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Japan's obsession with gran

Postby yanpa » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:52 pm

Presumably this is all marketing directed towards the growing segment of older dames with disposable income?

Not sure I want to know what kind of blue fantasies anyone's gran would be involved in...

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Re: Japan's obsession with gran

Postby matsuki » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:22 pm

Not that it doesn't happen everyday here but I'm confused....what is "gran?"
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Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:26 pm

chokonen888 wrote:Not that it doesn't happen everyday here but I'm confused....what is "gran?"


Ever hear of "Google?"
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Re: Japan's obsession with gran

Postby matsuki » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:36 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:Not that it doesn't happen everyday here but I'm confused....what is "gran?"


Ever hear of "Google?"


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The Gran were sentient mammalian humanoids native to the planet Kinyen, though they had colonies across the galaxy, including settlements on the planets Hok and Malastare.
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Postby Yokohammer » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:07 pm

Jerk & Choko ... possibly the funniest duo since Laurel & Hardy.
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Re: Japan's obsession with gran

Postby IparryU » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:38 pm

Ya... SJ keeps choko on his heels with all them jabs. Then wagyl comes in and pokes some more.

Makes my train rides entertaining.
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Re: Japan's obsession with gran

Postby Coligny » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:53 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:Not that it doesn't happen everyday here but I'm confused....what is "gran?"


Ever hear of "Google?"


you're really not using it much these days to answer this...

google results can be enjoyed only while being shitfaced drunk or on pcp...

even bing with queries written in klingon is more accurate these days...

and don't get me started on pr0n...
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Re: Japan's obsession with gran

Postby Coligny » Wed Nov 19, 2014 4:54 pm

IparryU wrote:Ya... SJ keeps choko on his heels with all them jabs. Then wagyl comes in and pokes some more.

Makes my train rides entertaining.


let me guess... you are riding the gravy train...

/try the veal...
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Re: Japan's obsession with gran

Postby wagyl » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:17 pm

Coligny wrote:/try the veal...

I'm not so sure I'd go for the baby bull ... the mere whiff of paedophilia makes people nervous these days.
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Re: Japan's obsession with gran

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:27 pm

Coligny wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:Not that it doesn't happen everyday here but I'm confused....what is "gran?"


Ever hear of "Google?"


you're really not using it much these days to answer this...

google results can be enjoyed only while being shitfaced drunk or on pcp...

even bing with queries written in klingon is more accurate these days...

and don't get me started on pr0n...


Is that so?

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Re: Japan's obsession with gran

Postby yanpa » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:43 pm

Fascinating... this relatively common term in the homeland of the English language is not in use in the colonies?
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Re: Japan's obsession with gran

Postby Coligny » Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:47 pm

Just did an image search for sybian...

Google: everything from Mitsubishi lancer evolution 9, mobile phones, power drills to aircraft carriers. It's like they only answer with stuff i usually search for, no matter what the new query is. The only 2 stuff missing to validate this theory were Al Hussein Scud and Topol M launchers...

Bing: several pages of sluts riding sit on dildos in various stage of orgasm and states of undress...
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Re: Japan's obsession with gran

Postby wagyl » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:01 pm

yanpa wrote:Fascinating... this relatively common term in the homeland of the English language is not in use in the colonies?

It is only rejected by the rebellious colonies. At least some of the loyal colonies recognise it.
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Postby matsuki » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:21 pm

yanpa wrote:Fascinating... this relatively common term in the homeland of the English language is not in use in the colonies?


Does the grandmother definition relate to the videogame(?) and beer in the first post better than a race from Star Wars?

I've seen "GRAND" being shorted to グラン before so maybe Grand Blue Fantasy and Grand Rye? Wasei Engrish? Like I said...I'm confused....
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Re: Japan's obsession with gran

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:24 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
yanpa wrote:Fascinating... this relatively common term in the homeland of the English language is not in use in the colonies?


Does the grandmother definition relate to the videogame(?) and beer in the first post better than a race from Star Wars?


