Japanese traffic signals and other driving fun

[wuchan]

i said "average", didnt i?
the stereotype that mongoloid people cant drive properly was made by damn chinese the wild animals, i think.

Mortality-rates-deaths-from-road-traffic-accidents.png

This again....
http://www.fuckedgaijin.com/forums/download/file.php?id=12966

Japan only counts traffic deaths within 24 hours where the U.S.A. operates on a 30 day lag.

In simple speak: traffic death only counts as a traffic death if the person dies in 24 hours. In the USA a traffic death counts if a person dies within 30 days.


Statistics can make anything look old or bad. Japan excels at making things look better than reality.

[Wage Slave]

i said "average", didnt i?
the stereotype that mongoloid people cant drive properly was made by damn chinese the wild animals, i think.

Mortality-rates-deaths-from-road-traffic-accidents.png

This again....


Japan only counts traffic deaths within 24 hours where the U.S.A. operates on a 30 day lag.




magically the chart disappeared.

On a half valid comparison, ie based on vehicle km driven, the US does better than Japan even with that anomaly.

[wuchan]

i said "average", didnt i?
the stereotype that mongoloid people cant drive properly was made by damn chinese the wild animals, i think.

Mortality-rates-deaths-from-road-traffic-accidents.png

This again....


Japan only counts traffic deaths within 24 hours where the U.S.A. operates on a 30 day lag.




magically the chart disappeared.

On a half valid comparison, ie based on vehicle km driven, the US does better than Japan even with that anomaly.

sorry, edited...

[matsuki]

On a sad note, this chicka I hadn't talked to much the past year randomly hit me up. Went out for drinks and turns out a few months ago, her grandmother was driving her sister shopping somewhere....and plowed straight into a wall. The 20yo sister didn't survive, the grandmother did...and although she's "with it" mentally...gave the Japanese traditional excuse of "覚えはない"

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[dimwit]

In general, people suffering from head trauma caused by accidents often do not remember events imediately prior to the trauma, granny could well be telling the truth.

[Samurai_Jerk]

In general, people suffering from head trauma caused by accidents often do not remember events imediately prior to the trauma, granny could well be telling the truth.

No I'm sure choko is right about her uniquely Japanese excuse.

[Coligny]

In general, people suffering from head trauma caused by accidents often do not remember events imediately prior to the trauma, granny could well be telling the truth.

No I'm sure choko is right about her uniquely Japanese excuse.

Dood, Pocahontas is here undercover, don't use his real name...

[Samurai_Jerk]

In general, people suffering from head trauma caused by accidents often do not remember events imediately prior to the trauma, granny could well be telling the truth.

No I'm sure choko is right about her uniquely Japanese excuse.

Dood, Pocahontas is here undercover, don't use his real name...

Oops. Forgot.

[matsuki]

In general, people suffering from head trauma caused by accidents often do not remember events imediately prior to the trauma, granny could well be telling the truth.

Didn't sound like granny had much physical trauma, the side the sister was on took most of the blow

[Samurai_Jerk]

Just getting whipped around from a hard impact can hurt your brain. Besides it's not unusual for people's memory of traumatic events to be fuzzy.

[matsuki]

Just getting whipped around from a hard impact can hurt your brain. Besides it's not unusual for people's memory of traumatic events to be fuzzy.

Fair enough....but the main point of the story is she drove straight into a fucking wall. (with fatal consequences)

[Samurai_Jerk]

Just getting whipped around from a hard impact can hurt your brain. Besides it's not unusual for people's memory of traumatic events to be fuzzy.

Fair enough....but the main point of the story is she drove straight into a fucking wall. (with fatal consequences)

How's the family feel about her now?

[matsuki]

Just getting whipped around from a hard impact can hurt your brain. Besides it's not unusual for people's memory of traumatic events to be fuzzy.

Fair enough....but the main point of the story is she drove straight into a fucking wall. (with fatal consequences)

How's the family feel about her now?

Not really sure, they didn't cut her out of their lives or anything but you know how often that shit gets pent up and not discussed here....I doubt anyone wants to let her drive again though. I should ask if she gave up her license...

[wagyl]

I should ask if she gave up her license...

You don't spend much time around old folk, in any country, do you.

Granny Mistook the Accelerator for the Brake and Hit a Wall* Again, a modern day haiku.

Give up my licence?
They take it away from me.
Kicking and screaming.

Seen it many times.

* Bedroom of the neighbour's house, actually. They were very nice about it, considering.

[Takechanpoo]

a car driven by 93 year old baba killed a high school boy in fukuoka
http://www.sankei.com/west/news/151103/ ... 71-n1.html

[Russell]

a car driven by 93 year old baba killed a high school boy in fukuoka
http://www.sankei.com/west/news/151103/ ... 71-n1.html

Was she on a killing spree, or did she just forget her glasses?!?

