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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby kurogane » Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:57 pm

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chokonen888 wrote:Blue moon


Uh oh. The beer snobs are going to take you to task. :rolleyes:


Without wanting to sound like they I slag, the accepted term is actually Beer Fag, or Beer Homo. Or even Nose-led Plebby Lemming Hipster Douchebag.

The jury is still out on Hijinx, but there's an easy enough metric, so we'll wait, and we'll watch.

BTW, I feel I am confused of late: is the currenmt part of the discussion now centred on White Beer that isn't even real beer? Wouldn't that be like a sort of "ironic double irony" that the shit beer made by collaborationist surrender monkeys or actual Nazis that people clam isn't shit isn't even beer? :shock: :robot:


I feel a need for Yebisu. Hao, Yebisu.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:50 pm

kurogane wrote:
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chokonen888 wrote:Blue moon


Uh oh. The beer snobs are going to take you to task. :rolleyes:


Without wanting to sound like they I slag, the accepted term is actually Beer Fag, or Beer Homo. Or even Nose-led Plebby Lemming Hipster Douchebag.

The jury is still out on Hijinx, but there's an easy enough metric, so we'll wait, and we'll watch.

BTW, I feel I am confused of late: is the currenmt part of the discussion now centred on White Beer that isn't even real beer? Wouldn't that be like a sort of "ironic double irony" that the shit beer made by collaborationist surrender monkeys or actual Nazis that people clam isn't shit isn't even beer? :shock: :robot:


I feel a need for Yebisu. Hao, Yebisu.


What I wonder is whether or not Japanese brewers could make beer that's as good as some of the Belgian stuff but keep it cheap because it's technically classified as happoshu or happosei. My guess is that if they can and do, the gub'ment will close that loophole.

By the way, didn't you get the memo? You can't use homophobic slurs anymore. :rolleyes:
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby kurogane » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:05 pm

So is the actual Belgian stuff also technically what might be called a Happoshu, or is it actually beer? (WTF the difference is there).

What I know and prefer about any beer can be summed up in 2 simple phrases: Yes, or No. If it is called a lager or just Beer, chances are high I might quite like it. As an example: Hao, Yebisu. If there is any visible description of its ingredients or the delicacy and difficulty of the process used to produce it, chances are I won't. As an example, any lemming liked product containing one or more of the following terms: IPA; Ale; Crafted; Hops; White; Ancient; Traditional; Local; carefully selected..................The whole Beer Homo phenomenon here on the Wet Coast is quite simply out of hand. They're media led lemmings doing as they're told and reveling in their imagined anti-corporate individualism as they do so.

And thanks, I must have missed that memo. Don't forget though, mine is the officially official post-homophobic use, in that it revives the old school use to mean Looser without any implied or intended slur on sexual preference.

Besides, anybody that complains about that crap is probably one anyways................. :spin: :violin:
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Mike Oxlong » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:26 pm

I read somewhere that fruit beers and spiced beers are classified as happoshu, but can't remember where I saw it.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:32 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:I read somewhere that fruit beers and spiced beers are classified as happoshu, but can't remember where I saw it.


Yeah, I remember seeing that somewhere too.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby yanpa » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:36 pm

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Mike Oxlong wrote:I read somewhere that fruit beers and spiced beers are classified as happoshu, but can't remember where I saw it.


Yeah, I remember seeing that somewhere too.


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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby kurogane » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:38 pm

Aaaah, okay. I think I am starting to get it. So like SJ said, if Japanese brewers were able to manipulate the definitional gymnastics part they would be looking at a potential windfall, which would then be closed by the government.

About the only complaint I have about Japanese beer is that 12 bottles seems to cost 12 times more than 1 bottle...........and 24 .......24 times more than 1. Is that still true with Costco and Yamaya and those guys around? I have a vague memory of my ex telling me it was cheaper to buy 12 singles than a boxed case of 12 because the latter had a convenience premium, but that was in like 1990. I prefer to drink my beer in bars anyways, but it's a weird pricing regime if it's true.

