Random Nihonjin Video of the Day

[IparryU]

Choko at 2.38???

I don't look that Euro/white do I?

Ya... Sorta looked like you, but you have more hair... Maybe if you thin up and bald a bit you would look more European like dude does.

[Takechanpoo]

tragedy of men who wrongly or intentionally(for protest) get ride on "woman only" vehicle

btw no legal basis for "woman only" vehicle

[Wage Slave]

btw no legal basis for "woman only" vehicle

Are you sure? There is a proven need for them and presumably the railway company has the right to set terms and conditions in accordance with its operational needs. The only way it could be an illegal, given it is a public service, is if it could be shown to be willfully and unfairly discriminatory. However, I thought the law on discrimination in Japan was very weak and further there is good justification. Is it even possible to argue that men are damaged by it? It is not as if they can't catch the train or the women only carriages are better quality is it?

[Russell]

btw no legal basis for "woman only" vehicle

Are you sure? There is a proven need for them and presumably the railway company has the right to set terms and conditions in accordance with its operational needs. The only way it could be an illegal, given it is a public service, is if it could be shown to be willfully and unfairly discriminatory. However, I thought the law on discrimination in Japan was very weak and further there is good justification. Is it even possible to argue that men are damaged by it? It is not as if they can't catch the train or the women only carriages are better quality is it?

The men could argue that there is more eye candy in the women-only carriages, but even that I doubt after a few experiences of entering them inadvertently and being stared away by them lesbiun types...

[Samurai_Jerk]

btw no legal basis for "woman only" vehicle

Are you sure? There is a proven need for them and presumably the railway company has the right to set terms and conditions in accordance with its operational needs. The only way it could be an illegal, given it is a public service, is if it could be shown to be willfully and unfairly discriminatory. However, I thought the law on discrimination in Japan was very weak and further there is good justification. Is it even possible to argue that men are damaged by it? It is not as if they can't catch the train or the women only carriages are better quality is it?

There's no need or justification. If women can't handle riding the train during rush hour like the rest of us, they should be banned from riding altogether. The women only cars do cause inconvenience. I've missed a train because of one before and they often lead to the surrounding cars being more crowded than necessary.

[Wage Slave]

btw no legal basis for "woman only" vehicle

Are you sure? There is a proven need for them and presumably the railway company has the right to set terms and conditions in accordance with its operational needs. The only way it could be an illegal, given it is a public service, is if it could be shown to be willfully and unfairly discriminatory. However, I thought the law on discrimination in Japan was very weak and further there is good justification. Is it even possible to argue that men are damaged by it? It is not as if they can't catch the train or the women only carriages are better quality is it?

There's no need or justification. If women can't handle riding the train during rush hour like the rest of us, they should be banned from riding altogether. The women only cars do cause inconvenience. I've missed a train because of one before and they often lead to the surrounding cars being more crowded than necessary.

Fair enough - I haven't ever had to commute here. From my limited experience of rush hour travelling in Nagoya the women's carriages seemed just as crowded as the others.

But there is a justification isn't there? The high incidence of pretty disgusting and serious sexual assault made it necessary.

[Samurai_Jerk]

But there is a justification isn't there? The high incidence of pretty disgusting and serious sexual assault made it necessary.

If it's really so dangerous out there then women should be forced to stay home unless allowed outside by their fathers or husbands and forced to cover up in public.

[Wage Slave]

But there is a justification isn't there? The high incidence of pretty disgusting and serious sexual assault made it necessary.

If it's really so dangerous out there then women should be forced to stay home unless allowed outside by their fathers or husbands and forced to cover up in public.

That's just asinine and anyway from what I have read, covering up wouldn't make a lot of difference. It's shameful it's necessary but necessary it is. However, I'll grant that it is nothing to do with you but you are being inconvenienced none the less which is not fair. Perhaps it should be No Japanese Men carriages? If it's legal and acceptable to put up Japanese Only signs then why not? Sauce/Goose/Gander.

[Russell]

But there is a justification isn't there? The high incidence of pretty disgusting and serious sexual assault made it necessary.

If it's really so dangerous out there then women should be forced to stay home unless allowed outside by their fathers or husbands and forced to cover up in public.

