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J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby Mike Oxlong » Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:50 pm

Anyone else been following this on the tv news?

Japanese suspect in Thai surrogate baby scandal hands over DNA samples
The lawyer of a Japanese man suspected of having fathered at least 12 babies using Thai surrogate mothers submitted DNA samples to Thai police on Monday in a bid to clear his name.

The 24-year-old man, identified by police as a Japanese national who traveled frequently in and out Thailand, has not been charged.

His Thai lawyer, Kong Suriyamonthon, said his client wants to clear up the allegations against him.

“It’s a DNA sample, yes. He wants the truth to be known,” Kong told reporters on Monday, adding that he did not know whether his client would return to Thailand.

He declined to confirm his client’s whereabouts but said the DNA samples had come from Japan.

Police Colonel Naiyawat Padermchit said at least 12 babies tested were fathered by the same man.

Thailand has been gripped by surrogacy scandals in recent weeks following allegations that an Australian couple had abandoned their Down Syndrome baby with his Thai birth mother taking only his twin sister back to Australia with them.

Earlier this month, Thai police discovered nine surrogate babies with their nannies and a pregnant surrogate mother at a Bangkok apartment, dubbed the “baby factory” by media. Police later said they had found more babies, all suspected of being fathered by the Japanese businessman.

“We have intelligence that he is a rich man and his father gave him a lot of money. We also know he took children from Thailand to Cambodia,” Thailand’s Interpol director, Apichart Suriboonya, told Reuters, adding that police had found no link to human trafficking.

Thailand’s military government, which took power in May, has given preliminary approval for a draft law to make commercial surrogacy a criminal offense.

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Re: J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby wuchan » Tue Aug 19, 2014 3:07 pm

I may be in tinfoil hat land but if a person has no paperwork (birth cert, national ID, passport) does that person exist? If the J-police can't prove that a prostitute brought in by the yaks was illegally brought in, would they do anything? It seems like a "loophole" for the yaks to have sex slaves. In theory a person that has been taught from birth that being a prostitute is what they are supposed to do they wouldn't object to doing the job thus making it voluntary and if the police can't establish any kind of identity the Japanese legal system would be unable to blame.
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Re: J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby legion » Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:37 pm

Apparently this guy is extremely rich and unlikely to be a Yak. My theory is he is insane.
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Re: J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Tue Aug 19, 2014 9:54 pm

legion wrote:Apparently this guy is extremely rich and unlikely to be a Yak. My theory is he is insane.


Or maybe choko naturalized on the down low.
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Re: J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby dimwit » Wed Aug 20, 2014 12:15 am

Fuck this is about the third story in last couple of weeks in which I do not have a fucking clue what is going on. Who is this guy and what exacting is the guys cunning plan?
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Re: J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby matsuki » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:09 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
legion wrote:Apparently this guy is extremely rich and unlikely to be a Yak. My theory is he is insane.


Or maybe choko naturalized on the down low.


Psssh, if that was me, it would be a lot more that 12 babies!

But consider another hand raised for "WTF" :???: Are they suggesting he paid the lemurs to make babies for him?
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Postby wagyl » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:31 am

chokonen888 wrote:But consider another hand raised for "WTF" :???: Are they suggesting he paid the lemurs to make babies for him?


Not everyone is as studly as you, Choko: some people can't get that to happen for free.

I have officially used up the one time I can call Choko studly, even in jest, before it becomes creepy
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Re: J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:32 am

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
legion wrote:Apparently this guy is extremely rich and unlikely to be a Yak. My theory is he is insane.


Or maybe choko naturalized on the down low.


Legion's theory might be the only explanation.
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Re: J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby matsuki » Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:56 pm

....or forming his own soccer team? That's always been my go to when asked if I was using condoms. In reality, i'd have my own soccer team and enough "fooligans" to fill the stadium by now.
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Re: J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby Mike Oxlong » Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:01 pm

DNA shows Japanese man fathered 15 surrogate babies: Thai police
A DNA test of a Japanese man embroiled in a surrogacy scandal in Thailand shows that he is the biological father of at least 15 babies, police said Wednesday.