EDIT: I just checked the Yamaya site. If you buy a case of a mere 30 bottles you get a whopping 10 yen ber bottle discount. That's 300 yen cheaper than 30 single bottles!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope you boys are strapped in; Japan is thundering into the 1980s at an alarming pace.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby yanpa » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:50 pm

Seiyu is tipping in the direction of (miniscule) bulk discounts, and they recently went through a phase of random "2 for xxx yen" offers, where "xxx yen" was appreciably less than double the unit price.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Hijinx » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:25 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:Yeah, there are a couple of shitty ones for sure. When I lived in Seattle hef was my beer of choice though I can't remember which one I used to drink all the time anymore. Getting old, I guess.



Widmer? With a lemon? Nice summer beer...or any other time you feel like one.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Hijinx » Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:27 pm

kurogane wrote:
The jury is still out on Hijinx, but there's an easy enough metric, so we'll wait, and we'll watch.


I bought off the jury. Drink a beer while you wait.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby matsuki » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:45 am

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chokonen888 wrote:Blue moon


Uh oh. The beer snobs are going to take you to task. :rolleyes:


LOL, my bad...the only think I got in my defense is I prefer Pyramid and then go to Blue Moon is Pyramid is unavailable. At the end of the night, the results are usually the same :-D
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby kurogane » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:29 am

Is Blue Moon a nice quaff? I seem to remember seeing that at the store here (in BC). Also, do they make real beer, or just icky hipster stuff? I wish we could get Rolling Rock up here. Labatt's redoes it, but it tastes like Labatt's, which is always a shame.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby kurogane » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:35 am

Hijinx wrote: I bought off the jury. Drink a beer while you wait.


Well, if they've been bought, what's to wait for? BTW, the measure in question is the use of external validation when describing the hipster brew in question, especially the naming of a specific Beer Critic, while at the same time criticising other beers in purely subjective terms or resorting to social snobbery. That drives me batty. You never seem to do that, and personal taste and preference is unassailable, so I raise my real beer and say, Carry On, Young Carson (insert generic hipster name here), and may your fake horn rimmed glasses and porkpie hat worn at a jaunty angle serve you well. If you lack either of those Beer Hipster sine qua non I can stop at the charity shop on the way to the airport. :biggrin2:
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Hijinx » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:32 am

I despise hipsters. And I've put in the time and pints to say whatever I want about beer...even when I'm sober. :cheers:
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby IparryU » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:10 pm

That's why i just stick to canned chuhais and whiskey. Can't go wrong with that.

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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby kurogane » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:17 pm

IparryU wrote:That's why i just stick to canned chuhais and whiskey. Can't go wrong with that.

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You would choose a canned Chuhai over a Sapporo or Kirin??????????? :shock: Do you use a girl's name for when you're drinking it??? :razz: (JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

I never got the whiskey thing, but people do seem to enjoy it.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby matsuki » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:32 pm

In his defense, it's the "Super hard" hahaha lemon chuhai which seems like nothing more than lemon scented, carbonated, shochu. (But we probably have every flavor of chuhai under the sun in the fridge for lemurs)
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Mike Oxlong » Mon Jun 09, 2014 2:42 pm

chokonen888 wrote:In his defense, it's the "Super hard" hahaha lemon chuhai which seems like nothing more than lemon scented, carbonated, shochu. (But we probably have every flavor of chuhai under the sun in the fridge for lemurs)

And here I though you used the time honored pickup line of, "Here! Smell my handkerchief...". :mrgreen:
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:25 pm

chokonen888 wrote:In his defense, it's the "Super hard" hahaha lemon chuhai which seems like nothing more than lemon scented, carbonated, shochu. (But we probably have every flavor of chuhai under the sun in the fridge for lemurs)


A real chu-hi is supposed to be shochu but most of the cheap canned ones are made with vodka. I'll drink them over happoshu but they definitely aren't better than beer. Though, when I'm hanging out at my favorite shitamachi izakayas I'm all about the shochu highballs.


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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby matsuki » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:45 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:In his defense, it's the "Super hard" hahaha lemon chuhai which seems like nothing more than lemon scented, carbonated, shochu. (But we probably have every flavor of chuhai under the sun in the fridge for lemurs)


A real chu-hi is supposed to be shochu but most of the cheap canned ones are made with vodka. I'll drink them over happoshu but they definitely aren't better than beer. Though, when I'm hanging out at my favorite shitamachi izakayas I'm all about the shochu highballs.


