Post your 'You Tube' videos of interest.

[matsuki]

I think I don't like campig but sometimes its tempting...

hikikomori camping....so low

If I have to bring me bitch I'm not even going to try.

Bring your friends, a dog (or cats?) and enjoy the decompression.

[wagyl]

I think I don't like campig but sometimes its tempting...

hikikomori camping....so low

If I have to bring me bitch I'm not even going to try.

Bring your friends,

I spot a flaw in your plan.

[matsuki]

I think I don't like campig but sometimes its tempting...

hikikomori camping....so low

If I have to bring me bitch I'm not even going to try.

Bring your friends,

I spot a flaw in your plan.

nonsense!

[matsuki]

[Coligny]

Good times... good times...

[matsuki]

Good times... good times...

Whatever happed to that dude? With that kind of resume, he'd soooo fit in with a PR firm!

[Coligny]

Muhammad Saeed al-Sahhaf, also known as Baghdad Bob or Comical Ali, after surrendering to the US Army and being promptly released. Because as far as intel sources goes, this guy was of the chart in the wrong direction. He moved to the United Arab Emirate with his family. (Seriously, when do you guys start bombing them ? They make Iran, Syria and DPRK look like the 3 stooges...)
His health seems to have badly deteriorated since 2014.

[Grumpy Gramps]

Birdie

[Coligny]

Lucky it was not a black bird...

not talking aboot this one:

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[Coligny]

[Samurai_Jerk]

[Wage Slave]

Listen. He touched me once before. He was trying to do it again and I'm not his punchbag.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Listen. He touched me once before. He was trying to do it again and I'm not his punchbag.

That's called self-defense in 'Merka. He probably would have been justified in shooting him for making such aggressive moves.

[Coligny]

Listen. He touched me once before. He was trying to do it again and I'm not his punchbag.

That's called self-defense in 'Merka. He probably would have been justified in shooting him for making such aggressive moves.

Like strip clubs... the "no hands" rule...

/I was told...

[matsuki]

Listen. He touched me once before. He was trying to do it again and I'm not his punchbag.

That's called self-defense in 'Merka. He probably would have been justified in shooting him for making such aggressive moves.

Like strip clubs... the "no hands" rule...

/I was told...

You don't even need to touch someone..

In common law, assault is the act of creating apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact with a person. An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm.

[Wage Slave]

Listen. He touched me once before. He was trying to do it again and I'm not his punchbag.

That's called self-defense in 'Merka. He probably would have been justified in shooting him for making such aggressive moves.

Like strip clubs... the "no hands" rule...

/I was told...

You don't even need to touch someone..

In common law, assault is the act of creating apprehension of an imminent harmful or offensive contact with a person. An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm.

Yes. Although the law is rarely applied that strictly. Anyway, if you are going to use self defence or provocation as a defence the force used must be reasonable and proportionate to the original threat. That wasn't by any stretch. America seems to have left that principle by the wayside though in other cases especially if the police are involved.

By the by. The fact no-one made any attempt to help him - make sure he was breathing, put him in the recovery position, attempt CPR if necessary - was ignorant and shameful.

[kurogane]

I fully agree on the recent escalation of hysterical police responses, but how was that not a reasonable response? The window licker was advancing towards him at pace with arms up. You're secretly working for the whiney emospastic lobby, Rn't U!????? Emospastics are becoming a serious nuisance in public these days, and that's just in Vancouver, never mind where they might be armed. While the real problem is the gutting of the mental health services they so obviously need there is a need for appropriate response in situations like this. We simply can't have these trogs defining the terms of public discourse and behaviour. If he had followed up with a shot to the head he could have called it a punch line. The only part of that that I thought a bit off was the audience member saying out loud how funny it was; he probably thinks Jackass stunts are clever.

[Coligny]

By the by. The fact no-one made any attempt to help him - make sure he was breathing, put him in the recovery position, attempt CPR if necessary - was ignorant and shameful.

Darwin strongly disagrees...

[kurogane]

Listen. He touched me once before. He was trying to do it again and I'm not his punchbag.

Just for shiites and googles, what do you think an appropriate response to the second charge of the emospazz would have been (instead of the Kwai Chang Caine response)?

It would be nice to get a longer video showing the lead up to the altercation; betcha it won't make Angwy Waymond wook any bettah (Sometime Waymond get vewy angwy!!!!!!!!!!). Performing comedians aren't responsible for the mental and emotional incontinences of audience members: if you don't like the show, leave.