:wall:

In the context of what yanpa wrote, yes.
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Postby yanpa » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:27 pm

chokonen888 wrote:
yanpa wrote:Fascinating... this relatively common term in the homeland of the English language is not in use in the colonies?


Does the grandmother definition relate to the videogame(?) and beer in the first post better than a race from Star Wars?

I've seen "GRAND" being shorted to グラン before so maybe Grand Blue Fantasy and Grand Rye? Wasei Engrish? Like I said...I'm confused....


It's either グラン being incorrectly rendered back into romaji, or from the Italian/Spanish (as in "Gran Turismo"). Either way it looks stupid in combination with English words... I mean "Gran Class" in the Tohoku Shinkansen? Are they offering bingo as part of the on-board service? Complimentary zimmer frames?

Disclaimer: if your local dialect of English does not parse "Gran" as meaning "little old grandmother" then you might as well ignore this thread.
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Postby wagyl » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:29 pm

Ahh OK I see what you are confused about.

You have fallen into the trap of thinking that Gaikoku is monolithic.

I used to live not too far from the condiment strewn manshon, in a building called Gran Pare.
Most people would recognise it better if I called it Grand Palais.

It was false advertising.

By the way, Gran Dry is not beer.
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Postby Coligny » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:30 pm

If you so easily associate geriatrics and unlubricamated sexual intercourse, your are even moar disturbed than I previously thought...
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Postby matsuki » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:41 pm

wagyl wrote:Ahh OK I see what you are confused about.

You have fallen into the trap of thinking that Gaikoku is monolithic.


Well, they're using kata-romaji-kaigai words from two different languages, written in non-romaji romaji?

It seems as of late, 味 is being routed in favor of フレーバー :roll: I'm all for adopting foreign words they don't have words for but it's getting to the point where they have to stay tuned to TV every day to understand the latest kataka foreign words that are trending.
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Postby wagyl » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:50 pm

We have been invited to an evening at the Smiths', and a soiree at the Joneses'. Which shall we go to?

I never know whether to choose a cafe, or just go to a coffee shop.

Or another example: it is not a kidnapping, it is a rendition.

We've had these conversations before. Every linguistic crime the Japanese are accused of, English has already done it.
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Postby yanpa » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:54 pm

Well this thread went downhill quickly... I think I'll just keep my out-of-context Gran-related amusement to myself...
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Postby wagyl » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:00 pm

yanpa wrote:Well this thread went downhill quickly... I think I'll just keep my out-of-context Gran-related amusement to myself...

Looking across various threads, it looks like a low pressure system has sucked the abstract word-play capacity from certain localised areas. I smirked. Not a LOL mind you.
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Postby matsuki » Wed Nov 19, 2014 7:51 pm

wagyl wrote:We have been invited to an evening at the Smiths', and a soiree at the Joneses'. Which shall we go to?

I never know whether to choose a cafe, or just go to a coffee shop.

Or another example: it is not a kidnapping, it is a rendition.

We've had these conversations before. Every linguistic crime the Japanese are accused of, English has already done it.


You're missing the third language and the mystery language(s) that it's written in. GRANBLUE? Not Romaji, not English, WTF is it? "Dry" seems like English but "Gran" surely isn't...and yet neither are Romaji? I mean, café..ok, so it's French....but it doesn't become kahfay (unless you're in Boston) nor does it get combined with some color to make "cafebraun" and get used in media.

I mean, I get your point, this shit happens in all languages, totally agree, point taken...but here it seems to go a step further without any reason other than wanting to look cool/trendy/whatever and totally failing. How many times have you seen a missing image on a Japanese website that says "Now Printing" ...even most Japanese can't explain that one. I'm still waiting to see what happens to the movie catch all "ディブイディ" as more 4K TV's roll out. (if you've ever watched a DVD on a 4K TV you know what I mean) Then again, they still refer to the good ol "ブイティアール" when video tapes have been out of the mainstream for how long?
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Postby wagyl » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:33 pm

chokonen888 wrote:it seems to go a step further without any reason other than wanting to look cool/trendy/whatever and totally failing.

