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Tinkering subforum

Postby Coligny » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:18 pm

With yokohammer as local mod !?

Who's with me ?
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby yanpa » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:39 pm

It can be done.

I'd prefer this to be a public subforum, however the existing tinkering thread is behind the curtain - any reason why it shouldn't be made public?
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Wage Slave » Mon Jan 05, 2015 5:48 pm

I suppose not really. I don't think there is anything sensitive there as it turns out. I sort of felt there could be but actually ......

Perhaps need to check GPS data has been stripped from a couple of photos.

And yes, if a sub forum is created, then Yokohammer would be a fine moderator - assuming he wants the hassle that is.
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Coligny » Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:47 pm

yanpa wrote:It can be done.

I'd prefer this to be a public subforum, however the existing tinkering thread is behind the curtain - any reason why it shouldn't be made public?


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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Russell » Mon Jan 05, 2015 6:52 pm

A general tinkering subforum would be an excellent idea. It does not need to be behind any curtain. And I agree that Hammer will be an excellent mod. I do not really expect much moderation to be necessary, judging from the current DIY threads.

The reason for putting the tinkering thread behind the curtain was that some photos would identify some members. It does not look like the current tinkering thread risks that.

If an initiator of a thread thinks there will be identifying photos in it, he/she can always decide to make that thread for premium members only. However, in that case the thread should limit itself to the topic for which it was initiated.
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Coligny » Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:22 pm

Mod is needed to split topics when they evolve. Like the weather thread which is now a "japanese contractors issues" thread. Both are interesting, but nothing to do in the same bed...
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Wage Slave » Mon Jan 05, 2015 7:26 pm

I don't know. I quite like the meandering threads. It reminds me more of a conversation over a couple of beers. They usually return to topic after a diversion or two. It's natural discourse.

The only exception is when they turn into a very lengthy duopolistic exchange on the topic of lemur tinkering. That, I dislike.
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Grumpy Gramps » Mon Jan 05, 2015 9:38 pm

No objections :)
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Coligny » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:21 pm

Wage Slave wrote:I don't know. I quite like the meandering threads. It reminds me more of a conversation over a couple of beers. They usually return to topic after a diversion or two. It's natural discourse.

The only exception is when they turn into a very lengthy duopolistic exchange on the topic of lemur tinkering. That, I dislike.


Yes, i like that too... But it sometimes makes search for previous data between tedious and unpossible... After the conversation have run its course a bit of sorting can't be that bad...

And don't bring up the search function....
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Yokohammer » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:47 am

Sounds like I'm being volunteered ...

I'd be happy to help out as much as I can, but my ability to stay on the ball and pay attention at all times will likely be impaired by things like work and life in general. Issues that everyone else (except Coligny) has to deal with though, so I suppose it's really a non-issue. Anyway, I do tend to sort of drop in and out as dictated by goings on in the real world, and that's not likely to change. So if that's OK with everyone, I guess it's OK.

But as for the basic issue of having a Tinkering sub-forum where people can start new tinkering-related threads, I'm all for it. There's clearly a need, so it should be done. I agree that little to no moderation should be necessary, given that the Tinkerer contingent are pretty much all on the same wavelength and tend to avoid things like politics and religion (don't laugh, one otherwise informative woodworking YouTube clip I was watching recently ended with the guy saying "and now a word about Jesus ..."). Being a public forum might upset that balance a bit, but the Table Saws thread has been fairly stable, even though table saws ceased to be the focus some time ago.
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Coligny » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:38 am

I have a come back, but needlessly mean... (Involving a mid-life crisis convertible, and beer belly, and balding)
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Yokohammer » Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:18 am

Coligny wrote:I have a come back, but needlessly mean... (Involving a mid-life crisis convertible, and beer belly, and balding)

Oh dear oh dear ... the idea that anyone who buys a convertible is having a midlife crisis is just, I dunno, kinda outdated?
But midlife crisis: yep, been there done that. I actually sort of enjoyed mine, although looking back I wouldn't want to be that stupid again. It was well and truly over by the time I bought my Z4. That little acquisition was brought on by the simple fact that I was driving again after a break of around 35 years, and was (and am) damn well going to enjoy it. Yee-har!

Sam Maloof bought a Porsche Boxster when he was 85. That guy definitely has the right idea.

Beer belly. Nope. Not one drop of the demon alcohol has passed my lips in over four years, so that's just a plain old "belly."

And balding ... I'll be 60 in March, what the fark do you expect?

