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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:20 pm

Female Tokyo assembly member endures sexual harassment: “Can’t you even bear a child?” http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_new ... 1406190024
Tokyo Reporter aka CaptainJapan (@tokyoreporter) June 19, 2014
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@tokyoreporter and the newspaper making things MUCH better by showing her photo while keeping the harassers' names secret.


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Video of Ayaka Shiomura at Tokyo Assembly 東京都議会一般質問での女性都議への悪質なやじが波紋呼ぶ

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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:33 pm

Sexist shouts interrupt Tokyo lawmaker in mothering debate
channelnewsasia.com | 19 Jun 2014 17:02
Sexist jeers from governing party members on Thursday repeatedly interrupted a Tokyo assemblywoman during a debate about how to support child-rearing women in a country facing a population crisis...
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Ayaka Shiomura, 35, was questioning senior figures in the city administration on plans to help current and future mothers when abuse erupted from seats occupied by members of the Liberal Democratic Party of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.
Shouts of "Why don't you get married?" and "Are you not able to have a baby?" could be heard as she spoke, said fellow assembly member Shun Otokita, of Shiomura's opposition Your Party.
Shiomura continued her questioning, despite being reduced to tears, said Otokita.
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Postby IparryU » Thu Jun 19, 2014 7:26 pm

No punishment for him i bet.

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Re: 'Can’t you even bear a child?'

Postby legion » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:34 pm

"Are you not able to have a baby?"


She was in a room full of them
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Postby yanpa » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:03 pm

legion wrote:
"Are you not able to have a baby?"


She was in a room full of them


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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Jun 23, 2014 6:59 pm

IparryU wrote:No punishment for him i bet.


Suzuki Akihiro forced to take the blame as one of Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly harassers. He represents my district in Ota Ward. :confused:
LDP member admits his sexist jeers
NHK engrish | Jun. 23, 2014 - Updated 06:45 UTC
A member of Japan's ruling Liberal Democratic Party admitted he made sexually offensive remarks to a female lawmaker during a Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly meeting. The jeers brought public criticism, and he has apologized.
... Party secretary general of the metropolitan assembly Osamu Yoshiwara told reporters on Monday that LDP member Akihiro Suzuki of Ota district admitted he made sexist jeers.
Yoshiwara said Suzuki will step down from the LDP to take responsibility.
Suzuki met with Your Party member Shiomura and apologized. On Friday Suzuki told reporters he was not one of the hecklers.

(in Japanese) http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20140623...
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Re: 'Can’t you even bear a child?'

Postby IparryU » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:01 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
IparryU wrote:No punishment for him i bet.


Suzuki Akihiro forced to take the blame as one of Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly harassers :confused:
(in Japanese) http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20140623...
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punishment I said...

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Re: 'Can’t you even bear a child?'

Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:08 pm

IparryU wrote:
Taro Toporific wrote:
IparryU wrote:No punishment for him i bet.


Suzuki Akihiro forced to take the blame as one of Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly harassers :confused:
(in Japanese) http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20140623...
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punishment I said...

Suzuki Akihiro was made to take the blame but there were at least three different voices on the video doing the stupid heckling . :evil:
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Postby IparryU » Mon Jun 23, 2014 7:10 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
IparryU wrote:
Taro Toporific wrote:
IparryU wrote:No punishment for him i bet.


Suzuki Akihiro forced to take the blame as one of Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly harassers :confused:
(in Japanese) http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20140623...
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punishment I said...

Suzuki Akihiro was made to take the blame but there were at least three different voices on the video doing the stupid heckling . :evil:

yup... still no punishment.

he ain't the sacrificial goat or anything. same old now and picture shot bullshit.

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Re: 'Can’t you even bear a child?'

Postby Russell » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:11 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
IparryU wrote:
Taro Toporific wrote:
IparryU wrote:No punishment for him i bet.


Suzuki Akihiro forced to take the blame as one of Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly harassers :confused:
(in Japanese) http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20140623...
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punishment I said...

Suzuki Akihiro was made to take the blame but there were at least three different voices on the video doing the stupid heckling . :evil:

So, he was speaking in multiple voices...
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Re: 'Can’t you even bear a child?'