[Samurai_Jerk]

Anyway, if you are going to use self defence or provocation as a defence the force used must be reasonable and proportionate to the original threat. That wasn't by any stretch.

Most Americans wold disagree and probably so would a lot law enforcement agencies and courts in the US.

Listen. He touched me once before. He was trying to do it again and I'm not his punchbag.

Just for shiites and googles, what do you think an appropriate response to the second charge of the emospazz would have been (instead of the Kwai Chang Caine response)?

It would be nice to get a longer video showing the lead up to the altercation; betcha it won't make Angwy Waymond wook any bettah (Sometime Waymond get vewy angwy!!!!!!!!!!). Performing comedians aren't responsible for the mental and emotional incontinences of audience members: if you don't like the show, leave.

I'd also like to know what an appropriate response would be. You might say it was a little heavy handed but if a dude is charging at you what are you supposed to do? I probably would have just slapped the shit out of him like the little bitch he is but I definitely don't like the Japanese or British stance on self defense which is basically you don't have a right to defend yourself. The staff at that place should have stepped in before things went that far though.

According to Brian Redban on the "Joe Rogan Experience" podcast the guy who got kicked is a local comedian who never made it and has a habit of heckling and harassing other comedians. That could be bullshit but Bedban is a comedian himself so I trust his intel a little more that your average dude throwing rumors around.

[Wage Slave]

What is it about the word proportionate that is so difficult to understand? And how is it difficult to grasp that self defense is not the same as punishment or retribution. And surely you can see that allowing people to deploy lethal force at the slightest provocation results in a murder rate more appropriate to a third world shithole than a developed country. Say what you like about the Japanese or UK approach but our murder rates are way way below the US's. As is every other developed country's.

[Samurai_Jerk]

What is it about the word proportionate that is so difficult to understand? And how is it difficult to grasp that self defense is not the same as punishment or retribution. And surely you can see that allowing people to deploy lethal force at the slightest provocation results in a murder rate more appropriate to a third world shithole than a developed country. Say what you like about the Japanese or UK approach but our murder rates are way way below the US's. As is every other developed country's.

I agree it was probably overkill so answer the question: What would have been an appropriate response?

EDIT: BTW, is "punch bag" British English?

[kurogane]

According to Brian Redban on the "Joe Rogan Experience" podcast the guy who got kicked is a local comedian who never made it and has a habit of heckling and harassing other comedians. .

On second viewing I wondered about that: the performer knows him by name as did others calling out to him. And he was wearing a tinfoil hat over his visor, and wearing a visor says a fair bit about a person unless it's a golf or tennis court. Nice point about the staff's inaction. There's a Stand Up night at my local bar and every now and then a heckler gets Pwned and goes aggressive. And when they do they get a pretty good beating. As they should. The comedian did nothing to provoke a physical attack and not being more adult about it isn't a crime or even much of a sin. If anything not following it up showed proper restraint.

Wage Slave,
Moving, running or doing something to get out of the way is the more adult response, but in that situation it seemed appropriate. Plus the guy that got kicked was probably playing it up for sympathy. He is not a victim. That was a pretty good Kung Fu move but it didn't look all that hard a kick. Anyways, my argument is that we all have an absolute duty to not get violent, but once somebody crosses that line without any cause or provocation they no longer enjoy any moral protection at all; the law isn't there to protect people that break it, but the legalities I will leave to those who know or care. BTW, no way that would have been deemed inappropriate in a Canadian court unless the judge was a simp. He attacked and he paid for his actions.

[Wage Slave]

What is it about the word proportionate that is so difficult to understand? And how is it difficult to grasp that self defense is not the same as punishment or retribution. And surely you can see that allowing people to deploy lethal force at the slightest provocation results in a murder rate more appropriate to a third world shithole than a developed country. Say what you like about the Japanese or UK approach but our murder rates are way way below the US's. As is every other developed country's.

I agree it was probably overkill so answer the question: What would have been an appropriate response?

EDIT: BTW, is "punch bag" British English?

I don't know. It might be - Is it not used in American English?

As for what would have been an appropriate response there are any number of things he could have done to keep himself safe especially considering the his so protagonist was far older, less well built, likely intoxicated and judging by the technique of that kick the comedian also had martial arts training. A simple sidestep would have dealt with that threat. The idiot should then have been ejected from the club. Where were the management in all this?

BTW - That comedian was so bad he could have have been a character in Little Britain. Or is that his act?

