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Re: The One Percent

Postby Hijinx » Sat May 31, 2014 9:49 am

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Hijinx wrote:I guess if you don't have to leave your cell, then...23 days might be that jump start I need to lose a few pounds. I think I'll go out and get me arrested.


No exercise and a cold white rice diet...not so effective methinks. (unless, of course, you just don't eat)



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Re: The One Percent

Postby wuchan » Sat May 31, 2014 10:14 am

chokonen888 wrote:Damn Wuchan!! Again??

Though I strongly have to agree with this #3 of yours. Acting calmly, politely, and obeying seems to signal to them they can walk all over you. Come across as resisting and you suddenly become more trouble than you're worth. Idle threats like whoa but they can't do much but just keep making more threats.



Ya, I know. I'm trying to quit drinking but work sometimes requires it. Keep in mind that I wasn't the only person they were holding that night. The next morning there were four J-guys also being released. The boss told me that they always have at least three people in the drunk tank each night on the weekend.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Coligny » Sat May 31, 2014 11:18 am

chokonen888 wrote:
Hijinx wrote:I guess if you don't have to leave your cell, then...23 days might be that jump start I need to lose a few pounds. I think I'll go out and get me arrested.


No exercise and a cold white rice diet...not so effective methinks. (unless, of course, you just don't eat)


That livedoor ceo lost quite some weight...

(I soo need a diet...)
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Re: The One Percent

Postby J.A.F.O » Sat May 31, 2014 3:48 pm

Hijinx wrote:Yaks are scum...period! I detest these programs that try to portray them in a more human light ( like gokusen). These guys are the worst scumbags on the planet, bar none.

I have a wet dream where I own a Tantalus field and am able to eliminate all yaks on the planet.


People with the moniker Hijinx are scum...period! I detest these programs that try to portray them in a more human light ( like gokusen). These guys are the worst scumbags on the planet, bar none.

I have a wet dream where I own a Tantalus field and am able to eliminate all People with the moniker Hijinx on the planet.

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Just because you (or I) say something about an entire group of people doesn't make it so. I'm sorry you've had bad experiences with the lot, my experiences are not so. There are quite a few black people I have fought with doesn't mean I wish all blacks ill will.

(replace blacks with other ethnic, ideological, or political group etc if prefered)
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Coligny » Sat May 31, 2014 7:54 pm

Whut !?
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Re: The One Percent

Postby havill » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:46 am

One stat that people never talk about that makes you go "Hmm" when you hear about the 99% stat:

Japan has one of the lowest imprisonment rates in the world: third lowest in the world amongst developed countries: only Iceland and Litchenstein beat it.

51 people imprisoned per 100,000 people.

As you might have guessed, America is #1 by a far margin:

707 people in prison per 100,000 people in the populace.

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Re: The One Percent

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:51 am

Coligny wrote:Whut !?


What he said. :???:

chokonen888 wrote:
Hijinx wrote:I guess if you don't have to leave your cell, then...23 days might be that jump start I need to lose a few pounds. I think I'll go out and get me arrested.


No exercise and a cold white rice diet...not so effective methinks. (unless, of course, you just don't eat)


If you eat few enough calories you'll lose weight regardless of what they feed you.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby IparryU » Sun Jun 01, 2014 3:26 pm

wuchan wrote:spent a nignt in the bin a few days ago.

Approached by a cop that requested my gaijin card. I said "your's first".
he said no, so I walked away. He then tried to put me in a headlock which resulted in him on his back.

I backed off and walked away.

two minutes later three more cops try to jump on me without saying a word. I dump them and walk away.

About 30 munites later and about 500 meters traveled I am finally taken down by about ten cops. They managed to secure my hands with what seemed like a karate belt and my feet with a velcro camera strap. By the time we all reached the station my feet were free, shortly after I was running through the station.

At this point the boss was wondering why there was a half drunk white guy running arround with his hands bound like a headless chicken.

Finally someone told me that they would release me if I stood still. The boss asked me what happened and I told him that no one showed me ID. He wasn't happy. He was pretty pissed, not at me but at his staff. In the end he thanked me for being "strong" and let me sleep in his office. We ended up having some drinks and he shared some useful informaton.