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:25 pm

IparryU wrote:
Taro Toporific wrote:
IparryU wrote:
Taro Toporific wrote:
IparryU wrote:No punishment for him i bet.


Suzuki Akihiro forced to take the blame as one of Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly harassers :confused:
(in Japanese) http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20140623...
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punishment I said...

Suzuki Akihiro was made to take the blame but there were at least three different voices on the video doing the stupid heckling . :evil:

yup... still no punishment.

he ain't the sacrificial goat or anything. same old now and picture shot bullshit.

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Do they have any assembly rules they could even use to punish him for being a cunt?
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Postby IparryU » Mon Jun 23, 2014 10:27 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
IparryU wrote:
Taro Toporific wrote:
IparryU wrote:
Taro Toporific wrote:
IparryU wrote:No punishment for him i bet.


Suzuki Akihiro forced to take the blame as one of Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly harassers :confused:
(in Japanese) http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20140623...
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punishment I said...

Suzuki Akihiro was made to take the blame but there were at least three different voices on the video doing the stupid heckling . :evil:

yup... still no punishment.

he ain't the sacrificial goat or anything. same old now and picture shot bullshit.

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Do they have any assembly rules they could even use to punish him for being a cunt?

It was off the record apparently... That is what some other douche said.

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Re: 'Can’t you even bear a child?'

Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Jun 24, 2014 8:37 am

Douchebag heckler's office got egged last night.
(in Japanese) http://www.asahi.com/articles/ASG6S03GQG6RUTIL07Y.html

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Postby matsuki » Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:52 am

Wish Shiomura would name the others...seems like female vengeance on this one might take care o f the rest.
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Re: 'Can’t you even bear a child?'

Postby IparryU » Tue Jun 24, 2014 11:05 am

Taro Toporific wrote:Douchebag heckler's office got egged last night.
(in Japanese) http://www.asahi.com/articles/ASG6S03GQG6RUTIL07Y.html

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Postby matsuki » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:05 pm

IparryU wrote:
Taro Toporific wrote:Douchebag heckler's office got egged last night.
(in Japanese) http://www.asahi.com/articles/ASG6S03GQG6RUTIL07Y.html

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Well deserved.


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Postby GomiGirl » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:17 pm

The big news is that this has been on the international press. How poor Japan's record of gender inequality in the work place etc etc. Womenomics and how good it will be if Abe's plan actually succeeds etc.

But this guy has been made to fall onto his sword probably for a sempai but it will just be business as usual next week. *sigh*
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Postby matsuki » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:29 pm

GomiGirl wrote:The big news is that this has been on the international press. How poor Japan's record of gender inequality in the work place etc etc. Womenomics and how good it will be if Abe's plan actually succeeds etc.

But this guy has been made to fall onto his sword probably for a sempai but it will just be business as usual next week. *sigh*


I will never understand the whole "take one for the team sempai" mentality in situations like this...the insults and such were definitely a group effort and it's blatantly obvious that this is one of those things where everyone reads between the lines and knows he's taking the blame for his superiors...so why not call all of them out? I know most expect this behavior from them behind closed doors but how dense do you have to be to do it with the cameras rolling? (and anyone else that was there should be calling them out for her, yes?)
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Postby GomiGirl » Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:32 pm

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GomiGirl wrote:The big news is that this has been on the international press. How poor Japan's record of gender inequality in the work place etc etc. Womenomics and how good it will be if Abe's plan actually succeeds etc.

But this guy has been made to fall onto his sword probably for a sempai but it will just be business as usual next week. *sigh*


I will never understand the whole "take one for the team sempai" mentality in situations like this...the insults and such were definitely a group effort and it's blatantly obvious that this is one of those things where everyone reads between the lines and knows he's taking the blame for his superiors...so why not call all of them out? I know most expect this behavior from them behind closed doors but how dense do you have to be to do it with the cameras rolling?


Well there has been an apology, bowing and lots of "please forgive me, I will never do it again" 's so the wa has been restored and everything is right with the world again... isn't that how it works? :roll:
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Postby IparryU » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:09 pm

GomiGirl wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:
GomiGirl wrote:The big news is that this has been on the international press. How poor Japan's record of gender inequality in the work place etc etc. Womenomics and how good it will be if Abe's plan actually succeeds etc.