But his motives remained a mystery two weeks after the discovery of nine babies in a Bangkok apartment triggered a human trafficking probe.

The alleged father, who is reported by Japanese media to be the son of an IT millionaire, has left Thailand but voluntarily sent the DNA sample to try to clear his name.

“It is confirmed that he is the father of all the babies—the 15 babies that we checked,” Thai police doctor Lieutenant General Jongjate Aojanepong told AFP after the preliminary result.

The authorities still hope that the man will return to Thailand to help with the investigation, police Lieutenant General Kokiat Wongvorachart told reporters.

“If he comes, we will get clear information from him,” he added.

Asked about the content of a written explanation submitted by the Japanese through his lawyer, Kokiat said: “He said he can take care of them. He wants to have children.”

“From our checks of the living conditions of the babies, so far there has not been any abuse or involvement in human trafficking or unlawful use of the babies,” he added.

He said Thailand would seek help from foreign police experts to confirm the preliminary DNA test result.

The case is the latest twist in a widening surrogacy scandal initially triggered by accusations that an Australian couple abandoned a baby born with Down’s syndrome with his Thai surrogate mother—but took his healthy twin sister.

Paid surrogacy is illegal in Thailand. The military rulers have vowed to introduce a new law that could result in 10 years’ imprisonment for anyone found guilty of involvement in the trade.

Australia has asked Thailand to make “transitional arrangements” to help any of its citizens who have already entered into surrogacy agreements.

In the case of the Japanese man, the surrogate mothers have said they did not use their own eggs, according to police.

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Re: J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby Takechanpoo » Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:09 pm

guys still didnt know that J-dude is an oldest son of a 光通信 founder?
his father and family have over 10 billion yens
looks like his father is putting political pressures on J-medias and they dont report that J-dudes private things
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Re: J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby matsuki » Thu Aug 21, 2014 1:29 pm

Well, he's got a soccer team...but who are the egg donors if not the Thai women?
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Re: J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby Mike Oxlong » Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:08 pm

Interpol seeks clues to Thai 'baby factory'
Interpol has launched a multinational investigation into what Thailand has dubbed the “Baby Factory” case: a 24-year-old Japanese businessman who has 16 surrogate babies and an alleged desire to father hundreds more.

Police raided a Bangkok condominium earlier this month and found nine babies and nine nannies living in a few unfurnished rooms filled with baby bottles, bouncy chairs, play pens and diapers. They have since identified Mitsutoki Shigeta as the father of those babies — and seven others.

“What I can tell you so far is that I’ve never seen a case like this,” said Thailand’s Interpol director, police Maj. Gen. Apichart Suribunya. “We are trying to understand what kind of person makes this many babies.”

Apichart said that regional Interpol offices in Japan, Cambodia, Hong Kong and India have been asked to probe Shigeta’s background, beginning last week. Police say he appears to have registered businesses or apartments in those countries and has frequently traveled there.

“We are looking into two motives. One is human trafficking and the other is exploitation of children,” said Thai police Lt. Gen. Kokiat Wongvorachart, Thailand’s lead investigator in the case. He said Shigeta made 41 trips to Thailand since 2010. On many occasions he traveled to nearby Cambodia, where he brought four of his babies.

Shigeta has not been charged with any crime. He is trying to get his children back — the 12 in Thailand are being cared for by social services — and he has proven through DNA samples sent from Japan that he is their biological father. He quickly left Thailand after the Aug. 5 raid on the condominium and has said through a lawyer that he simply wanted a large family and has the means to support it.

Kokiat said Shigeta hired 11 Thai surrogate mothers to carry his children, including four sets of twins. Police have not determined the biological mothers, Kokiat said.

The founder of a multinational fertility clinic that provided Shigeta with two surrogate mothers said she warned Interpol about him even before the first baby was born in June 2013.

“As soon as they got pregnant he requested more. He said he wanted 10 to 15 babies a year, and that he wanted to continue the baby-making process until he’s dead,” said Mariam Kukunashvili, founder of the New Life clinic, which is based in Thailand and six other countries. He also inquired about equipment to freeze his sperm to have sufficient supply when he’s older, she said in a telephone interview from Mexico.