1: If the cops can't controll you and can't prove that you broke the law, they will let you go.

2: The court needs more than the word of the police to convict you.

3: They respect you more when you resist.

We need to kick it.

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Re: The One Percent

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:36 pm

IparryU wrote:
wuchan wrote:spent a nignt in the bin a few days ago.

Approached by a cop that requested my gaijin card. I said "your's first".
he said no, so I walked away. He then tried to put me in a headlock which resulted in him on his back.

I backed off and walked away.

two minutes later three more cops try to jump on me without saying a word. I dump them and walk away.

About 30 munites later and about 500 meters traveled I am finally taken down by about ten cops. They managed to secure my hands with what seemed like a karate belt and my feet with a velcro camera strap. By the time we all reached the station my feet were free, shortly after I was running through the station.

At this point the boss was wondering why there was a half drunk white guy running arround with his hands bound like a headless chicken.

Finally someone told me that they would release me if I stood still. The boss asked me what happened and I told him that no one showed me ID. He wasn't happy. He was pretty pissed, not at me but at his staff. In the end he thanked me for being "strong" and let me sleep in his office. We ended up having some drinks and he shared some useful informaton.

1: If the cops can't controll you and can't prove that you broke the law, they will let you go.

2: The court needs more than the word of the police to convict you.

3: They respect you more when you resist.

We need to kick it.

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Re: The One Percent

Postby J.A.F.O » Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:47 am

Coligny wrote:Whut !?


Sometime a statement gets my fur up and depending on my BAC I come back with stupid diatribe.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Yokohammer » Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:17 am

J.A.F.O wrote:
Coligny wrote:Whut !?


Sometime a statement gets my fur up and depending on my BAC I come back with stupid diatribe.

I totally got it (in fact, you sorta beat me to it).
The presentation might have been a bit confrontational, but I thought the spirit of your "diatribe" was right on.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Coligny » Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:44 am

Yokohammer wrote:
J.A.F.O wrote:
Coligny wrote:Whut !?


Sometime a statement gets my fur up and depending on my BAC I come back with stupid diatribe.

I totally got it (in fact, you sorta beat me to it).
The presentation might have been a bit confrontational, but I thought the spirit of your "diatribe" was right on.


Can we have the cliff notes version ?
Or self titled scums group should not be defamed because as a group there is a statistical chance that one or more of them is mother theresa !?
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:40 am

Yokohammer wrote:
J.A.F.O wrote:
Coligny wrote:Whut !?


Sometime a statement gets my fur up and depending on my BAC I come back with stupid diatribe.

I totally got it (in fact, you sorta beat me to it).
The presentation might have been a bit confrontational, but I thought the spirit of your "diatribe" was right on.


Comparing Yakuza to oppressed minorities is fucking ridiculous.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Yokohammer » Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:49 am

Coligny wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:
J.A.F.O wrote:
Coligny wrote:Whut !?


Sometime a statement gets my fur up and depending on my BAC I come back with stupid diatribe.

I totally got it (in fact, you sorta beat me to it).
The presentation might have been a bit confrontational, but I thought the spirit of your "diatribe" was right on.


Can we have the cliff notes version ?
Or self titled scums group should not be defamed because as a group there is a statistical chance that one or more of them is mother theresa !?

I'm out at the moment and can't provide a full explanation from my phone, but if you do a little research into the origins of the Yakuza, you'll probably see that they once had a legitimate role in society, and were recognized and even recruited by the government for some jobs. There is obviously a criminal element today, which is clearly bad, but the Yakuza being all "bad" by definition is a bit of an overstatement. They are now outlaws in the eyes of the government and police, at least publicly, and that has caused the criminal element to expand. But you can be sure that there are still close connections between the government and law enforcement agencies that are not likely to be broken anytime soon. To make a long story short ... it's not all human trafficking and drugs, etc. It's not necessarily and entirely a group of scumbags. I would keep my distance if I were you, however.

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Re: The One Percent

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:13 am

Yokohammer wrote:
Coligny wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:
J.A.F.O wrote:
Coligny wrote:Whut !?


Sometime a statement gets my fur up and depending on my BAC I come back with stupid diatribe.

