm sure there are quite a few FG who have done pretty well in Japan, if not quite so spectacularly (not counting those who married into wealth ).

[IparryU]

What businesses have started in Japan by and FG and really blew up? I can only think of one... forgetting the name, but Tim Williams (a Kiwi?) started it.

ValueClick, and yes, a Kiwi with a nice house. (I used to work for him, indirectly).

I'm sure there are quite a few FG who have done pretty well in Japan, if not quite so spectacularly (not counting those who married into wealth ).

Done pretty well vs start up a company that gives well paid jobs to the nationals is completely different. Which is really what any country can use to boost the local economy.

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[yanpa]

What businesses have started in Japan by and FG and really blew up? I can only think of one... forgetting the name, but Tim Williams (a Kiwi?) started it.

ValueClick, and yes, a Kiwi with a nice house. (I used to work for him, indirectly).

I'm sure there are quite a few FG who have done pretty well in Japan, if not quite so spectacularly (not counting those who married into wealth ).

Done pretty well vs start up a company that gives well paid jobs to the nationals is completely different. Which is really what any country can use to boost the local economy.

OK, I meant "quite a few FG who have founded businesses which have done pretty well in Japan". Maybe not quite as many as in say the US, but they do exist. Mind you the only one I can think of right now is Ashisuto.

[Russell]

Back to au pairs, do they usually live with the family they are employed at?

If so, how does that work out with the average Japanese house size?

[Wage Slave]

Back to au pairs, do they usually live with the family they are employed at?

If so, how does that work out with the average Japanese house size?

They always live with the family - it is very much part of the deal. If the wife is going to work then presumably you have enough money to buy a bigger place with a spare bedroom or build an extension.

On average, Japanese dwellings are bigger than British dwellings. I looked up the data once because I got so sick of the assumption they weren't. Gardens are of course a whole different story. Space wouldn't be the main obstacle I wouldn't have thought.

The deal is that the girl gets an English school, lots of opportunity to practise her English, accommodation/food, pocket money and weekends off and properly off. The name au pair is supposed to indicate a lack of servile or professional (nanny) status. I seen it work very well very often, and occasionally very badly when the family feels they should get a servant in all but name.

Whether it would work in Japan I don't know. I think it might well but there won't be as many nice young women looking to spend a year or two here learning Japanese and getting the Japanese experience - There will be some though and it could catch on and grow. I'm not sure.

[Wage Slave]

House sizes compared to Japan. Revealing isn't it.

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source

[Russell]

It is indeed revealing.

Don't know what to make of it.

[Coligny]

It is indeed revealing.

Don't know what to make of it.

Me neither... For example, French house sizing usually refer to the "habitable" space, that exclude closets, corridors, stairs, loo, bathrooms, balconies, greenhouses and terrace.

Pretty sure japanese sizing include the empty space inside the walls...

[Russell]

It is indeed revealing.

Don't know what to make of it.

Me neither... For example, French house sizing usually refer to the "habitable" space, that exclude closets, corridors, stairs, loo, bathrooms, balconies, greenhouses and terrace.

Pretty sure japanese sizing include the empty space inside the walls...

LOL, but isn't that where the Japanese live, inside walls?!?

[matsuki]

It is indeed revealing.

Don't know what to make of it.

Me neither... For example, French house sizing usually refer to the "habitable" space, that exclude closets, corridors, stairs, loo, bathrooms, balconies, greenhouses and terrace.

Pretty sure japanese sizing include the empty space inside the walls...

Yep...and US homes only 53.6% bigger? Dude, my parent's middle class home is at least triple the space as most of the rabbit hutches here. Something about that data is definitely fishy.

[yanpa]

Yeah, 187m2 for new detached houses in Japan? I also wonder if those statistics are for free-standing houses only, or if they take into account apartments as well.

This report has some rather more realistic-sounding figures for houses, albeit not including Japan, but I can state anectodally that in Tokyo at least the minimum size for new builds is 80m2, and I don't think I've seen one smaller than 85m2. Which is probably smaller than your average American walk-in closet, but which still trumps the UK.

[yanpa]

And this report states:

The average UK home - including older and new-build properties is 85 sq m and has 5.2 rooms - with an average area of 16.3 sq m per room.

[matsuki]

I can understand older London homes but who the hell would want to build a new home so small?? Might as well save on the property taxes and go mobile...

[IparryU]

I can understand older London homes but who the hell would want to build a new home so small?? Might as well save on the property taxes and go mobile...

I dont know if the documentary was posted on FG or if it was circulated at work... but the container apartments boomed for a bit as London property value keeps going up.

One girl had a full on chick pad in one of those... Hell, line 3 or 4 of them up side by side and you got a sick pad.

Only issue is the head... would be hard to have lemurs over and not be able to shower after or cook anything. But i bet those things could be added on easily enough.

[IparryU]

Companies Urged to Get Out of Tokyo

Japanese business people, shown here at a New Year’s ceremony in Tokyo, tend to hesitate to move key corporate functions outside the capital. Agence France-Presse/Getty Images
Most large corporations in Japan are headquartered in Tokyo, packing the capital region with 36 million people and leaving rural areas depopulated.

Komatsu Ltd.6301.TO +0.31%, which recently began moving some headquarters functions to Ishikawa Prefecture on the Japan Sea coast, is one example of efforts to tackle the problem.