Ford Gran Torino.

And this coming from a person from a culture where entree is the main dish. Explain that! Every American I have asked has failed to do so.
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Postby matsuki » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:13 pm

wagyl wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:it seems to go a step further without any reason other than wanting to look cool/trendy/whatever and totally failing.

Ford Gran Torino.


Yeah, it's as dumb "GRANBLUE" but we're talkin' 1972....and still not as brain dead bad as GM trying to sell the Nova in Spanish speaking markets.

wagyl wrote:And this coming from a person from a culture where entree is the main dish. Explain that! Every American I have asked has failed to do so.


Wikipedia says my cultural usage is legit:

" In North American English, the term retains an older meaning describing a heavy, meat course, due to the disappearance in the early 20th century of a large communal main course such as a roast as a standard part of the meal in the English-speaking world. This use of the term is unusual (but not unheard of) outside North America, as most other English speakers follow contemporary French usage, generally considering the word "entrée" to mean a first course."
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Postby wagyl » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:24 pm

chokonen888 wrote:In North American English, the term retains an older meaning

Cool! I learnt something new: like so many of those other things the British English world complains about the way Americans mangle it, this is another one where you appear to actually be more conservative.

One last example, since 1972 was apparently not acceptable: Vente at Starbucks. Nobody knows what that is without asking, because it is totally made up. What the fuck is it with these English speaking companies?
I'm reminded of pictures I have seen around the place of the self service coffee machines in 7-11 with hand written 小 next to the "Regular" button and hand written 大 next to the "Large" button.
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Postby legion » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:36 pm

Do you pee in the sho cup and poo in the dai one?
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Postby matsuki » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:48 pm

wagyl wrote:
chokonen888 wrote:In North American English, the term retains an older meaning

Cool! I learnt something new: like so many of those other things the British English world complains about the way Americans mangle it, this is another one where you appear to actually be more conservative.


I think there are many words like that in NA English but when it comes to spelling, Brit English speakers have a case.

wagyl wrote:One last example, since 1972 was apparently not acceptable: Vente at Starbucks. Nobody knows what that is without asking, because it is totally made up. What the fuck is it with these English speaking companies?
I'm reminded of pictures I have seen around the place of the self service coffee machines in 7-11 with hand written 小 next to the "Regular" button and hand written 大 next to the "Large" button.


Venti - Italian for 20...like the 20 ounces in the drink. Legit BUT I agree it's the same WTF mentality as Japan since I'm sure the majority of the customers don't know that and it seems way out of place with the other sizes. Canada uses piccolo, mezzo, grande, venti... :confused:

Hahaha, and you make a good point regarding the legit use of English that tends to leave enough Japanese scratching their heads as to require subtitles. Don't get me started on Japanese websites...by far the worst when it comes to that...and most don't have subs.
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Postby matsuki » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:11 pm

The Oxford Dictionaries Word of the Year is… vape


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The shortlist

Here are the words that came close, but didn’t quite make it as Word of the Year:

bae n. used as a term of endearment for one’s romantic partner.

budtender n. a person whose job is to serve customers in a cannabis dispensary or shop.

contactless adj. relating to or involving technologies that allow a smart card, mobile phone, etc. to contact wirelessly to an electronic reader, typically in order to make a payment.

indyref, n. an abbreviation of ‘independence referendum’, in reference to the referendum on Scottish independence, held in Scotland on 18 September 2014, in which voters were asked to answer yes or no to the question ‘Should Scotland be an independent country?’

normcore n. a trend in which ordinary, unfashionable clothing is worn as a deliberate fashion statement.

slacktivism, n., informal actions performed via the Internet in support of a political or social cause but regarded as requiring little time or involvement, e.g. signing an online petition or joining a campaign group on a social media website; a blend of slacker and activism.


Is it wrong that I want to bitchslap any lemur that calls me "bae?"
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Postby wagyl » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:18 am

legion wrote:Do you pee in the sho cup and poo in the dai one?

That all depends how many girls are involved.
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