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I wasnt going to post it as its a bit boring and all.Hotmail

Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:27 am

I have set my location to japan for my hotmail account. So I am not normaly supprised when it opens in weird fonts or bigger, you know if you have been using the japanese version and english version.

I knew Microsoft was going to relaunch it, well today it changed and it is totaly weird. Aparently it wont work on anything other than Wandos and IE. My liniux computer is not connected to the net just now but i trust this guy:

http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/12/1/165223/770

It only japan related as I log in the japanese home page. See its boring.
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Postby Caustic Saint » Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:40 am

So far (for now anyways) Safari v1.1.1 on OSX 10.3.1 can still access it okay. The layout is the new one, but I had no problem getting in and reading my mail.
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Postby Big Booger » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:39 pm

Use outlook express :D

When you put your faith in Microsoft, you are bound to be let down, led astray, or totally disappointed.
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:44 pm

Big Booger wrote:Use outlook express :D

When you put your faith in Microsoft, you are bound to be let down, led astray, or totally disappointed.


I used to use both outlook express and outlook office version. But they are pretty crap at usenet. Outlook doesnt port well to linux he he.
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Postby Big Booger » Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:00 pm

I believe thunderbird works well with linux. :D Part of the Mozilla suite.
http://xenia.sote.hu/ftp/mozilla/thunderbird/linux/0.3/

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I have heard of users installing IE on Linux using Wine. It's not impossible. Though outlook, I've never heard of it. :p
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Postby Robato » Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:31 pm

I use IE for browser, Eudora for email and Newsbin for Usenet. Why not use IE instead of worrying if it works in opera? Or why not use one of the other billions of free email services? :roll:
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Postby Big Booger » Tue Dec 02, 2003 1:43 pm

IE really sucks.. when you compare it to the features of say Firebird, Opera, Mozilla, et al..

Ie doesn't have native popup blocking, tabbed browsing, themes, the toolbars are not resizeable, built in debugging (mozilla betas have it so if you get an error you can send it in to them, and they can log it and attempt to fix it), etc..

Text zooming in IE sucks (little, big, bigger, biggest LOL) with mozilla, text zooming ranges from 100% to 50% and 150% in either direction.

Plus speed tests show that most of the alternative to IE browsers load and execute faster and they are safe as well to use.

BUt IE is used universally and will work with 99.9% of pages.. It's like a communistic browser, one kind fits all, and I hate not having a choice... because MS wants you to use their crap...
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Postby Robato » Tue Dec 02, 2003 2:33 pm

Big Booger wrote:IE really sucks.. when you compare it to the features of say Firebird, Opera, Mozilla, et al..

Ie doesn't have native popup blocking, tabbed browsing, themes, the toolbars are not resizeable, built in debugging (mozilla betas have it so if you get an error you can send it in to them, and they can log it and attempt to fix it), etc..

Text zooming in IE sucks (little, big, bigger, biggest LOL) with mozilla, text zooming ranges from 100% to 50% and 150% in either direction.

Plus speed tests show that most of the alternative to IE browsers load and execute faster and they are safe as well to use.

BUt IE is used universally and will work with 99.9% of pages.. It's like a communistic browser, one kind fits all, and I hate not having a choice... because MS wants you to use their crap...


Yeah and Netscape used to be that 99.9% userbase. Dont blame microsoft for the majority wanting to use it. I for one dont give a crap about any of those features you listed....which is why I use IE.....so I am part of that majority. Its my fault you have no choice, not MS. I could install a free version of linux, use mozilla and other crap software (like the gimp instead of photoshop) if need really be. But I just dont care, my IE works great, cause I dont care if my browser cooks omellets for me or not.

IE has added built in pop up software with its latest release, as well as some of the other features you listed (then again, I dont visit porno sites, so it probably a feature I will turn off)

Im glad my computer is fast as lightning and use cable though....cause I would hate to have a computer and connection so slow that load time on a browser matters.

I can see if you like those features and dont want to give them up....so dont use hotmail. Use yahoo mail, angel fire mail, freemail or whatever else there is.
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:09 pm

Robato, Your opions are getting incohearent. Why do you find it nessesary to disagree to the course of a conversation?(I am not saying that disagreeing is wrong but its the only stance you ever take)

You story is getting pretty weak also.