As for Shigeta’s motives, Kukunashvili said he told the clinic’s manager that “he wanted to win elections and could use his big family for voting,” and that “the best thing I can do for the world is to leave many children.” Kukunashvili declined The Associated Press’ request to talk to the clinic manager.

Kukunashvili, who is based at the company’s headquarters in the country of Georgia, said she never met Shigeta but received reports from her Thai staff.

She said that in April 2013, she sent faxes in English and French to Interpol’s head office in Lyon, France, and an email through the agency’s website, but they went unanswered. Apichart of Interpol in Thailand said the local office never saw the warnings. An Interpol spokesman in Lyon did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

Kukunashvili also sent Shigeta an email to express suspicion, and attorney Ratpratan Tulatorn responded on his behalf in an Aug. 31, 2013, email that the clinic owner provided to the AP.

The attorney said Shigeta was involved in “no dishonesty, no illegal activities.” He said his client hoped to keep using New Life, but the company then stopped working with him.

Shigeta’s activities drew no attention until early this month, when an Australian couple was accused of abandoning a baby with his Thai surrogate mother — but taking his twin sister — after learning the boy had Down syndrome. Though the couple disputes the allegation, the case prompted a crackdown by Thai authorities on what had been a largely unregulated industry.

After the Australian case emerged, police received a tip that prompted the raid on Shigeta’s Bangkok apartment.

Ratpratan, the lawyer, appeared during the raid to insist that Shigeta had done nothing wrong.

“These are legal babies, they all have birth certificates,” Ratpratan told Thailand’s Channel 3 television station. “There are assets purchased under these babies’ names. There are savings accounts for these babies, and investments. If he were to sell these babies, why would he give them these benefits?”

Ratpratan is no longer Shigeta’s lawyer, and his replacement has not responded to requests for comment. Shigeta’s current whereabouts are unknown.

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Postby matsuki » Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:03 pm

“As soon as they got pregnant he requested more. He said he wanted 10 to 15 babies a year, and that he wanted to continue the baby-making process until he’s dead,” said Mariam Kukunashvili, founder of the New Life clinic, which is based in Thailand and six other countries. He also inquired about equipment to freeze his sperm to have sufficient supply when he’s older, she said in a telephone interview from Mexico.

As for Shigeta’s motives, Kukunashvili said he told the clinic’s manager that “he wanted to win elections and could use his big family for voting,” and that “the best thing I can do for the world is to leave many children.” Kukunashvili declined The Associated Press’ request to talk to the clinic manager.


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Postby Russell » Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:26 pm

Maybe he wanted to put those babies up for adoption.

That may be a lucrative business in some countries.
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Postby matsuki » Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:35 pm

Russell wrote:Maybe he wanted to put those babies up for adoption.

That may be a lucrative business in some countries.


I think puppy mills are more lucrative here...have you seen how much they sell dogs for? :shock:
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Postby Russell » Mon Aug 25, 2014 1:40 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
Russell wrote:Maybe he wanted to put those babies up for adoption.

That may be a lucrative business in some countries.


I think puppy mills are more lucrative here...have you seen how much they sell dogs for? :shock:

Yeah, but maybe he doesn't know how to seduce a dog...
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Postby matsuki » Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:17 pm

Russell wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:
Russell wrote:Maybe he wanted to put those babies up for adoption.

That may be a lucrative business in some countries.


I think puppy mills are more lucrative here...have you seen how much they sell dogs for? :shock:

Yeah, but maybe he doesn't know how to seduce a dog...


He's been overseas enough that he should have plenty of experience with crazy bitches :twisted:
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Re: J-Dude in Thai Surrogate Baby Scandal

Postby Mike Oxlong » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:35 am

NYT on the broader issue of profit and morality...
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Postby Russell » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:56 am

Mike Oxlong wrote:NYT on the broader issue of profit and morality...

I find this article a bit thick of a newspaper from a country in which profit habitually prevails over morality.
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:19 am

People who can't have kids should adopt. All this other shit is ridiculous.
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