2020 Japan Olympics

[matsuki]

It's not that we disagree with the assessment...but the defeated sentiment has a worse effect than the whole がんばれ日本! without any ganbare movement.

[Russell]

“This will be the final festival,” says Yasunari Ueno, 52, Tokyo-based chief market economist at Mizuho Securities Co.

The "Japan is finished" mentality must feel really good to the youth of Japan.

It could be argued that they act like they already know it.

[kurogane]

In other news: "Overcrowded metropolis to become somewhat less crowded, happy to cede meaningless size statistic to 3rd-world pollution hellhole".

Thank you. No, really. ............. If Japan isn't careful they could end up as miserable as the Scandowegian countries. Tons of happy, well cared for citizens that don't measure the worth of their life by the size of their neighbour's dick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

[matsuki]

In other news: "Overcrowded metropolis to become somewhat less crowded, happy to cede meaningless size statistic to 3rd-world pollution hellhole".

Thank you. No, really. ............. If Japan isn't careful they could end up as miserable as the Scandowegian countries. Tons of happy, well cared for citizens that don't measure the worth of their life by the size of their neighbour's dick.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report

I wonder what that scale looks like for reasonable Japanese who have lived abroad...

[kurogane]

Not to mention the gazillions that haven't. I don't place as much stock in these Foreign Life Timers as you seem to, but they could certainly be a useful vanguard or catalyst, and provide a voice for turning the Battleship Yamato into the Japawegian monoethnic hippie love commune it could easily be. Maybe it's whom I meet, but I am not running into these liberal cosmopolitans you seem to find. Indeed, many returnees I have met or know are more entrenched and conservative vis a vis The Gaikoku (There Can Be Only One!), probably because of the heightened sense of difference and opposition that experience often engenders. Research shows that tourism (incl. WHs, etc) is as likely to reinforce preexisting stereotypes as to break them down. Plus, let's not forget that statistically returnees are a pittance; I think We meet more coz of our social circles. I wanna meet these ones you're meeting. They sound cool. I am barely batting 500 in terms of a nice meeting of minds. I get lectured a lot about The Problems of Gaikoku (guess where?? ) and how lucky I am to have escaped them. Nothing too aggravating, but pretty boring and very not inspiring. And I don't even get to be That Boring Canadian that SamJ so loves and agree wholeheartedly, mostly because I don't air our continental dirty laundry in public but also because they simply can't accept that the states and Canada really are different countries.

[matsuki]

I get lectured a lot about The Problems of Gaikoku (guess where?? ) and how lucky I am to have escaped them. Nothing too aggravating, but pretty boring and very not inspiring. And I don't even get to be That Boring Canadian that SamJ so loves and agree wholeheartedly, mostly because I don't air our continental dirty laundry in public but also because they simply can't accept that the states and Canada really are different countries.

LOL, and this is people who lived abroad? Quick vacation in Guam is not what i'm talking about but actual time spent living in another country...and working for better wages without sabisuzangyo.The best example I know is a nurse who spent a few years working in Australia...only to come back to Japan and get appalled at how much less she made and how much unpaid overtime there was in the exact same position. I'm always getting lectured 海外ではand外国ではby idiots who have never been abroad, let alone to the places they feel Japan is superior to...but it's a different story when the person has been there and it's nothing like they heard/read/saw in a movie.

[Taro Toporific]

Japanese folks have been having fun mocking the fraudulent new National Stadium for the 2020 Olympics and I joined them at the twitter.com hashtag: #新国立競技場クソコラグランプ (twitter account is not needed to view)

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NO MORE

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G線上のセァブラ‏@SAY_A_BLUR 12 July 2015 -- NO MORE #新国立競技場クソコラグランプリ

[Taro Toporific]

NHK poll: 19% approve of the $2-billion Olympic toilet bowl!
NHK World | Jul. 14, 2015

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Poll: 81% disapprove $2-billion Olympic stadium
NHK World | Jul. 14, 2015
An NHK poll shows that more than 80 percent of people surveyed disapprove a plan to build a new Olympic stadium in Tokyo that costs more than 2 billion dollars. The facility will be the main arena for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics...more...

[matsuki]

81% disapproval rating...now that's passion

[yanpa]

Here's a petition to sign (copy and paste link as forum software doesn't cope with kanji in URLs):

https://www.change.org/p/巨額の建設費をかけない新国立競技場を求めます

[Takechanpoo]

after the security bill passed, which can reduce abes approval rate, the admin announced reconsidering the stadium construction.
good bye persecuted-complexed zaha hadid

[Taro Toporific]

Right now, bunches of reporters are rumoring on twitter that PM Abe had just announced that Japan's plans for the Olympic stadium will be scrapped.
Stayed tuned for this troll of the week...