Here you are saying

IE has added built in pop up software with its latest release, as well as some of the other features you listed (then again, I dont visit porno sites, so it probably a feature I will turn off)


While in previous posts:
Im killing 2 birds with one stone by downloading and sharing non-mosaic porno on Winny while posting here right now!!!


(Clearly a pornaholic)

And the whole resurecting of the copy right stuff, just to get the last word is pretty weak.

When a lawyer give an opinion you just tear it to pieces, saying that you have had 3 collage courses and you know far better than anybody.
(I dont think 3 cources in pottery, flower arranging and embriodary count for much)(I didnt bother linking as the whole topic of copyright is getting tired)

A typical responce:

you can make person attack all you want, I quoted and answered the bullshit wrong information you said before in the very same thread


But actualy in this statment you are making a personal attack.

What we actualy know of robbert:

His mother is black, he has no interest in racial heritage.
He has played guitar for 18 years.
His father is not black(infered) who makes guitars.
He has 3 collage courses(wow I wonder what is your highest education)(I only have 2, a degree and a graduate course)
Comes from a strong religious background. Probably a penticostal(infered)
Has an Asian Wife.
Has 3 shops in Japan, one of which is a family market. I would of thought with 3 collage courses and a guitar legend would of faired better.
Hates people that stand against the established way of things yet disagrees with everybody consistantly.
Uses Usenet for warez :twisted:


I agree I dont like gimp adobe or ulead are slightly better but my 30 demo is running out time for a format D drive.
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Postby Robato » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:17 pm

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:While in previous posts:
Im killing 2 birds with one stone by downloading and sharing non-mosaic porno on Winny while posting here right now!!!


(Clearly a pornaholic)
.

:roll:
It was also clearly a joke.

I wasnt the one getting pissed in your little attack on me in our earlier discussion.

I wasnt arguing, just saying why such the big uproar over IE....I even stated, ok maybe you like those features that IE doesnt provide...then just use another free email service.

Dont get upset, I didnt call you a moron or anything

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:When a lawyer give an opinion you just tear it to pieces, saying that you have had 3 collage courses and you know far better than anybody.

Real life proved the "lawyer" wrong. I dont believe he is a lawyer anyway...lawyers are state based...you dont pass the bar and then move to Japan to practice. (I just stated his flaws in his "facts"....which later showed through by people getting busted 3 days later)
NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:But actualy in this statment you are making a personal attack.

You are doing it again over a broswer. This thread isnt about me is it? Why change the subject? You have now quoted me from 5 different threads to point out my flaws. :roll:
NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:What we actualy know of robbert:

His mother is black, he has no interest in racial heritage.
He has played guitar for 18 years.
His father is not black(infered) who makes guitars.
He has 3 collage courses(wow I wonder what is your highest education)(I only have 2, a degree and a graduate course)
Comes from a strong religious background. Probably a penticostal(infered)
Has an Asian Wife.
Has 3 shops in Japan, one of which is a family market. I would of thought with 3 collage courses and a guitar legend would of faired better.
Hates people that stand against the established way of things yet disagrees with everybody consistantly.
Uses Usenet for warez :twisted: .


Actually, my mother is only half black. It is true I dont care if I am english, african, Irish or Dutch.

My father owns a wood joinery in Maryland. He makes many things, but his passion is building guitars

I have a masters degree in animation. I minored in jazz. I went to an art college where I had to take 3 courses in copyright infringment to not ojnly protect myself and artwork but protect any company I work for in the future.

Why would you say I come from a strong religious background?

I have a Japanese wife and I live with her in Okazaki.

I do not own ANY shops in Japan. I never said that I did. I do however own 3 business all based in the US at the moment.

Yes I agree use usenet for warez and porn...its much better than bitching and moaning over kazaa and napster (and for gods sake please use something other than hotmail if your choice of browser doesnt work with it...nobody is twisting your fucking arm)

What else would you like to know about me?
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Postby Robato » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:28 pm

double post
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Postby oyajikun » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:31 pm

*EDIT* wrong thread lol
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Postby Robato » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:34 pm

Robato wrote:IE has added built in pop up software with its latest release, as well as some of the other features you listed (then again, I dont visit porno sites, so it probably a feature I will turn off)


to big booger...necro is really beligerant and feels my posts are against people. I hope you dont feel the same. My meaning was not to say that you are a pornoholic or anything...but that the only places that you really have to worry about popups at are generally pornsites.