I totally got it (in fact, you sorta beat me to it).
The presentation might have been a bit confrontational, but I thought the spirit of your "diatribe" was right on.


Can we have the cliff notes version ?
Or self titled scums group should not be defamed because as a group there is a statistical chance that one or more of them is mother theresa !?

I'm out at the moment and can't provide a full explanation from my phone, but if you do a little research into the origins of the Yakuza, you'll probably see that they once had a legitimate role in society, and were recognized and even recruited by the government for some jobs. There is obviously a criminal element today, which is clearly bad, but the Yakuza being all "bad" by definition is a bit of an overstatement. They are now outlaws in the eyes of the government and police, at least publicly, and that has caused the criminal element to expand. But you can be sure that there are still close connections between the government and law enforcement agencies that are not likely to be broken anytime soon. To make a long story short ... it's not all human trafficking and drugs, etc. It's not necessarily and entirely a group of scumbags. I would keep my distance if I were you, however.

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That's an indictment of the government and law enforcement not a defense of the Yakuza.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Yokohammer » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:17 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:
J.A.F.O wrote:
Coligny wrote:Whut !?


Sometime a statement gets my fur up and depending on my BAC I come back with stupid diatribe.

I totally got it (in fact, you sorta beat me to it).
The presentation might have been a bit confrontational, but I thought the spirit of your "diatribe" was right on.


Comparing Yakuza to oppressed minorities is fucking ridiculous.

I'm not so sure, if you consider how they became what they are today. Comparison with the Burakumin and Eta actually make sense. I'm not defending the Yakuza, but I am saying that it's not all black and white.

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Re: The One Percent

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:23 am

Yokohammer wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:
J.A.F.O wrote:
Coligny wrote:Whut !?


Sometime a statement gets my fur up and depending on my BAC I come back with stupid diatribe.

I totally got it (in fact, you sorta beat me to it).
The presentation might have been a bit confrontational, but I thought the spirit of your "diatribe" was right on.


Comparing Yakuza to oppressed minorities is fucking ridiculous.

I'm not so sure, if you consider how they became what they are today. Comparison with the Burakumin and Eta actually make sense. I'm not defending the Yakuza, but I am saying that it's not all black and white.

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I understand why lack of opportunity leads certain groups to become Yakauza. However, that's not the same thing as:

Just because you (or I) say something about an entire group of people doesn't make it so. I'm sorry you've had bad experiences with the lot, my experiences are not so. There are quite a few black people I have fought with doesn't mean I wish all blacks ill will.

(replace blacks with other ethnic, ideological, or political group etc if prefered)


That's a big leap on JAFO's part.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Yokohammer » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:24 am

That too!

Edit: srange. I tried to quote your post, but failed somehow. I was referring to it being an indictment of govt.

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Re: The One Percent

Postby J.A.F.O » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:57 am

Really all I was trying to get at is for a guy to come out and say that all Yaks deserve to die is ridiculous to me. My big leap is that I adjudicate a person's character on an individual basis. If you're an asshole then you're an asshole and deserve what you get. If your stand up guy then I'll support you regardless of your status or affiliations. I'm also not saying I'm right by doing this either.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Coligny » Tue Jun 03, 2014 1:16 am

You know that you make much more sense when you are sober...

The polar opposite on littul meee....
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Re: The One Percent

Postby kurogane » Tue Jun 03, 2014 7:23 am

Hey JAFO,

I enjoyed your rant and got the sentiment right away, but I completely agree with SamJerk. Being Black is not in any way commensurate to Being Yak: one is ascriptive, and the other associative (just to whip some sociology out of my pud). Yaks choose to be who and what they are, and what they are are parasitic, scumsucking POS (as Yaks).

OTOH, I have drunk with quite a few and the touchiness and Tony Soprano level spastic hair-trigger tempers aside, if they're nice enough guys that's fine with me. I would still prefer to hear that every mother loving one of them has been jailed for an indefinite period, but that's because of what they choose to do not because of who they are at the bar. Still, your lofty sentiments aside, defending Yaks is a touch like supporting NAMBLA because paedos are people too. MYHOMO, of course.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby J.A.F.O » Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:39 am

Coligny wrote:You know that you make much more sense when you are sober...

The polar opposite on littul meee....


