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Postby Russell » Fri May 16, 2014 8:55 am

Why an octopus's suckers don't stick its arms together

The question arose – the way questions can in science – when the team was faced with a freshly dismembered octopus arm that eagerly clung to everything it touched, with the notable exception of itself.

Octopuses are among the most extraordinary creatures in the ocean. They can blend into the background, morph into the shape of other beasts, and even regrow limbs lopped off by predators and scientists.

But for all their impressive feats, the octopus's walnut-sized brain cannot keep track of what its eight arms are doing. The problem is too hard. Since each arm is studded with suckers that act on contact, the mystery is this: how do octopuses not get tangled up in knots?

Researchers in Israel set out to answer the question in a series of experiments that grew steadily more gruesome and in time made full use of the common octopus's ability to grow back missing appendages.

Binyamin Hochner and his colleagues at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem had studied octopus arms for years. The limbs are intriguing for roboticists, because they are autonomous: none of the arms knows what the others are doing. Instead of being controlled from a central brain, decisions over much of their movement and behaviour are made within the arms themselves. Of the octopus's 500 million nerve cells, more than half are in their arms.

But octopus arms have more than a mind of their own. They can survive for around an hour after being amputated. Lone limbs have been seen to grab food and even pass morsels to where the arm thinks its owner's mouth must be.

It was a student of Hochner's who noticed, while working on other aspects of the octopus arm, that its suckers attached to everything except octopus skin. Something about the skin turned the suckers off. "We discovered this by accident. We're amazed nobody noticed it before," Hochner told the Guardian.

And so began the trials. On more than 30 occasions, Hochner noticed that amputated octopus arms never latched on to themselves or the arms of other octopuses. They would attach to petri dishes, but if half the petri dish was covered in gel soaked in octopus skin extract, the suckers avoided that half. The only time one amputated arm grabbed hold of another was when the latter had been peeled.

Tests on octopuses that had intact limbs were more equivocal. Presented with dismembered arms, some octopuses grabbed them as if they were lumps of food, and brought them to their mouths. They were less likely to do so if the amputated arm was one of their own.

Unsurprisingly, some octopuses seemed a little stumped. One octopus repeatedly rubbed its arms over an amputated appendage, touching it, but never activating its suckers. Others grabbed at amputated arms, but only where the flesh had been exposed where the limb was severed. Still more brought severed limbs to their mouths and held them with their beaks while the arms quickly let go. "The octopus cannot hold the arm properly with its suckers, so the only way it can hold it is with its beak," said Hochner. The scientists named the behaviour "spaghetti holding".

The experiments, described in the latest issue of the journal Current Biology, suggest that octopuses have a chemical in their skin that stops their suckers from sticking. But the mechanism is akin to a default setting, which the octopuses' brain can apparently override.

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Re: FAO Yanpa

Postby yanpa » Fri May 16, 2014 9:02 am

In breaking news, Binyamin Hochner and his colleagues at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem were found mysteriously asphyxiated. Police are investigating the meaning of multiple small round red marks around the victims' necks.
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Postby wagyl » Fri May 16, 2014 9:20 am

That Professor Hochner had his severed hand stuffed in his mouth, skin peeled off, was a particularly gruesome discovery.
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Re: FAO Yanpa

Postby Russell » Wed May 21, 2014 9:04 pm

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Postby Russell » Sun Aug 31, 2014 1:18 am

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Re: FAO Yanpa

Postby Taro Toporific » Fri Sep 19, 2014 4:40 am

Did our forum's Tentaculatum Maximus or Cthulhu appear in Ukiyo-e?

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Postby yanpa » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:57 pm

New Yorker wrote:Why Not Eat Octopus?

Ben Lerner’s new novel, “10:04,” opens with a meditation on a decadent and expensive lunch in Chelsea, prominently featuring baby octopus. The narrator is supposed to be celebrating the six-figure sale of his book, but instead he focusses on the absurdity of the meal: “the impossibly tender things” had been “literally massaged to death.” He wonders about eating “an animal that decorates its lair, has been observed at complicated play.” Afterward, he and his agent walk out onto the High Line to watch the traffic on Tenth Avenue, and he experiences an empathic response to the once sentient octopuses now curdling within him:

I intuited an alien intelligence, felt subject to a succession of images, sensations, memories, and affects that did not, properly speaking, belong to me: the ability to perceive polarized light; a conflation of taste and touch as salt was rubbed into the suction cups; a terror localized in my extremities, bypassing the brain completely.