That's just asinine and anyway from what I have read, covering up wouldn't make a lot of difference. It's shameful it's necessary but necessary it is. However, I'll grant that it is nothing to do with you but you are being inconvenienced none the less which is not fair. Perhaps it should be No Japanese Men carriages? If it's legal and acceptable to put up Japanese Only signs then why not? Sauce/Goose/Gander.

It is unfortunate that these carriages are necessary, but there have also been voices to have men-only carriages, because some men have been falsely accused of being a chikan, in the process destroying their whole career and life.

So, when we have that, it is still possible that men in their men-only carriage will be touched by other men, so to deal with that we would need a non-homosexual-men-only carriage.

Of course, so as not to discriminate, we would need a non-homosexual-women-only carriage too.

Then what would be next? A kids-only carriage, for those kids traveling to school without parental supervision, because you never know how many pedophiles are around.

And now we are at it, we need a Frenchmen-only carriage, because of..., well, because of because.

Don't take me wrong, it is terrible that women cannot board a train without the worry not to be assaulted, and I cannot have much sympathy for the men in the videos featured by Takechan, but are those X-only carriages the ultimate solution?

[Samurai_Jerk]

But there is a justification isn't there? The high incidence of pretty disgusting and serious sexual assault made it necessary.

If it's really so dangerous out there then women should be forced to stay home unless allowed outside by their fathers or husbands and forced to cover up in public.

That's just asinine and anyway from what I have read, covering up wouldn't make a lot of difference. It's shameful it's necessary but necessary it is. However, I'll grant that it is nothing to do with you but you are being inconvenienced none the less which is not fair. Perhaps it should be No Japanese Men carriages? If it's legal and acceptable to put up Japanese Only signs then why not? Sauce/Goose/Gander.

It is asinine but men's inability to control themselves is the justification used in the Muslim world to keep women covered up and subservient to male family members. It's also asinine to discriminate against a whole class of people due to the behavior of a few.

I agree with GG's take on women only cars.

I really don't think that this is the right way to handle the groper issue. Anyway this seems to be a bit late as there is not the same problems there used to be. It is just "not cool" to be a groper anymore. Not that it ever was cool but people are talking about it more now which is helpful.

How about telling people if they see a groper or if they are a victim, then it is OK to bitch-slap the loser or otherwise humiliate or if not confident enough themselves to get assistance from someone else in the carriage to help drag them off to the nearest koban.

Just a bit of empowering education for all - not an option to run off and hide away in fear of a small minority of deviants. It is a big bad world out there but it is the wrong message to say that females need to be hidden away and to be protected from something which can easily be solved in other ways. It also perpetuates a deeper paternatistic problem that will not effect social change. This should be a peer support thing as well.. this is unaccecptable behaviour and if you see it then for goodness sake, step in and help your fellow human.

[Coligny]

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They learned from the best worse...

There is a "Brazil" type of solution (the movie, not the country) make the trains have a 2 class system like planes.
Have only one 1rst class car needing special ticket with a limited number for each gender. Don't print any for male, claim they are sold out... De facto woman only cars... No discrimination...

Or even better. Make the subway nudist only, then like for onsen have male and female sides.

Grow a fucking pair and handle gropers and upskirt picture takers upfront... There is always at least two operators in every trains... Can't they do this too ? Back home the train system have its own police force... I think it was to solve jurisdiction issues...

[Wage Slave]

But they is sneaky fuckers - Either can't catch them or can't be sure you've got the right person. Also, I have heard that they wank onto people's clothes and by the time you realise he is already long gone.

In any case, I am not sure that it is reasonable to expect people to constantly be on their guard and expecting to make a citizens arrest every time they travel to and from work. Commuting is bad enough as it is without that. People have a right to a bit of peace/zone out time and if the only way that can be provided is banning men from certain carriages then it's regrettable and shameful but so be it.

In any case, getting back to the question of lack of legality as claimed by TKC Poo. Anyone see a reason why the train company can't impose this condition if they deem it operationally necessary?

[Takechanpoo]

reply from Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism, from the first vid

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only the part of yellow line

女性専用車両については、あくまでも利用者のご理解と任意のご協力のもとに行われているものであり、法的な根拠はありません。

強制的に降車させるような行為は不適切と判断されることから、そのような事実があれば指導して参りたい。

[Wage Slave]

Well I never thought that there was any statutory or criminal basis but there is a contract between the company and the customer and the rules and regulations of the company form part of that contract. If you insist on riding in a women only carriage then you can't be arrested and charged but you can be refused travel. If you resist that or being ejected from the station then you can be arrested and charged for affray or something like that.

