2020 Japan Olympics

[kurogane]

Bending over in a public washroom, eh!?................................

[Samurai_Jerk]

Bending over in a public washroom, eh!?................................

Bending over the in the men's room is probably right up choko's alley. Any guy who brags that much about getting pussy must be keeping something closeted.

[Salty]

Bending over in a public washroom, eh!?................................

Good point - best to lock the door first...

[matsuki]

Bending over in a public washroom, eh!?................................

Bending over the in the men's room is probably right up choko's alley. Any guy who brags that much about getting pussy must be keeping something closeted.

IPU swears I was spying on him when his Spicy Kimchee was over too bad it was just me pulling stuff out of the fridge which was right in front of his door.

I tried messing with the settings on the machines I encountered today...the new ones look like monoliths and the whole face opens up. One was set to 100% the other was waaaaay less and I cranked it up as some younger kid was walking up to the sink. He was laughing when he realized what I did.

[Russell]

Ahhhh, could be a west coast thing. They were all over Las Vegas as well. Anyhow, they totally own the Toto hand dryers.

You know what works really well? Paper towels.

How often do you see those anymore?

The worst are those never ending loop towels...those are probably more bacteria filled than the catch tank of the hand dryers.

Hand towel or hand air dryer? Finally, an answer

Ever finished washing your hands and thought, 'Hmm, I wonder what's more hygienic, using the warm air dryer or the towel?' and then thought 'Hmm I really need to start having more interesting thoughts'? Well, you're not alone!

Researchers tested the amount of bacteria left on the skin after hands were dried using both methods, and the results might surprise you.

Washing hands and using paper towels or continuous-loop cotton towels reduced the bacterial count by 45-60 per cent, while using a warm air dryer in fact increased the bacterial count by an average of 255 per cent.

"It turned out the bacteria were already inside the warm air dryers thanks to the moist environment," Dr. Karl Kruszelnicki (yes, that's a real doctor) wrote in his book Curious and Curiouser.

"Every single warm air dryer had high bacterial counts on the air inlet, while 97 per cent had them on the outlet nozzle surface, too."

Air-based dryers in fact spread bacteria and other germs in tiny droplets, like a really disgusting aerosol.

Kruszelnicki notes that our bodies are resilient enough to keep most of these bacteria at bay, but suggests you also go for towels (preferably recyclable) over driers anyway as they dry your hands quicker and give the friction needed to shift bacteria that you don't get from a pathetic gust of air.

He said that jet air dryers e.g the Dyson Airblade do about as good a job as towels [...]

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[Yokohammer]

Hand towel or hand air dryer? Finally, an answer

... Washing hands and using paper towels or continuous-loop cotton towels reduced the bacterial count by 45-60 per cent, while using a warm air dryer in fact increased the bacterial count by an average of 255 per cent.

"It turned out the bacteria were already inside the warm air dryers thanks to the moist environment," Dr. Karl Kruszelnicki (yes, that's a real doctor) wrote in his book Curious and Curiouser.

"Every single warm air dryer had high bacterial counts on the air inlet, while 97 per cent had them on the outlet nozzle surface, too."

Air-based dryers in fact spread bacteria and other germs in tiny droplets, like a really disgusting aerosol.

All that technology for nothing ...

[kurogane]

Like most technology lately. So are you eagerly awaiting the deluge of silly electronic conveniences in the runup to 2020? Like the hyper expensive solar powered composting garbage bins?

I know you're not, btw

[Yokohammer]

Like most technology lately. So are you eagerly awaiting the deluge of silly electronic conveniences in the runup to 2020? Like the hyper expensive solar powered composting garbage bins?

I know you're not, btw

You're right on both counts: (1) a lot of technology exists purely for its own sake, and (2) nope.

I'm a bit of a techie myself, and I do appreciate it when the state of the art actually offers some kind of improvement, but so much of it is just there to sell something or overload the senses. Sometimes low-tech -- a piece of paper and a pencil, for example -- is just better.

I will admit to being a bit surprised by the towels-are-better-than-blowers verdict though.