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Re: The One Percent

Postby J.A.F.O » Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:57 pm

kurogane wrote:Hey JAFO,

I enjoyed your rant and got the sentiment right away, but I completely agree with SamJerk. Being Black is not in any way commensurate to Being Yak: one is ascriptive, and the other associative (just to whip some sociology out of my pud).

OTOH, I have drunk with quite a few and the touchiness and Tony Soprano level spastic hair-trigger tempers aside, if they're nice enough guys that's fine with me. I would still prefer to hear that every mother loving one of them has been jailed for an indefinite period, but that's because of what they choose to do not because of who they are at the bar. Besides, even the weirdo Ultraman nationalist types love me to death: I speak nice Japakneez and my achievements in Japan are merit based. Until we get onto domestic politics, that is, because I would vote Japan Communist every time. Still, your lofty sentiments aside, defending Yaks is a touch like supporting NAMBLA because paedos are people too. MYHOMO, of course.


OK fair enough, even in my alcohol induced tirades I did put in parenthesis that you could interchange black for another non ethnically derived group if black doesn't suit you. Guys running pachinko (although not wonderful) bother me a lot less than chimpira types. Just a personal opinion and pretty much worthless. But then again I also live in backwards oki. I'm also sure my opinion would change if I was around with osakan or tokyo type yaks but then it might not.

Also
kurogane wrote:Yaks choose to be who and what they are, and what they are are parasitic, scumsucking POS (as Yaks).
this is subjective as well based on personal opinion or personal experience. I have met a few people on the Boston PD who think the exact same thing of blacks as you have stated about yaks. Their personal opinion (one that I personally don't agree with)

kurogane wrote:I would still prefer to hear that every mother loving one of them has been jailed for an indefinite period, but that's because of what they choose to do not because of who they are at the bar
I pretty much agree with this and trying to point this out. If you commit serious crime (Something other than victimless crime) Then you need to be tried and punished accordingly.

kurogane wrote:defending Yaks is a touch like supporting NAMBLA because paedos are people too. MYHOMO, of course.
I never met a member of NAMBLA so couldn't tell you but that again goes to my point, I never supported yaks entirely as a group or what they do. I am just against the broad brush elimination of a group of people just because most of them don't fit in with what most consider "good"

Taking a group like NAMBLA is kinda like using the NAZI argument though.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:28 pm

J.A.F.O wrote:Also
kurogane wrote:Yaks choose to be who and what they are, and what they are are parasitic, scumsucking POS (as Yaks).
this is subjective as well based on personal opinion or personal experience. I have met a few people on the Boston PD who think the exact same thing of blacks as you have stated about yaks. Their personal opinion (one that I personally don't agree with)


You can be black without being a gangster. Not true of Yakuza. The Yakuza are gangsters. The legitimate businesses they have are for money laundering. Just because you met some guys who were cool to have a beer with doesn't mean they aren't criminals or scumbags. Treating you well has nothing to do with whether or not someone is generally a stand-up guy. Forget about drugs, gambling, and prostitution (as long as we aren't talking about human trafficking) because we can have an argument over whether or not those things should be legal. A lot of their income is from the old school protection racket of forcing mom-and-pop shops to pay fees so nothing bad happens to their business. You can get into all kinds moral relativism and say it's not much different from government and taxes but if you go down that path we start approaching argumentum ad absurdum. I had a few friends growing up that were criminals that I would trust with my life. That doesn't mean they were decent people and that they didn't deserve to get locked up which they eventually did.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby J.A.F.O » Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:20 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
J.A.F.O wrote:Also
kurogane wrote:Yaks choose to be who and what they are, and what they are are parasitic, scumsucking POS (as Yaks).
this is subjective as well based on personal opinion or personal experience. I have met a few people on the Boston PD who think the exact same thing of blacks as you have stated about yaks. Their personal opinion (one that I personally don't agree with)


You can be black without being a gangster. Not true of Yakuza. The Yakuza are gangsters. The legitimate businesses they have are for money laundering. Just because you met some guys who were cool to have a beer with doesn't mean they aren't criminals or scumbags. Treating you well has nothing to do with whether or not someone is generally a stand-up guy. Forget about drugs, gambling, and prostitution (as long as we aren't talking about human trafficking) because we can have an argument over whether or not those things should be legal. A lot of their income is from the old school protection racket of forcing mom-and-pop shops to pay fees so nothing bad happens to their business. You can get into all kinds moral relativism and say it's not much different from government and taxes but if you go down that path we start approaching argumentum ad absurdum. I had a few friends growing up that were criminals that I would trust with my life. That doesn't mean they were decent people and that they didn't deserve to get locked up which they eventually did.