Sticks and stones ... nyah nyah ... :razz:
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Mike Oxlong » Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:31 pm

Yokohammer wrote:Beer belly. Nope. Not one drop of the demon alcohol has passed my lips in over four years, so that's just a plain old "belly."

Just curious, but why?
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Coligny » Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:57 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:Beer belly. Nope. Not one drop of the demon alcohol has passed my lips in over four years, so that's just a plain old "belly."

Just curious, but why?


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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Yokohammer » Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:27 pm

Mike Oxlong wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:Beer belly. Nope. Not one drop of the demon alcohol has passed my lips in over four years, so that's just a plain old "belly."

Just curious, but why?

The whole sequence of events and circumstances is a little too long and complicated to go into here, so just the key points. To get the first issue out of the way: it was not because there was a drinking "problem". It was also not directly because of any drinking related health issues. The qualifying "directly" is in there because I did think that my immunity might have been a bit compromised due to years of imbibing, so I decided to give it a break. I was also extremely busy and needed every ounce of concentration I could muster just to get through the pile.

Multiple issues, so I decided to give the ol' body a rest. That was December 2010. Then 3/11 came along and for a few more months there was a need to remain alert and able to drive at a moment's notice, just in case.

So by the time I would have been ready to end my little break and guzzle a cold one or two (or nine), I had already been completely dry for 6 months or more and realised that I really wasn't missing it in the least. So I just kept it that way.

To be honest, I was tapering off anyway. I used to drink pretty heavily, but I just started to get tired of it and circumstances conspired to give me an excuse to stop completely, so I did.

The advantages are better focus and concentration, and much more productive time. And I'm not spending money on booze, not that I ever considered that a problem either. But yeah, concentration and productivity. Those are big pluses for me.

So even the short answer is kinda long, but there it is.
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Russell » Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:41 pm

Yokohammer wrote:
Mike Oxlong wrote:
Yokohammer wrote:Beer belly. Nope. Not one drop of the demon alcohol has passed my lips in over four years, so that's just a plain old "belly."

Just curious, but why?

The whole sequence of events and circumstances, if described in detail, would be a little too long and complicated to go into here.

So sticking to the basics, and to get the first issue out of the way: it was not because there was a drinking "problem". It was also not directly because of any drinking related health issues. The qualifying "directly" is in there because I did think that my immunity might have been a bit compromised due to years of imbibing, so I decided to give it a break. I was also extremely busy and needed every ounce of concentration I could muster just to get through the pile.

Multiple issues, so I decided to give the ol' body a rest. That was December 2010. Then 3/11 came along and for a few more months there was a need to remain alert and able to drive at a moment's notice, just in case.

So by the time I would have been ready to end my little break and guzzle a cold one or two (or nine), I had already been completely dry for 6 months or more and realised that I really wasn't missing it in the least. So I just kept it that way.

To be honest, I was tapering off anyway. I used to drink pretty heavily, but I just started to get tired of it and circumstances conspired to give me an excuse to stop completely, so I did.

The advantages are better focus and concentration, and much more productive time. And I'm not spending money on booze, not that I ever considered that a problem either. But yeah, concentration and productivity. Those are big pluses for me.

So even the short answer is kinda long, but there it is.

Very much the same here.

My body gradually grew adverse to alcohol, so I basically gave it up.

I really like white wine and beer, but after drinking it in even tiny amounts (I'm talking a bottom of 5 mm in a wine glass) I feel like shit the following day.

I've never been a heavy drinker, but I cherish my memories with a good glass of Cognac or Whiskey in my hands when I was young. But it does not work for me anymore.

And indeed, my immune system has improved a lot, even if it was strong to begin with.

I always joke that my body's proteins were changed by Japanese food, making it less accepting to alcohol...
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Mike Oxlong » Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:53 pm

Thanks for those replies. I have heard similar stories from several people who decided on their own to give it up.
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Re: Tinkering subforum

Postby Coligny » Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:56 pm

Yokohammer wrote:...for a few more months there was a need to remain alert and able to drive at a moment's notice, just in case.




Welcome to the club... Now she's also getting called when not on call...
Meaning it's not even paid...

(But i have issues resisting rhum-raisins tchoklut bars)
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Postby J.A.F.O » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:00 pm

Even as a heavy drinker, I will crawl out of the bottle for months on end. Then crawl back in for a while and so on. Something my old man told me when I was young that stuck with me was "If you can't share your vices it's time to give them up"
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