[Russell]

Like most technology lately. So are you eagerly awaiting the deluge of silly electronic conveniences in the runup to 2020? Like the hyper expensive solar powered composting garbage bins?

Any links?

Want to know what I miss by composting the old-fashioned way.

[Russell]

Like most technology lately. So are you eagerly awaiting the deluge of silly electronic conveniences in the runup to 2020? Like the hyper expensive solar powered composting garbage bins?

I know you're not, btw

You're right on both counts: (1) a lot of technology exists purely for its own sake, and (2) nope.

I'm a bit of a techie myself, and I do appreciate it when the state of the art actually offers some kind of improvement, but so much of it is just there to sell something or overload the senses. Sometimes low-tech -- a piece of paper and a pencil, for example -- is just better.

I will admit to being a bit surprised by the towels-are-better-than-blowers verdict though.

But the Dyson Airblade is as good as towels, according to the last sentence.

Don't know why Dysons are evaluated so well. Are the high winds too much for them germs?

[kurogane]

Hey
Here is a pic of the Vancouver ones:


And here is an article
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=66a7089b-a43d-4bfa-954b-48cceb3ac928

I thought there was also some sort of hyper electronic solar powered composting Wundah Machine but that didn't come up on Google.

I am sure they have legitimate uses, especially the compaction function, but my point about the Olympics is that the sheer number of them will likely result in rows and rows of expensive disposables, or at least a huge budget for something that could be done on the cheap. I think they should use the Matsuri garbage system, with the rusty old wire cages and peeling plywood lids. To show visitors The Real Japan. But they won't, because Face always wins.

Yokohammer,
Yeah, agreed. I am not an actual Luddite, but I do get very tired very quickly of so much of the new consumer junk. It's like electronic Pet Rocks. OTOH, I have a thing for appropriate technology that borders on fetish. My current craze is shoe boxes for everything: luggage organisers, backpack frameboards, etc. etc. I do appreciate genuine advancements and developments, especially in areas like prosthetics and aids for the disabled. I also love the relatively recent advances in ski technology: I was geting rather bored of the old 205 cm toothpicks but didn't really want to snowboard.............and then they thought to shrink a snowboard and put one on each foot and off to the races we went. It is so revolutionary it's hard to describe unless you have skiied on both old and new. Now none of that is Necessary but it is appropriate and beneficial.

[Yokohammer]

But the Dyson Airblade is as good as towels, according to the last sentence.

Don't know why Dysons are evaluated so well. Are the high winds too much for them germs?

Apparently it has a built-in HEPA filter.

But I haven't seen these anywhere so the point is kinda moot in my world.

[matsuki]

But the Dyson Airblade is as good as towels, according to the last sentence.

Don't know why Dysons are evaluated so well. Are the high winds too much for them germs?

Apparently it has a built-in HEPA filter.

But I haven't seen these anywhere so the point is kinda moot in my world.

They're also deeper and designed to not give you a face blast full of bacteria, despite the power. I have a Dyson Handheld and have to say, I got nothing but love for them.

Anyhow, on the west coast, it seems everyone seems to be switching to these or the other "blast your skin off" high powered one I posted above. (it doesn't have a tray below so I assume moisture and blowback isn't an issue like it is with the Japanese ones.

[Coligny]

They're also deeper and designed to not give you a face blast full of bacteria, despite the power. I have a Dyson Handheld and have to say, I got nothing but love for them.

i find this statement extremely disturbing...

[matsuki]

quickly hides fleshlight attachment.

[Mike Oxlong]

IOC approves 3 venue changes for Tokyo 2020 Olympics

Organizers of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics got the go-ahead Friday from the IOC executive board to change three venue locations, with more changes expected in the next few months as the Japanese try to cuts costs.

Toshiro Muto, chief executive officer, said that basketball, equestrian and canoe-slalom would be moved. He said the executive board approved plans for 17 venues to stay the same. Muto said about 10 remained, and said some might be changed.

“For these three changes we already had a consensus from the international federations,” Muto said.

Basketball goes to the Saitama Super Arena north of central Tokyo. It was the site of the 2006 world basketball championship.