(porn sites are one of my businesses...which is another reason why I dont go to them...I design that shit all day)

and now neo knows more about me!!!! YEAY!!!
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:38 pm

Robato wrote:
I wasnt the one getting pissed in your little attack on me in our earlier discussion.


Is this inferring that I was, unlikely. As you instigated the arguement. By attacking other people. All you ever do is attack other people, oh and crap flood aswell. I never get pissed as I do a bit of trolling myself. Modern trolling is just about getting a response/attention which only makes me happier. Hence feeding the Troll.


I wasnt arguing, just saying why such the big uproar over IE....I even stated, ok maybe you like those features that IE doesnt provide...then just use another free email service.

Robato wrote:Dont get upset, I didnt call you a moron or anything


Yeah this time. Previous:

robato wrote:Im done arguing with you....you are fucking retarded


robato wrote:Its amazing how belligerent you get when someone doesn't share your opinion. Do you and bejita sleep together?


BTW there is nothing wrong with visiting pr0n sites. Only if it is agianst your religion that is.
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Postby Robato » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:43 pm

dude calm down, that didnt even make sense
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Postby masaka___ » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:47 pm

Forget hotmail.com. Go to http://fastmail.fm/ -- way Way WAY better service. You'll never look back.
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:56 pm

Robato wrote:dude calm down, that didnt even make sense

Ofcourse it didnt make sense you edited your post by the time I replied.(good tactic I think I am going to steal that tactic in future flame wars).

Please if you are going to call me or somebody else something think of something more original that belligerent.
Some deffinations of belligerent
present participle of belligerare to wage war
mean having an aggressive or fighting attitude.
implies being actually at war or engaged in hostilities
stresses an ill-natured readiness to fight without good cause

On second thoughts that sound pretty much like me to an extent. Except that fact I often start interesting threads and contribute to others opinions.

But you dont dtart other threads and disagree so I guess you would be a better candidate for the term.

A thesaurus will give some other words that you can use instead

bellicose, combative, contentious, gladiatorial, militant, pugnacious, quarrelsome, ructious, scrappy, truculent.
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:08 pm

masaka___ wrote:Forget hotmail.com. Go to http://fastmail.fm/ -- way Way WAY better service. You'll never look back.


I also use fastmail.fm but I dont like its address. I think mail.com is great address wize but just to many popups. One of my email addresses is wabi-sabi@japan.com that is the only reason I will use Mail.com
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Postby Big Booger » Tue Dec 02, 2003 5:54 pm

I don't give a rats ass what you like or not. hehehe

I was simply giving an opinion. I used to think IE was the only browser. Now I think it is one of many to use. I rarely use it because of the tabbed browsing feature in Mozilla. I can setup Mozilla to open 10 of the most frequently visited pages that I browse daily.

It really is great, but if the basic features of IE are all that you care about, then IE is your browser.

Some people like government cheese, others like Gouda, Cheddar, Mozzarella, and so on.

To me, IE is the government cheese.. hard, crumbly, very little taste but it fills you up..

IE is also full of holes..

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,99623,00.asp

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-2530362.html

http://news.com.com/2100-1001-277045.html

IE also supports Activex, and natively sets it up so that pages are automatically accepted to load Activex controls, which is a major security risk, if you visit a rouge page that is out to exploit Activex.

And as for speed, indeed I was talking about dialup users.. they benefit from that.. I didn't switch to mozilla for that..

I use outlook for hotmail, so this thread really doesnt apply to me.. I was just stating an opinion on the state of IE..

To me, IE sucks ass.. major ass.. like a like a hooker with no privates. :D
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Postby Neo-Rio » Tue Dec 02, 2003 6:00 pm

Well, I'm using Opera and can get into Hotmail OK....

dunno about the Linux browsers, but will try later on.
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Postby Robato » Tue Dec 02, 2003 11:30 pm

this is what neo did earlier....completely changed his post after I posted.
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Postby NeoNecroNomiCron » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:23 am

Robbert we may have our differences and that does not bother me. I was mearly pointing out you are rarley on-topic and your facts are actualy not facts. for instance.

Last edited by Robato on Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:28 pm; edited 1 time in total
In this very thread.

