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Japanese plant(Itadori) makes British go mad

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Japanese plant(Itadori) makes British go mad

Postby Takechanpoo » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:02 pm

The troublesome plant arrived in Britain on a boat from Japan in 1850 at the request of the Royal Botanic Gardens of Kew.
Horticulturalists across Europe at first celebrated knotweed for its beauty and agricultural applications, so much so that in 1847 it was named the 'most interesting new ornamental plant of the year' by the Society of ­Agriculture and Horticulture at Utrecht in Holland.
But it soon became a major problem for homeowners and gardeners and it was made an offence within the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 to let it grow in the wild.
The plant's extensive deep roots can penetrate roads, concrete, damage foundations, drains and even flood defences.
But knotweed cannot be dug out of the ground, as if less than a gram of its roots is missed it will rapidly regrow.



Then, in the most chilling case to date, Kenneth McRae, 52, killed his wife unlawfully before committing suicide because of the troublesome plant.
The lab technician battered his partner Jane, 55, with a bottle of perfume as she lay in their bed, causing fatal head injuries.
In a chilling suicide note, he said he killed his wife because his mind had been 'disturbed' by knotweed at their home in Rowley Regis, West Midlands.

He wrote: 'I believe I was not an evil man, until the balance of my mind was disturbed by the fact there is a patch of Japanese Knotweed which has been growing over our boundary fence on the Rowley Regis Golf Course.'

He claimed golf course managers had been made aware of the problem but nothing had been done.
After trying to curb the weed's growth unsuccessfully, he said the risk of structural damage and legal battles 'led to my growing madness.'


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Re: Japanese plant(Itadori) makes British go mad

Postby Salty » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:17 pm

I`ll have to look around and see if I can find some.
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Re: Japanese plant(Itadori) makes British go mad

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:40 pm

Reminds of kudzu problem in the Southeastern US.
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Re: Japanese plant(Itadori) makes British go mad

Postby Russell » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:14 pm

Can anyone identify this plant?

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I had it in my garden, and found it kind of cute, so I potted it.

It does not grow fast, but that is because it is in a very sunny spot on not so good soil. It has many small holes in its leaves, which may indicate that it is being eaten by some insect.

What alarmed me is that its roots grew out of its pot into the underlying soil, and another plant of the same appearance appeared at the place where I dug this one up.

It has some eerie similarities to Japanese knotweed, though I wouldn't call it an exact match.

Here is an identification sheet.

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and here is another

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One feature of my plant is a flat base of its leaves, which is like knotweed.

Arrrggghhhh....

Anyone seen this fucker before?
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Re: Japanese plant(Itadori) makes British go mad

Postby wagyl » Mon Jul 27, 2015 9:32 pm

Even if what you have there is knotweed (and I do not think it is, because there are enough differences, but on the other hand I can not identify it positively as something else), there are enough natural predators and competitors here to keep it in check. As we all know, gaijin flourish outside their place of birth, with less competition and fewer annoyances snapping at our heels, so it is for plants. A Japanese who gets drunk and pisses all over the neighbour's fence when in Britain (i.e. Japanese knotweed abroad) will not do the same back home.

You might need to wait until your specimen flowers before we can make a positive identification.
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Postby Russell » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:28 pm

wagyl wrote:Even if what you have there is knotweed (and I do not think it is, because there are enough differences, but on the other hand I can not identify it positively as something else), there are enough natural predators and competitors here to keep it in check. As we all know, gaijin flourish outside their place of birth, with less competition and fewer annoyances snapping at our heels, so it is for plants. A Japanese who gets drunk and pisses all over the neighbour's fence when in Britain (i.e. Japanese knotweed abroad) will not do the same back home.

You might need to wait until your specimen flowers before we can make a positive identification.

Yep, that is true, but flowers are the plant's sexual organs.

Do you really want to take it that far?

I mean, once sex is involved, it is easy to get offspring.
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Re: Japanese plant(Itadori) makes British go mad

Postby wagyl » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:38 pm

Flowers are the courting stage. You can remove them before they go to seed. And it sounds like your greater concern was vegetative propagation anyway.

You are aware that Japanese knotweed is a sansai vegetable in certain regions, I suppose. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallopia_japonica Not that I think that is what you have there...

You are welcome to work through this series of identification keys: easier for you there with the specimen than us here with just a photo, but you are welcome to consult with us. http://homepage2.nifty.com/syokubutu-kensaku/
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Postby Russell » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:46 pm

wagyl wrote:Flowers are the courting stage. You can remove them before they go to seed. And it sounds like your greater concern was vegetative propagation anyway.

You are aware that Japanese knotweed is a sansai vegetable in certain regions, I suppose. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallopia_japonica Not that I think that is what you have there...

Yep, some people seem to enjoy eating that stuff.

Now if only those westerners could adopt their diets...
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Re: Japanese plant(Itadori) makes British go mad

Postby wagyl » Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:51 pm

(repeating here what I added in an edit above after you had replied)

You are welcome to work through this series of identification keys: easier for you there with the specimen than us here with just a photo, but you are welcome to consult with us. http://homepage2.nifty.com/syokubutu-kensaku/
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Postby Takechanpoo » Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:25 am

the guy brought itadori to euro is Siebold. :shock:
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Japanese knotweed, or Fallopia Japonica, was brought to Europe from Japan in the mid-19C by German-born botanist Phillipp von Siebold who found it growing on the sides of volcanoes.

Initially lauded for its beauty and potential as animal feed, and it was so celebrated that in 1847 it was named the “most interesting new ornamental plant of the year” by the Society of Agriculture and Horticulture at Utrecht in Holland.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/japanese-k ... er-4328310

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Postby Russell » Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:37 am

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The only way to fight it is to use its natural enemies.

In Japan there is Alphalara Itadori, a type of bug that specializes in knotweed, and it appears to be effective.

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Interestingly, it appears not to be so widespread in Japan, due to another insect, a kind of wasp that lays its eggs in the larvae of Alphalara Itadori, but still knotweed is not so prevalent in Japan, so there must be other factors.

One such factor is Gallerucida bifasciata, but it appears to be more non-specific in its feeding habits, so it is considered risky to release in the wild.
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Postby Salty » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:30 pm

Easy solution - just run that gif in reverse.... :roll:
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Postby matsuki » Wed Jul 29, 2015 4:38 pm

They just need to hit it with some fire....

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Postby Coligny » Wed Jul 29, 2015 5:46 pm

Russell wrote:Image

The only way to fight it is to use its natural enemies.

In Japan there is Alphalara Itadori, a type of bug that specializes in knotweed, and it appears to be effective.

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Interestingly, it appears not to be so widespread in Japan, due to another insect, a kind of wasp that lays its eggs in the larvae of Alphalara Itadori, but still knotweed is not so prevalent in Japan, so there must be other factors.

One such factor is Gallerucida bifasciata, but it appears to be more non-specific in its feeding habits, so it is considered risky to release in the wild.


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Postby Russell » Wed Jul 29, 2015 8:53 pm

Coligny wrote:Brilliant... when wintertime rolls around, the gorillas simply freeze to death...

That doesn't mean you got rid of it...

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