Equestrian moves to Baji Park, a venue from the city’s 1964 Olympics. Canoe-slalom goes from Kasai Rinkai Park to a spot outside the park.

“We are working on some others, and there’s potential for some other changes all with the view to sustainability and addressing some cost savings,” said John Coates, head of the IOC inspection team for Tokyo.

He listed several sports that could see venue changes, which the IOC could approve in June. Among them: taekwondo, badminton, sailing, velodrome cycling, and fencing.

Christophe Dubi, Olympic Games Executive Director, said the changes so far would save Tokyo about $1 billion.

“It’s a very substantial figure, and it will continue to grow,” Dubi said.

The IOC awarded Tokyo the games partly because it was compact with 85 percent of the venues within an 8-kilometer radius.

Coates said the changes lowered that number to 66%. But he said Tokyo was now using 50% existing venues, up from 33%.

He said a decision on new sports for the Tokyo Games would not be made until 2016. Baseball and softball are widely expected to be added. Other candidates include karate and squash.

Tokyo has been quick to line up domestic sponsors, including camera maker Canon and the brewer Ashai. It has almost moved rapidly on the IOC’s Olympic Agenda 2020, which is designed to cut the cost of the games and give organizers flexibility.

“The IOC applauded the Tokyo presentation,” Coates said. “They are very, very pleased with the support already; the commercial support, the corporate structure. It was a very good presentation.”

http://www.japantoday.com/category/spor ... 0-olympics

[gaijinpunch]

Let's not forget this one.

[Coligny]

LAPIN !

[Taro Toporific]

The fuckin' retards just finished tearing down the perfectly re-usable old stadium last week, and now they cannot build the improvements to the new stadium (which was the whole the reason for building the new venue in the first place).

With time running out, Japan to scale back stadium for 2020 Tokyo Olympics
JAPAN TODAY -- May 19, 2015
Japan plans to scale back the main stadium for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics as the government runs short of money and time, the country's sports minister said Monday.
Hakubun Shimomura said a planned retractable roof wouldn't be built in time for the games, and some of the 80,000 seats would be temporary ones, according to Japanese media reports.
Shimomura, whose ministry oversees sports, education and science, made the remarks in an exchange of views with Tokyo Gov. Yoichi Masuzoe. He asked if the city of Tokyo could shoulder 50 billion yen ($418 million) of the 169 billion yen construction cost. Masuzoe was non-committal...more...

[Yokohammer]

Yep, this is just embarrassing. An olympic stadium with no roof.
In Tokyo, in the middle of summer. It ain't 1964 ya know.
Nice going guys. And it's not like they weren't told.
A-holes.


~ Tapatalking ~

[Takechanpoo]

you want it to be preserved for nostalgia of you gaijin oldtimers?
j-peepoos wouldnt give a fuk about it, i think

[Coligny]

5 years to build an unfinished stadium ?

I thought they knew concrete dry faster than the cow dung they traditionnally use for construction here...

you want it to be preserved for nostalgia of you gaijin oldtimers?
j-peepoos wouldnt give a fuk about it, i think

Do they have shortbus in Japan ? Or this guy had to be homeschooled ?

[Wage Slave]

you want it to be preserved for nostalgia of you gaijin oldtimers?
j-peepoos wouldnt give a fuk about it, i think

Off on a unique tangent again. The issue is that they now say they won't be able to install the roof before for the games because the schedule has slipped. All new stadiums have a roof these days because otherwise they are frankly substandard. Imagine the scene - The world switches on their TVs to watch the men's 100m final live from Tokyo. But what's this? Driving rain and gloom? Absolutely humiliating I would have thought - especially for a country that prides itself on its industrial prowess.

Carry on.

[kurogane]

especially for a country that prides itself on its industrial prowess.

Other than the empty platitudes of those that still sort of look at me and you as the grandsons of their ex-enemies, do you find many actually revel in that crap anymore? Does the wife, or co-workers? Just curious, of course, but I have found the slow silent death of that whole trope to be one of the most refreshing aspects of the last 10 years or so. I think in part people are just happy to be really First World and don't feel the need to do the empty crowing, plus the fact that so many are so constantly worried about how thin their wallets are getting they have neither the time nor the energy to engage in that sort of childish breast beating.