[Yokohammer]

Well I never thought that there was any statutory or criminal basis but there is a contract between the company and the customer and the rules and regulations of the company form part of that contract. If you insist on riding in a women only carriage then you can't be arrested and charged but you can be refused travel. If you resist that or being ejected from the station then you can be arrested and charged for affray or something like that.

According to the written response from the rail company that Takechan posted above, the women-only thing is nothing more than a request for cooperation. There is no legal or contractual obligation involved. So you're perfectly within your rights to ride the "women-only" car if the others are packed but the women's car is relatively uncrowded, for example. They also say that forcing a person to exit the car (because they're male) is inappropriate behaviour.

Sorta the converse of women using the men's bathroom during intermission at a theater, for example, because the women's is too crowded (don't laugh, I've seen this happen countless times). Don't think I've ever seen a man tell a woman to leave either.

[Wage Slave]

That's very poor management then. If you are going to have rules then make sure you can enforce them. It would be simple to write it into the T&C of travel and hence contractual.

[Samurai_Jerk]

But they is sneaky fuckers - Either can't catch them or can't be sure you've got the right person. Also, I have heard that they wank onto people's clothes and by the time you realise he is already long gone.

In any case, I am not sure that it is reasonable to expect people to constantly be on their guard and expecting to make a citizens arrest every time they travel to and from work. Commuting is bad enough as it is without that. People have a right to a bit of peace/zone out time and if the only way that can be provided is banning men from certain carriages then it's regrettable and shameful but so be it.

In any case, getting back to the question of lack of legality as claimed by TKC Poo. Anyone see a reason why the train company can't impose this condition if they deem it operationally necessary?

Then why not ban women from going out after dark without an escort? That would certainly make them safer. Besides it's not like they're in a dangerous situation on the trains. Ass grabbing is hardly a serious assault.

I guess it's also reasonable for me to expect blacks to be banned from certain places in the US if I go by statistics.

[matsuki]

If you are going to have rules then make sure you can enforce them.

TIJ, everything is a suggestion until you come across someone having a bad day.

Seriously though, it's 2014...where are the fucking 4k video cameras at?

[Coligny]

You just said it: it's Japan, not Langley...

[Russell]

Sooo, Takechan, it is legal, being in the women-only car as a man.

Now what?!?

Do you really want to go there, and have an Obatarian in your neck all the time?

Just curious, BTW, what you would you propose as a solution to the problem of women assaulted on crowded trains?

[matsuki]

what you would you propose as a solution to the problem of women assaulted on crowded trains?

With all the facial recognition tech, some crazy cameras on the train lines could probably catch more than just naoki "coppafeel" tanaka. Then again, it took how many decades to start to introduce platform barriers in reaction to all the jumpers/drunks/idiots who remind us Darwin is never far away with a "haaa haaa!"

[IparryU]

Just curious, BTW, what you would you propose as a solution to the problem of women assaulted on crowded trains?

Tell them to stand up for themselves and start breaking pinkies.

Seriously, these j-girls need some backbone... but the men don't want that. hell, they want everyone to be fuckin robots and conform to everything.

[Takechanpoo]

the point is that what it really is needed is deterrence toward chikan(痴漢) or chijo(痴女).
(i actually encountered chijo and was groped by them a few times in my high school days.)
so not absolutely necessary to be woman only carriage.
it should be carriage for all ppl who need help(助けが必要な人のための専用車両).
its a good solution, isnt it eh?

[Takechanpoo]

looks like Uchida is well adapted in most racist country on the planet

[Coligny]

Hope they didn't need that gazprom sponsorship too much...

[Takechanpoo]

指詰め finger shortening from 17:46

[Russell]

Hmm, I just stopped short of it.

It was enough to see what tools they used for it.

[Samurai_Jerk]

NSFW

[matsuki]

[Taro Toporific]

Would you put some "electronic makeup" on?
A Rinkya Blog / Aug. 18, 2014
Nobumichi Asai's new work, "Omote Real-time face tracking and projection mapping," shows you how a the face of a model can drastically change with "electronic makeup."
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