Octopus intelligence is well documented: they have been known to open jars, guard their unhatched eggs for months or even years, and manage web forums. ...more...
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Postby wagyl » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:01 pm

Ha ha Made me look.

Once I had got over the Chelsea → Tenth Avenue ..... oh, that Chelsea thing.
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Postby yanpa » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:21 pm

Clinton? Or the sweets? :twisted:
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Postby wagyl » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:37 pm

I don't want to have to locate my expensive seafood lunch in Chelsea Clinton, or in a bag of butterscotch. But an octopus meal in Chelsea did make me think of a charming little place just off the Kings Road, when I had missed which paper you were quoting.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:12 am

NOOOPE.
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Video of a giant squid attacking a Greenpeace submarine, and that’s unsettling enough, but WHY IS THERE ANOTHER SQUID BEHIND IT SPITTING OUT FIRE? Is that a real thing? Because I was scared enough without adding: “Oh, and also they can shoot a blinding inferno out of their butts like a tentacled, aquatic bonfire.” It’s like half giant squid and half underwater maritime flame-thrower, and that’s not natural and is a sign that all giant squid are literally demons from the depths of hell.

It’s also possible that Greenpeace panicked and threw a flare at it and the squid grabbed the flare like, “YOU THINK WE’RE SCARED? THIS IS A DAMN SPARKER, ASSHOLE. I EAT YOUR MOTHERFUCKING SPARKLER. YOU’RE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOW, SON.”

And that’s an even more terrifying scenario because giant squid are already horrifying and NOW THEY HAVE FIRE. Good work, Greenpeace. This is why we can’t have nice things. Because you’ve armed the giant squid. THEY ALREADY HAD TOO MANY ARMS.

It’s possible I’m overreacting, but I don’t think so.
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Postby yanpa » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:36 am

It's well-known that squids are in the pay of the French government.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:12 pm

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Postby yanpa » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:27 pm

That reminds me, must thank Greji for the loan.
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Postby IparryU » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:10 pm

yanpa wrote:That reminds me, must thank Greji for the loan.


This must be the works of the ol' goat herder too...

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20141014/382563/

SB Energy to Use Goats for Weeding at Solar Plant
2014/10/14 22:18
Kenji Kaneko, Nikkei BP CleanTech Institute

SB Energy Corp announced Oct 10, 2014, that it will start to use goats for weeding at a mega (large-scale) solar power plant in Yonago City, Tottori Prefecture, Japan, on a trial basis.

SB Energy (Minato Ward, Tokyo), which is affiliated with the Softbank Group, runs businesses related to renewable energies. The name of the plant is "Softbank Tottori Yonago Solar Park."

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Postby Russell » Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:40 am

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Postby wagyl » Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:12 am

One of these things is not like the other. Which one is it? Can you name?
http://www.jonathan-crow.com/vice-presidents/

The artist appears to have been a FG at one time, too (probably not one with an official account, but you know what I mean)
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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:03 pm

"deep sea"

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Postby Russell » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:25 pm

Taro Toporific wrote:
"deep sea"

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It could've been an art work of Escher.

Is this really a pic?
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Postby wagyl » Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:36 pm

It looks more like aloe vera to me
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Postby yanpa » Tue Oct 28, 2014 3:02 am

Hmm, spikes not suction pads. No relatives of mine.
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Postby Taro Toporific » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:26 am

yanpa wrote:Hmm, spikes not suction pads. No relatives of mine.


Ok, how about tentacles and spikes?

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Postby Russell » Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:27 am

I persist in calling it a work in Escher's style...

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Postby Taro Toporific » Mon Nov 17, 2014 7:45 am

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Postby Marked Trail » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:37 am

Yum.

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Postby matsuki » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:27 pm

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Postby wagyl » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:47 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Image

You do realise that this is a public part of the forum, don't you?

Do you really want to be posting self portraits in public?

(For the avoidance of doubt, Choko is on the left. The gym membership is paying off!)
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Postby matsuki » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:59 pm

If I looked like that right now, I'd start a "repopulate Japan" kickstarter  :twisted:
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Postby yanpa » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:13 pm

Personally I'd call the emergency services first to get that beaked celaphod off my private parts.
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