Light Aircraft Crash In Residential Chofu

[Coligny]

It appears the most likely reason the plane crashed in Chofu was two many passengers weighing over 65 kilos and a full tank of gas

They should put scales in the seats, so the plane beeps like an elevator when the portly person sits down.

Just thinking, but 65 kg is not a lot.

Does this plane also fly in the US?

How do they deal with the weight limit there? Loading less passengers?

Don't worry, it is not that stupidely generic especially for small birds.
Calculation sheet don't use the # of passengers but their weight. A pilot worth his salt will be able to eyeball the weight and decide who goes where if needed... Issue arise when flying with divas who force takeoff overloaded or unbalanced.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=101199

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[Takechanpoo]

hey, still one disabled scum crying something

[Coligny]

hey, still one disabled scum crying something

So, you finally got news from your mom at the hospice ?

[Coligny]

It appears the most likely reason the plane crashed in Chofu was two many passengers weighing over 65 kilos and a full tank of gas

They should put scales in the seats, so the plane beeps like an elevator when the portly person sits down.

Just thinking, but 65 kg is not a lot.

Does this plane also fly in the US?

How do they deal with the weight limit there? Loading less passengers?

A good primer on light aircraft math:

http://www.pilotfriend.com/training/fli ... wt_bal.htm

[Salty]

When I was a frequent business flier to the US, my airline weighed passengers and their carry-on at the gate. I had a backpack in the gate waiting area that weighed a ton (eight bottles of fine wine, plus other items....), but left it on the floor when it was my time to be weighed. Big aircraft, so no issue, but for a light craft it might have been.

This aircraft made it into the air - so was marginally overweight. A small error in guesswork, or passengers who lie about their weight, or who packed too much, may have made the difference.

[Coligny]

Issue night have been the rate of climb.
The usual fight between the rate needed to clear obstacle and the speed needed to stay in the air.
When overweight... You can't have both...

[Coligny]

When I was a frequent business flier to the US, my airline weighed passengers and their carry-on at the gate. I had a backpack in the gate waiting area that weighed a ton (eight bottles of fine wine, plus other items....), but left it on the floor when it was my time to be weighed. Big aircraft, so no issue, but for a light craft it might have been.

This aircraft made it into the air - so was marginally overweight. A small error in guesswork, or passengers who lie about their weight, or who packed too much, may have made the difference.

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Good times, good times...

[Salty]

DC3s.....

[kurogane]

Anyhoo, From Over Laden to..........

Bin Laden family on Blackbushe Airport crash plane

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-33745057


In a followup, remaining family members have reported they plan to change their surname to Bin Fallen to commemorate the close ties between their family and airplane disasters, but furiously deny reports they toyed with the idea of changing it to Bin Dyin. They also reject any suggestions they plan to produce a commemorative non-prophet cartoon.

[Coligny]

DC3s.....

Yer not funny... They are still flying...

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http://www.buffaloairways.com/index.php ... uglas-dc-3

[Salty]

DC3s.....

Yer not funny... They are still flying...

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http://www.buffaloairways.com/index.php ... uglas-dc-3

Well... so am I, sort of....

[Yokohammer]

Yer not funny... They are still flying...

One of the first aircraft I ever flew in (as a very young passenger, of course).

That and the Fokker Friendship:

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And the Vickers Viscount:

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And of course the odd DC-6 or two.

It actually felt like flying back in thems days ... and it was a treat rather than an ordeal.

[Coligny]

My first flight:

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(I think it was this bird)

From/to Lognes LFPL:

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They let me drive until this exact same point. After the third time I stated that I didn't have my marks... Could not see any vasi/papi and the ILS was not even an option...

The park & fly habit make today's circus especially unbearable...
No matter how some clowns wants you to consider normal to bow and beg for the priviledge of the travel... That you paid for...

[Wage Slave]

Flown on many Fokker Friendships over the years - great aircraft and highly tolerant of iffy maintenance, rough landing strips and the kind of odd pilots you used to find knocking around the third world. But the strongest memories were of this truly monumental aircraft. At the time it looked like a cavern in that cabin.

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Also this, which was a really good plane IMO:

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and this, which was less good. Sort of the Transit van of the sky:

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[Yokohammer]

707, Tristar, and DC-10?

Getting pretty newfangled there Wage Slave!

[Takechanpoo]

survey report of the accident
http://jtsb.mlit.go.jp/jtsb/aircraft/detail.php?id=2131
http://www.mlit.go.jp/jtsb/aircraft/p-p ... -4-1-p.pdf
http://www.mlit.go.jp/jtsb/aircraft/rep ... JA4060.pdf

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