With nearly 30% of the nation’s 127 million people living on 3.6% of the land, it’s hard to own a spacious home and have large families in and around Tokyo. By contrast, a report published by the Japan Policy Council last week predicted that half of Japan’s 1,800 towns and cities will enter a downward population spiral by 2040 and could be on the road to extinction.

“Young people become unable to marry when they move to Tokyo, where everything is expensive, nurseries are in short supply, and houses are too small,” said Hiroya Masuda, the main author of the report.

The birth rate in Tokyo is the lowest among Japan’s 47 prefectures, with women expected to bear 1.09 children on average against the national average of 1.41.

“The population problem has been made worse by the overconcentration in Tokyo,” said Mr. Masuda, a former internal affairs minister, at a news conference.

A government panel on Tuesday, responding to the report, called for taking steps to ensure the population stabilizes at around 100 million in 2060.

How can that be done?

Komatsu Ltd. says part of the answer is returning to its roots in Komatsu city, Ishikawa Prefecture, where the company originally started.

The decision to move some headquarters functions back to Komatsu was prompted by a discovery that female employees who work in Ishikawa have more children than those who work in Tokyo, said Masahiro Sakane, Komatsu senior adviser.

It’s not just lower living expenses that make Ishikawa attractive, he said. Many employees have their parents live nearby and can ask them to help with their child rearing.

“I decided to move some of our businesses to Ishikawa after discovering big differences in birth rates,” he said.

Komatsu is still an exception. Half of Japan’s 3,500 listed companies are headquartered in Tokyo. Compare that to the U.S., where only 10% of the Fortune 500 companies are based in New York City.

“Japan’s system of economic development, in which the central government plays a leading role, tends to encourage companies to locate in Tokyo,” the seat of government, said Sakie T. Fukushima, president of G&S Global Advisors Inc. and one of the authors of the report. “People think they have to locate in Tokyo to stay up to date.”

Source: http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2014/05/14/companies-urged-to-get-out-of-tokyo/

[Wage Slave]

I can understand older London homes but who the hell would want to build a new home so small??

The older homes are much bigger - but have often been split into flats. Lack of land zoned for building, demand generated by an increasing population, high building costs and relatively large gardens is the reason people have had to settle for small dwellings.

The lack of land available for building is largely because of very powerful and restrictive planning laws. Allegedly this is to preserve the countryside and health and beauty of the cities. I tend to feel it has more to do with inflating property prices which has been a major preoccupation of virtually every government since the early eighties.

However, there isn't any getting away from the fact that places like America and Australia have a lot more land available while still leaving plenty for agriculture and parks.

[Wage Slave]

I can understand older London homes but who the hell would want to build a new home so small?? Might as well save on the property taxes and go mobile...

Where do you park it and how do you get services like power, water, sewerage and drainage connected?

A lot more people live on houseboats in London now - Although I wonder if it is all year round in many cases. And most of them look blissfully retired.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Yep...and US homes only 53.6% bigger? Dude, my parent's middle class home is at least triple the space as most of the rabbit hutches here. Something about that data is definitely fishy.

2200 sq ft average for US homes sounds about right. Do you think 1400 is too much for Japanese homes? It seems high to me but I've lived in central Tokyo or the Saitama suburbs my whole time in Japan so that has probably skewed my perception. I also think that a lot of Japanese homes are designed to feel as small as possible with all the unnecessary partitioning and tiny windows. Add to that the tendency of people to horde useless junk and keep the curtains drawn here and I think it makes a lot of homes feel even smaller than they actually are.

[matsuki]

Totally depends on where you live but...

In 2012, the median home in the U.S. hit an all-time record of 2,306 square feet, up 8% from 2009.

I totally agree with you on the 1400 stat too much for the average Japanese home....and I think it's likely to shit like Coligny mentioned, about counting toilets, closets, walls, etc. in the figures. Yes, all the unneeded walls and junk can really cramp things up even more. I don't even know why they bother with interior western style doors as many homes I've seen with them have hallways where 2+ doors open into each other

[yanpa]

A lot more people live on houseboats in London now - Although I wonder if it is all year round in many cases. And most of them look blissfully retired.

London houseboat life for the working poor

[kurogane]

French house sizing usually refer to the "habitable" space, that exclude closets, corridors, stairs, loo, bathrooms, balconies, greenhouses and terrace.

Pretty sure japanese sizing include the empty space inside the walls...

Japanese house sizes are whatever the square metres are in the rectangular shell, so yeah, inside area of the outside walls.

I didn't know Ours excluded the area of the accoutrements and facilities; that makes my already too big for me 800 sq ft (70 sq. m. ????) apartment
that much too biggerer for me.

Allowing that those trailer houses are pushing it, most North American homes are silly big, with tons of dead space. Like somebody noted, the big problem in Japanese houses is often layout, not total space. Those pointless corridors that surround the rooms and eat 1/4 of the available space drive me KooKoo. And the hoarding.............gawd..........the hoarding.

[yanpa]

hoarding/junk/washitsu thread continues here

[Samurai_Jerk]

hoarding/junk/washitsu thread continues here

Something strange going on with that link.

[yanpa]

hoarding/junk/washitsu thread continues here

Something strange going on with that link.

Doh, copypasta. Correct link.

[matsuki]

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