But this guy has been made to fall onto his sword probably for a sempai but it will just be business as usual next week. *sigh*


I will never understand the whole "take one for the team sempai" mentality in situations like this...the insults and such were definitely a group effort and it's blatantly obvious that this is one of those things where everyone reads between the lines and knows he's taking the blame for his superiors...so why not call all of them out? I know most expect this behavior from them behind closed doors but how dense do you have to be to do it with the cameras rolling?


Well there has been an apology, bowing and lots of "please forgive me, I will never do it again" 's so the wa has been restored and everything is right with the world again... isn't that how it works? :roll:

sadly... yes.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:15 pm

Japan PM Abe invites women to "Shine" in new govt blog for working women, doesn't mention sexist heckling.
pic.twitter.com/MpJRElfaT2 --- Hiroko Tabuchi (@HirokoTabuchi)'s twitter June 24, 2014
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He can't tell "Shine" from "Shinola."
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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:20 am

Japan PM Abe invites women to "Shine" in new govt blog for working women, doesn't mention sexist heckling.


Japan’s Prime Minister trying to make up for sexist remarks accidentally tells women to die.
pic.twitter.com/a6BSYEhN1D --- Jake Adelstein/中本哲史 (@jakeadelstein) June 25, 2014
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Postby Coligny » Thu Jun 26, 2014 1:26 am

Well... The guy is a geek... No wonder he's afraid of the pussy...

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Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:23 am

Identities of sexist hecklers remain a mystery as Tokyo assembly dodges duty
Mainichi | June 25, 2014
The Tokyo Metropolitan Assembly, the body presiding over preparations for the capital's second Olympic Games, has proven incapable of self-correction.
One week after 35-year-old Ayaka Shiomura became the target of sexist jeers from an unspecified number of her fellow metropolitan councillors, the assembly voted not to force 51-year-old Akihiro Suzuki -- the only culprit to come forward -- to apologize to the chamber. What's more, it also voted against pursuing the identities of the other hecklers, in effect burying the issue as fast as it possibly could.
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Postby matsuki » Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:43 pm

Japan...where politicians can vote against investigating themselves. WTF?

On the other hand, this lemur is starting to look like so many martyrs here...

Tokyo Sports also asked about her appearances on the Nippon Television program “Much Ado About Love.” On one show from 2007, she boasted of having taken 15 million yen from a man as compensation for ending a relationship, because, as she said, “You can’t break up for nothing.”


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Suddenly, I got no sympathy for the bitch...but that don't (Takelogic) let the cronies off the hook either.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Jun 27, 2014 12:47 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Japan...where politicians can vote against investigating themselves. WTF?


Unfortunately, that's not just in Japan. And though these guys are fucking pricks, what they did isn't the kind of scandal that actually hurts anyone other than themselves.
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Postby matsuki » Fri Jun 27, 2014 1:57 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:Japan...where politicians can vote against investigating themselves. WTF?


Unfortunately, that's not just in Japan. And though these guys are fucking pricks, what they did isn't the kind of scandal that actually hurts anyone other than themselves.


True, and yeah, not like what happened is criminal...just a good place to make a point and have some jiji's bow out (and be replaced by probably the same types) but by publicly brushing it under the rug I think they've made it a bigger deal than it originally was. Whether that leads to more backlash here, who knows, but it is getting a good deal of coverage outside of Japan.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:05 pm

Here We Go Again ...
With no maternity leave, Osaka assemblywoman harassed for giving birth
The Asahi Shimbun / June 27, 2014
OSAKA--After Mayu Murakami became the first incumbent Osaka city assembly member to give birth, her colleagues called her a selfish rule-breaker, a remuneration thief and a betrayer of the public.
According to Murakami’s accounts, one assemblyman yelled at her, “You should apologize to voters for having a baby.”
Treatment of women in Japan became a hot topic after Ayaka Shiomura, a Tokyo metropolitan assemblywoman, was targeted by sexist heckling during her presentation on measures to increase the birthrate.
Now, Murakami and other female politicians are speaking out about what they describe as a structural defect in local politics that works against women trying to juggle motherhood and a political career and can lead to incessant harassment.
The key problem, they say, is that most local assemblies in Japan still do not have a maternity leave system.
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Postby IparryU » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:18 am

So now all the other incidents will get coverage, but fuck all will be done.
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