[kurogane]

A simple sidestep would have dealt with that threat. The idiot should then have been ejected from the club. Where were the management in all this?

This is all well put, but it does suggest the performer should have done that for legal reasons rather than simply that he could have done that if he wanted to take the high road. I cannot see how he could possibly be considered guilty of anything as far as his chosen response goes. He was attacked and he responded, and then stopped.

[Samurai_Jerk]

What is it about the word proportionate that is so difficult to understand? And how is it difficult to grasp that self defense is not the same as punishment or retribution. And surely you can see that allowing people to deploy lethal force at the slightest provocation results in a murder rate more appropriate to a third world shithole than a developed country. Say what you like about the Japanese or UK approach but our murder rates are way way below the US's. As is every other developed country's.

I agree it was probably overkill so answer the question: What would have been an appropriate response?

EDIT: BTW, is "punch bag" British English?

I don't know. It might be - Is it not used in American English?

As for what would have been an appropriate response there are any number of things he could have done to keep himself safe especially considering the his so protagonist was far older, less well built, likely intoxicated and judging by the technique of that kick the comedian also had martial arts training. A simple sidestep would have dealt with that threat. The idiot should then have been ejected from the club. Where were the management in all this?

BTW - That comedian was so bad he could have have been a character in Little Britain. Or is that his act?

Punching bag.

Given the fact it looks like a restaurant and there are only a few people watching it was probably an open mic night. Everyone has to start somewhere and most comedians start out sucking. Even great comedians suck when they're developing new material in the clubs. What most of us see is the finished product.

And old guys can still kick your ass

[Wage Slave]

A simple sidestep would have dealt with that threat. The idiot should then have been ejected from the club. Where were the management in all this?

This is all well put, but it does suggest the performer should have done that for legal reasons rather than simply that he could have done that if he wanted to take the high road. I cannot see how he could possibly be considered guilty of anything as far as his chosen response goes. He was attacked and he responded, and then stopped.

Proportionality - as simple as that. And it's important in governing the affairs of men. Especially thickos.

[kurogane]

I get that, and agree in spirit in reasonable circumstances but it does lead down that slippery slope of sympathising with the perpetrators by blaming the reasonable enough responses of normal people. The guy that got kicked was the one that escalated the confrontation, and there is far too much Oprahfied Cat Lady sympathy for his ilk. I found that to be true in Kyoto as well as in Scotland and here at home. I normally walk or even run away but people like that need to be sectioned not spoiled. There is nothing in that video to suggest he was not the architect of his own pain, but also I doubt I would want to spend any time with the comedian either (comedians are rarely interesting or even nice people offstage IME)

[Coligny]

A simple sidestep would have dealt with that threat. The idiot should then have been ejected from the club. Where were the management in all this?

This is all well put, but it does suggest the performer should have done that for legal reasons rather than simply that he could have done that if he wanted to take the high road. I cannot see how he could possibly be considered guilty of anything as far as his chosen response goes. He was attacked and he responded, and then stopped.

Proportionality - as simple as that. And it's important in governing the affairs of men. Especially thickos.

That's a really cute concept. Maybe works wonderfully well in 17th century duels and cape and swords movies, but...
It's totally in opposition to any combat rule. If you are engaging in a fair fight, you planned poorly (*)
Threats are to be neutralized swiftly and efficiently. Don't want to have your skull crushed, don't start shit. Don't ask me to evaluate your skills or level of armament. You don't break the fight, you are expandable...


(*) works both ways. I"'m not advocating for any 'stand your ground' doctrine. Just that once confrontation can't be avoided anymore and fight is started. Better avoid doing it half harted...

[Samurai_Jerk]

Proportionality - as simple as that.

That's not really a simple concept in legal terms. When I was assaulted here I was alone and a guy on the street with several friend started yelling at me for no reason, he kept grabbing me when I tried to get away, and then he pushed me and ripped my shirt when I got verbally aggressive. So I elbowed him in the face which dropped him instantly. In the end the cops let me off because he finally admitted he started it and said he didn't want to press charges. If he had though I probably would have been in trouble because he had physical damaged to his face and I had a ripped shirt. In the eyes of the law in Japan my response was not proportional. I even spoke with a lawyer friend after that and she told me that I probably would have lost in court and that all I had the right to do was push him back and rip his shirt. In Japan if you escalate the violence you're in the wrong. That's how the oyaji gari scams work (Worked? Is that still a thing?). That is ridiculous. Sometimes you have to escalate the violence to neutralize a threat.