In this thread I was just winding youi up to be troll bate and any respoice from you shows a diminished cognitave ability, commononly fefered to as mental retardation. he are a few clews from my posts if you missed them

I do a bit of trolling myself.


Modern trolling Is just about getting a response/attention which only makes me happier


Read Trolling HowTo Then you will see you mistake in even trying to win the flame war.

Gomi Girl and Alcazar in the past started giving people their Flame Warrior Profiles. Although I was labeled A weenie to get my tits up. I am more of an Ego / Jerk

I would say at this stage you are a mixture of a Newbie / Heading the way of a Troglodyte

Do you think you can actualy win this flame war, Unlikley...
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Postby GargoyleTS » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:39 am

I just gotta step in here...

BB: Fark you! I like Gubmint Cheese! And the worst part is, I got no connection to get it anymore! (fam was on welfare as a kid and I got no military connections to hit the commisary) :(
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Postby devicenull » Wed Dec 03, 2003 12:58 pm

yea, i did this crazy thing where i bought a domain and webspace, and now i have all the email addresses i want, the software i want to use to access my account, and the only limit to the size of my attachments is the size of my quota...good times, good times
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Postby Robato » Wed Dec 03, 2003 8:44 pm

NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:good job
Last edited by NeoNecroNomiCron on Tue Dec 02, 2003 4:45 pm]
look at the your post before my last post.


NeoNecroNomiCron wrote:
Last edited by Robato on Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:28 pm]In this very thread.


yep a full hour before you edited yours...which means I didnt edit it AFTER YOUR POST as you stated.

As I said, calm down and you wont have to go back and edit your posts to make sense, like you did with the post you edited Dec 02, 2003 at 4:45 pm. (a full hour after I edited my post to add in comments to big booger)

You are making a mountain out of a mole hill. I dont care about the features that opera have, I dont use tab browsing nor do I use popup stoppers.....as I have said, if you dont like that opera doesnt work with hotmail, just use another free email service. This was not an attack on you...why are you so belligerent?

You speak about facts that I state are not really facts....but I dont think I listed any facts in this thread.....can your angry belligerent attitude go and find some up in other threads for me? You have completely changed the subject of the thread because you are itching to flame me with every post I make. This is your 3rd time doing this. Im not going to quote you, cause you know what you are doing.

btw Im not trying to "win a flame war"..I just want you to quit following me around and being belligerent towards me everytime I post. (its funny how you are keeping tabs with every post I make and quoting me out of context and then calling me a troll)
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Postby Big Booger » Wed Dec 03, 2003 10:49 pm

GargoyleTS wrote:I just gotta step in here...

BB: Fark you! I like Gubmint Cheese! And the worst part is, I got no connection to get it anymore! (fam was on welfare as a kid and I got no military connections to hit the commisary) :(


muwhahahaha..

Funny thing is not many people even know what the hell government cheese, butter, eggs, beans and so on are.. LMAO.
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Postby GargoyleTS » Thu Dec 04, 2003 2:03 pm

Big Booger wrote:
GargoyleTS wrote:I just gotta step in here...

BB: Fark you! I like Gubmint Cheese! And the worst part is, I got no connection to get it anymore! (fam was on welfare as a kid and I got no military connections to hit the commisary) :(


muwhahahaha..

Funny thing is not many people even know what the hell government cheese, butter, eggs, beans and so on are.. LMAO.
:D


That's so sad! That few will ever know the blessing of receiving a 5lb BRICK of American cheese. Or that 2lb block of butter (we only used about half of it by the end of each month). It certainly made the beans taste better though...and for those who may be wondering...WE GOT RICE TOO! :D
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Postby Big Booger » Thu Dec 04, 2003 3:23 pm

The real funning thing is that the government cheese looked like Velveeta... but I'll be damned if they taste the same..
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http://www.glossynews.com/artman/publish/gov-cheese.shtml

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Postby Caustic Saint » Thu Dec 04, 2003 3:32 pm

Sadly - or not - Velveeta is the best cheese for the money in Korea. The locally produced stuff is disgusting and greasy, but Velveeta is like cheesy slices of gold. Melts perfectly and makes great cheese ramen. It runs about $5-6 for the 20-slice pack, but it's totally worth it.
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Postby ramchop » Thu Dec 04, 2003 3:34 pm

"cheese ramen"... that sounds WRONG! :puke:
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