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Re: Japan and Dentists?

Postby Coligny » Thu May 22, 2014 8:39 am

Since the proper ID of the aids virus. Quite anal retentive i'd say...

Here, if you think only the dentists are lousy on biosafety, let me tell you aboot a bridge I have to sell...
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Re: Japan and Dentists?

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu May 22, 2014 10:44 am

A Japanese dental hygienist once told me that one of the patients who came to the office that day had hepatitis (I can't remember which one) and so they had to take all these extra precautions to sterilize everything when he left. It was said almost with pride at how seriously they had taken the situation. I pointed out that there are plenty of people who don't know they have things like hep, HIV, etc. and asked if it wouldn't make more sense to take the same precautions every time. She replied with .......... silence and a blank does-not-computer stare.
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Re: Japan and Dentists?

Postby IparryU » Thu May 22, 2014 10:59 am

Well... my friend just had to have oral surgery on Monday due to a root canal that wasn't properly done a decade ago. He had the root canal done in the US and had it fixed in Sapporo.

basically, his face was swollen up like a grapefruit and he was in immense pain. He had no clue why it was hurting cause he had it checked and had no cavities... not sure why the dude checking it could't find out what was wrong.
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Re: Japan and Dentists?

Postby Coligny » Thu May 22, 2014 1:36 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:A Japanese dental hygienist once told me that one of the patients who came to the office that day had hepatitis (I can't remember which one) and so they had to take all these extra precautions to sterilize everything when he left. It was said almost with pride at how seriously they had taken the situation. I pointed out that there are plenty of people who don't know they have things like hep, HIV, etc. and asked if it wouldn't make more sense to take the same precautions every time. She replied with .......... silence and a blank does-not-computer stare.


try to find an anesthesiologist who agrees to work on an operation with an hiv+ patient...

retards... retards everywhere...
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Re: Japan and Dentists?

Postby Wibble » Thu May 22, 2014 2:38 pm

Russell wrote:70% of dentists leave drills inadequately sterilized

Anyone know how the situation is in the western world?


For exactly those reasons, many practices in the west have moved towards single use disposable tools/heads/covers for routine equipment. This can work out a lot cheaper than having doing the cleaning and sterilisation processes and tracking/QCing it plus buying the expensive tools in the first place and sterility is confirmed by the manufacturer. Single use is also becoming more common in other types of surgery and virtually universal in sterile laboratories in the modern world (not in Japan though). Single use tools aren't covered by National Health insurance in Japan, but private dentists do use them for a cost.
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Re: Japan and Dentists?

Postby matsuki » Thu May 22, 2014 4:41 pm

Wibble wrote:
Russell wrote:70% of dentists leave drills inadequately sterilized

Anyone know how the situation is in the western world?


For exactly those reasons, many practices in the west have moved towards single use disposable tools/heads/covers for routine equipment. This can work out a lot cheaper than having doing the cleaning and sterilisation processes and tracking/QCing it plus buying the expensive tools in the first place and sterility is confirmed by the manufacturer. Single use is also becoming more common in other types of surgery and virtually universal in sterile laboratories in the modern world (not in Japan though). Single use tools aren't covered by National Health insurance in Japan, but private dentists do use them for a cost.


Fuuuuuuck, that's some scary shit.
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Re: Japan and Dentists?

Postby Coligny » Thu May 22, 2014 5:03 pm

Disposable tooling is widely used in Japan. Just, not as disposable tooling... since it's not designed to be reused or sterilized it usually fail or deteriorate quite fast...
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Re: Japan and Dentists?

Postby Wibble » Thu May 22, 2014 7:00 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
Fuuuuuuck, that's some scary shit.


Don't worry about the tool splashback, worry about them reusing their gloves. Yum.

Coligny wrote:Disposable tooling is widely used in Japan. Just, not as disposable tooling... since it's not designed to be reused or sterilized it usually fail or deteriorate quite fast...


Well that sounds like a great idea.
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