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Yep, PM Abe says Japan is starting its Olympic stadium plans from scratch. Now, if only he'd do the same with the security bills.
@DavidMcNeill3 | 3:42 PM - 17 Jul 2015 (journalist with The Economist and japanfocus.org)

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[yanpa]

新国立競技場　首相が見直しを表明「白紙に戻す」

[Taro Toporific]

Prime minister says Japan will redo the plans for the costly Tokyo ...
U.S. News & World Report‎ - 2015-July-17 4pm
TOKYO (AP) — In a major reversal, Japan's leader has announced that the plans for the main stadium for the 2020 Olympics will be redone because of spiraling ...


Japan won't have new National Stadium ready for 2019 Rugby ...
Reuters‎ | 2015-July-17 4pm
The stadium, which is also set to be the centrepiece for the 2020 Olympics Games in Tokyo, had been scheduled to hold both the opening match and the final of ...


Olympic stadium building plan back to drawing board: Abe
TOKYO, July 17, 2015 4pm Kyodo
Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Friday he has decided to bring the current building plan for the Olympic stadium back to the drawing board amid public uproar over its soaring costs.

[matsuki]

So does that original designer just get the shaft?

[Taro Toporific]

So does that original designer just get the shaft?

She is very safe from getting the SHAFT from anybody.

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[matsuki]

[Coligny]

The fact that "negative popular opinion" (usually totally irrelevant in japan) is used as excuse to cancel an impressively expensive pork barrel project might be an extremly worrisome indicator of the state of the finance of the japanese governement.

Now maybe not...
But since when do this country give a fuck about its nation ?

[yanpa]

Initial concept for the new design just released:

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[Russell]

Initial concept for the new design just released:

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Too expensive.

They will go for a Chinese design instead...



BTW, how come that Coligny sounds the most eloquent of all in this thread?

[Mike Oxlong]

The fact that "negative popular opinion" (usually totally irrelevant in japan) is used as excuse to cancel an impressively expensive pork barrel project might be an extremly worrisome indicator of the state of the finance of the japanese governement.

Now maybe not...
But since when do this country give a fuck about its nation ?

Bait & switch? War Act - fuck public opinion. Orimpikusu - how's my driving? call 1-800-luv-yous

[Salty]

They didn`t need to scrap the design - just the bidders. Give the contract to an Indian, Chinese, Korean - hell firms from almost any other country, and it would come in on time and on budget.

[wagyl]

They didn`t need to scrap the design - just the bidders. Give the contract to an Indian, Chinese, Korean - hell firms from almost any other country, and it would come in on time and on budget.

Ooh, does it get a Qatar style death toll too?

[Salty]

They didn`t need to scrap the design - just the bidders. Give the contract to an Indian, Chinese, Korean - hell firms from almost any other country, and it would come in on time and on budget.

Ooh, does it get a Qatar style death toll too?

Sorry - that didn`t translate for me...

[Wage Slave]

Same designer but eat your heart out Japan. Not for you.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/05/27/a-body-count-in-qatar-illustrates-the-consequences-of-fifa-corruption/

There isn't exact data available - I wonder why. Anyway, It's safe to assume that the wages are low, the hours are long and not too much sleep is lost over unsafe working conditions for migrant workers in Qatar.

[legion]

They didn`t need to scrap the design - just the bidders. Give the contract to an Indian, Chinese, Korean - hell firms from almost any other country, and it would come in on time and on budget.

With extra sand in the concrete too!

[Salty]

I bet if you turned it over to a few techies, they could come up with a holographic covering that would look awesome. Cheap too and safe to construct....

[Salty]

They didn`t need to scrap the design - just the bidders. Give the contract to an Indian, Chinese, Korean - hell firms from almost any other country, and it would come in on time and on budget.

With extra sand in the concrete too!

That happens here too, along with skimping on reinforcement steel....

I`d like to see a suspension bridge design - maybe four towers and lots of cables to carry the roof. With all of Japan`s big bridges, they should have lots of experience.

[kurogane]

Are there actually any good reasons any national Olympic committee would use foreign contractors? Part of an Olympic bid is supposed to be local economic development, after all. Or is this just more of the usual "Why doesn't Japan do what I tell it to"?

BTW< I got a good laugh at the idea of using Indian contractors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerns_ ... alth_Games I like the RCMP's Sikh uniform turban and a nice curry but those idjits couldn't organise a shit in a toilet. Of which they have a shortage.

BTW, that Catarrh stadium looks like a Klingon vagina. That architect must have a sugar uncle somewhere. She's terribly untalented.

[Russell]

Are there actually any good reasons any national Olympic committee would use foreign contractors? Part of an Olympic bid is supposed to be local economic development, after all. Or is this just more of the usual "Why doesn't Japan do what I tell it to"?

BTW< I got a good laugh at the idea of using Indian contractors: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerns_ ... alth_Games I like the RCMP's Sikh uniform turban and a nice curry but those idjits couldn't organise a shit in a toilet. Of which they have a shortage.

BTW, that Catarrh stadium looks like a Klingon vagina. That architect must have a sugar uncle somewhere. She's terribly untalented.

Yeah, they could have gone for a local design by someone who has experience in that area.

And the funny thing is, they already have a big stadium with a seat capacity of 72,000 spectators. That's 90% of the required number. Why not use that and pull a cheapy?!?