I'm not talking black gangsters I'm talking straight racist cops that would just assume EVERY black is better when they are a dead black.

Pretty much as I stated above I agree with the general sentiment. You commit crimes you deserve what you get. I didn't dispute that. I disputed one guy who (even in jest) stated having a nocturnal emission for offing hundreds of people judge/jury/executioner style. People like that concern me way more, and are not much better than the people who they condemn.... Look guys I'm sorry for pushing it this far. I'm really trying to be reasonable, but maybe I'm not, maybe Hijinx is right. If he is right then I want no part of it and I couldn't stand by in good conscious and be silent. Where I was raised silence = tacit consent. I'll be damned first.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Coligny » Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:39 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
J.A.F.O wrote:Also
kurogane wrote:Yaks choose to be who and what they are, and what they are are parasitic, scumsucking POS (as Yaks).
this is subjective as well based on personal opinion or personal experience. I have met a few people on the Boston PD who think the exact same thing of blacks as you have stated about yaks. Their personal opinion (one that I personally don't agree with)


You can be black without being a gangster. Not true of Yakuza. The Yakuza are gangsters. The legitimate businesses they have are for money laundering. Just because you met some guys who were cool to have a beer with doesn't mean they aren't criminals or scumbags. ...



I feel like on a bad acetone trip...

Not the fact that I'm reading this...

The fact that S.J. Had to write and explain it..
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Re: The One Percent

Postby J.A.F.O » Tue Jun 03, 2014 11:48 pm

Coligny wrote:I feel like on a bad acetone trip...

Not the fact that I'm reading this...

The fact that S.J. Had to write and explain it..


I have some Grey Goose left if you want some, better than acetone?
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Coligny » Wed Jun 04, 2014 12:37 am

Not sure, I have a reaction to acetone triggering migraines leading to blackout and near complete paralysis for up to 48h... Spend few stressfull times lying on my back barely able to breath staring at the ceiling not even able to move my head. Lucky I had not cats back then or I'm pretty sure I would have been eaten alive... (Hey, that would make for a saw prequel... "Saw -2, hungry pussies"
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Re: The One Percent

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:08 am

Coligny wrote:The fact that S.J. Had to write and explain it..


Seems like it's failed sink in yet though because JAFO is still comparing hatred of blacks to hatred of Yakuza.
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Re: The One Percent

Postby J.A.F.O » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:07 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
Coligny wrote:The fact that S.J. Had to write and explain it..


Seems like it's failed sink in yet though because JAFO is still comparing hatred of blacks to hatred of Yakuza.


Pretty much has failed to sink, when you assumed I was talking about black gangsters when I was clearly referring to ALL blacks. But AGAIN I also pointed out you can use just about group of people. The Cathers and Waldensies were wiped out by the Catholic Church because they were considered "Evil" people at the time for teaching a doctrine that went awry of Catholicism. Black people tend to be a convenient whipping boy (sad to say) but it's quick to recognize. Want more examples? let me know. argumentum ad absurdum here we come. You can shoot down any example I give because trying to convince a person against his will is of the same opinion still.

The POINT that keeps getting evaded from is that this has NOTHING to do with BLACKS or YAKUZA, or any other stripe.
J.A.F.O wrote:(replace blacks with other ethnic, ideological, or political group etc if prefered)

Prejudgement of entire groups rubs me the wrong way and Carte blanche elimination of ANY group of people is bull shit.

Hatred is hatred.

Look, I got all day, hell I got the next 25 to life here in Japan. I've litigated with the best of them. So we can keep going at this or you can write me off as simple minded, ignorant, or just plane stubborn (pick your adjective). If that's what helps you get through the day man, that's cool with me. I never claimed to be more than that anyway. I'd rather just share a few pints with you.
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