But you'll be happy to know that everyone Back Here (UK too last time I looked) harps on about that crap like I am a racist for occasionally qualifying it (like complaining about the lack of internet in general and WIFi in particular).

Anyways..........BOT: I think it's sort of sweet how you treat Bamboo Poo like a peer of sorts. Very respectful, actually. Now stop that

So, the Olympic Boondoggle......rofl......and to think you guys were all for it at first ........

[Yokohammer]

So, the Olympic Boondoggle......rofl......and to think you guys were all for it at first ........

I'm all for the olympics, but this stadium thing has been an embarrassment waiting to happen right from design stage. Everyone I know who has even a smidgeon of architectural savvy, including an actual architect or two, took one look at that plan and went ... "nope." I'm more surprised that it has taken them this long to own up to the fact that it ain't gonna happen. I'm guessing there were quite a few muppets in the construction and related industries who saw the flashing yen sign, figured they'd better just say "yeah, no problem," and then work out the details later. Avaricious, rapacious fothermuckers.

Done well the olympics could launch Japan into a new era of growth. Fucked up it could make the country look really feeble.

Will they recover in time?

Popcorn at the ready ...

[kurogane]

Well put. I was playfully baiting Taro there, but I had thought you were not really behind them either.

After Vancouver 2010 whatever residual doubts I had about the Olypmics being little more than a 5 ring set of economic shackles foisted on the blathering plebs were completely erased. The whole thing is a scam, especially the economic development argument: that sort of rapid, spastic narrow development is simply not broad enough, relevant enough or efficient enough to foster real economic development in MYHOMO. It's like trying to fill a thimble with water poured from a huge bucket while standing on a half inflated exercise ball.

I do hope they go off well, though, of course.

[Salty]

An easy solution to this problem... open an international tender, no Japanese construction firms need apply, and of course put Romney in charge...

[Wage Slave]

I do hope they go off well, though, of course.

That's the thing. I think you have a very good point about the overweening pride in industrial prowess giving way to a much more realistic and civilised vibe. But, put on a participatory show for the world and have it ruined by a rainstorm during the opening/closing ceremony or the 100 metres finals - That really will be a shocking waste of money.

Regarding London. I agree that the economic arguments are hard to stand up - but then you never know the full benefits, how many extra tourists, how many extra sales of product etc. What I thought was worth it was the transformation in the attitude of Londoners. From miserable, mean, "Do I know you?" types to fairly friendly and helpful. I was amazed and what price eh? They did put a lot of thought and talking into legacy but predictably in terms of participation in sport and use of the buildings it isn't anything like as high as was promised - that's true.

Unlike Japan, the UK needs some stimulus to get on and build infrastructure otherwise the talking, scrimping and squabbling will go on forever. Witness the fabled high speed train to the second city or the overcrowded weeping sore that is Heathrow. Japan has the opposite problem. At least the Olympics got the channel tunnel link built under East London, St Pancras station restored and that area finally cleaned up.

[canman]

What pisses me off is that Masazoe, the governor of Tokyo doesn't want to pay his share of the construction costs, claiming that this is to be the "National stadium". Well, the last time I checked it is being built in the middle of Tokyo, and will mostly be used by Tokyo, so why the hell shouldn't they have to pay their fare share. Were these not the same ass clowns who didn't want any venues outside of Tokyo, since these were to be the Tokyo Olympics. Even though all of us are stuck paying for them, no matter where we live!

[Russell]

Article about the FIFA containing the following quote.

To borrow the example of another quadrennial athletic extravaganza, there's a reason why no one but autocrats want to host the Olympics anymore. As Timothy McGrath of Global Post has written, "Hosting the games has become such a massive, expensive, and unpopular chore that it's getting harder to convince anybody to do it." Except, of course, the regimes that use such events to disburse taxpayer funds to their henchmen and that need the prestige of sport to boost their tainted international reputations.

LOL