Got nuthin' against highballs as long as I don't go home with blueballs.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby yanpa » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:03 pm

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Samurai_Jerk wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:In his defense, it's the "Super hard" hahaha lemon chuhai which seems like nothing more than lemon scented, carbonated, shochu. (But we probably have every flavor of chuhai under the sun in the fridge for lemurs)


A real chu-hi is supposed to be shochu but most of the cheap canned ones are made with vodka. I'll drink them over happoshu but they definitely aren't better than beer. Though, when I'm hanging out at my favorite shitamachi izakayas I'm all about the shochu highballs.


Got nuthin' against highballs as long as I don't go home with blueballs.


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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby matsuki » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:25 pm

You can't Kanchou it? (what better way to handle happoshu?!)
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby IparryU » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:27 pm

chokonen888 wrote:In his defense, it's the "Super hard" hahaha lemon chuhai which seems like nothing more than lemon scented, carbonated, shochu. (But we probably have every flavor of chuhai under the sun in the fridge for lemurs)

LOL, yup, i gots me a hockey defender to defend me on the net ;p

yes, i just stocked the fridge up with some more fufu drinks and my own. Need to get some more whiskey come to think of it... only gots a couple shots left.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:40 pm

IparryU wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:In his defense, it's the "Super hard" hahaha lemon chuhai which seems like nothing more than lemon scented, carbonated, shochu. (But we probably have every flavor of chuhai under the sun in the fridge for lemurs)

LOL, yup, i gots me a hockey defender to defend me on the net ;p

yes, i just stocked the fridge up with some more fufu drinks and my own. Need to get some more whiskey come to think of it... only gots a couple shots left.


I keep it really ghetto when I drink outside for hanami, BBQs, and the like lately. I buy a bag of ice, the cheapest fifth of Japanese whiskey I can find, and some coke. That usually keeps me busy till the nijikai.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Hijinx » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:17 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:Blue moon


Uh oh. The beer snobs are going to take you to task. :rolleyes:


Depends. Is it snobbish to snub an way overpriced (in Japan) mediocre beer by Coors? Seems to me that snobs drink expensive crap because it's "in." But hey, if you like it, drink it--I won't begrudge anyone that.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Mike Oxlong » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:21 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:I keep it really ghetto when I drink outside for hanami, BBQs, and the like lately. I buy a bag of ice, the cheapest fifth of Japanese whiskey I can find, and some coke. That usually keeps me busy till the nijikai.

That reminds me of a prof that used to insist that any grad student worth their salt could defend their thesis after having consumed a fifth of whisky.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Hijinx » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:28 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:That reminds me of a prof that used to insist that any grad student worth their salt could defend their thesis after having consumed a fifth of whisky.


Especially if it were on whisky.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby J.A.F.O » Mon Jun 09, 2014 11:34 pm

IparryU wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:In his defense, it's the "Super hard" hahaha lemon chuhai which seems like nothing more than lemon scented, carbonated, shochu. (But we probably have every flavor of chuhai under the sun in the fridge for lemurs)

LOL, yup, i gots me a hockey defender to defend me on the net ;p

yes, i just stocked the fridge up with some more fufu drinks and my own. Need to get some more whiskey come to think of it... only gots a couple shots left.


Finished of a batch of mead. Gonna need a few months to age but all in all really good stuff.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby dimwit » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:07 am

The problem which drinking mead is that it makes you want to join the Society for Creative Anachronism.
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Re: Japanese beer is shit

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Jun 10, 2014 12:57 am

Hijinx wrote:
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chokonen888 wrote:Blue moon


Uh oh. The beer snobs are going to take you to task. :rolleyes:


Depends. Is it snobbish to snub an way overpriced (in Japan) mediocre beer by Coors? Seems to me that snobs drink expensive crap because it's "in." But hey, if you like it, drink it--I won't begrudge anyone that.


Beef fag.

dimwit wrote:The problem which drinking mead is that it makes you want to join the Society for Creative Anachronism.


The problem with drinking mead is it tastes like mead.
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