[matsuki]

I should ask if she gave up her license...

You don't spend much time around old folk, in any country, do you.

Yeah...but after she killed her granddaughter, she might not have any defiance left in her. (and if she doesn't give it up, for once, I'd agree with a the "criminal" aspect of the law if she hits and kills someone else)

Granny Mistook the Accelerator for the Brake and Hit a Wall* Again, a modern day haiku.

Give up my licence?
They take it away from me.
Kicking and screaming.

Seen it many times.

* Bedroom of the neighbour's house, actually. They were very nice about it, considering.

The "unique Japan" aspect to all this is the massive horde of them that are hitting that poem friendly time in their lives.

[inflames]

A lot of old people don't want to give up their licenses for obvious reasons, and that isn't just a Japan thing.

Not driving, but I had some salaryman run and knock me over today and spilled my Starbucks (toffee nut latte) - dude just kept on running to cross a light in his suit. Obahan OL stopped and helped me though.

[Takechanpoo]

that event increased a little bit over again your hostility gage toward j-men.

[wagyl]

knock me over today and spilled my Starbucks (toffee nut latte)

I think a random salaryman did you a favour.

[Grumpy Gramps]

+1 for the favour

Old people kill people, but youngsters kill people too. The only difference is that once they're old, it's mentioned everywhere. I'd say; let them drive, they'll do fine.

[matsuki]

A lot of old people don't want to give up their licenses for obvious reasons, and that isn't just a Japan thing.

Right....but the qty of them, with the qty of pedestrians, and the shitty small curved roads and sign overload in Tokyo...potential for chaos is higher.

Not driving, but I had some salaryman run and knock me over today and spilled my Starbucks (toffee nut latte) - dude just kept on running to cross a light in his suit. Obahan OL stopped and helped me though.

Lucky it wasn't me, the last time that shit happened to me, I dumped the rest of the drink onto the offender. (same type of situation but I had time to grab the dipshit by the collar)

On a silver lining note, granny apparently had her license taken away. Relatives didn't press charges, she didn't go to jail over it...but one less baba kamikaze on the roads.

[Samurai_Jerk]

+1 for the favour

Old people kill people, but youngsters kill people too. The only difference is that once they're old, it's mentioned everywhere. I'd say; let them drive, they'll do fine.

Don't young males cause the most accidents?

[Yokohammer]

+1 for the favour

Old people kill people, but youngsters kill people too. The only difference is that once they're old, it's mentioned everywhere. I'd say; let them drive, they'll do fine.

Don't young males cause the most accidents?

I believe you are right.

Something to do with testosterone fuelled belief in personal immortality. Otherwise known as stupid risk taking.*

* Been there, done that.

[Coligny]

I heard that parking brake 180° and reverse bootlegger makes your gurlfriends brassiere fall off...

[matsuki]

+1 for the favour

Old people kill people, but youngsters kill people too. The only difference is that once they're old, it's mentioned everywhere. I'd say; let them drive, they'll do fine.

Don't young males cause the most accidents?

I believe you are right.

Something to do with testosterone fuelled belief in personal immortality. Otherwise known as stupid risk taking.*

* Been there, done that.

Who causes the most fatalities?

[Yokohammer]

+1 for the favour

Old people kill people, but youngsters kill people too. The only difference is that once they're old, it's mentioned everywhere. I'd say; let them drive, they'll do fine.

Don't young males cause the most accidents?

I believe you are right.

Something to do with testosterone fuelled belief in personal immortality. Otherwise known as stupid risk taking.*

* Been there, done that.

Who causes the most fatalities?

You make a guy work for his FG card, dontcha?

OK, here's some actual data for Japan (from 2010)

This first graph (blue bars) shows the age groups of the perpetrators in auto accidents that result in death. Vertical axis is number of traffic deaths caused. The 35~39 year old group causes the most deaths, but the younger groups are next in line (notably 20~24).

nenreibetu.jpg

The second graph (grey bars) shows the age groups of the victims.

higaisya-age.jpg

[Wage Slave]

Interesting. I suppose it should be per 100,000 kilometres driven per year or something otherwise the figures are merely a reflection of the fact that younger people drive far more than older people. There are many more younger drivers on the road at any given moment so they cause more accidents.

However, Insurance companies are fairly clear who poses a greater risk all other things being reasonably equal. Premiums for younger drivers are much higher than those for older drivers. As are premiums for men as opposed to women. I think the latter was declared unlawful in the UK a few years ago but that was the state overriding the statistical evidence.

It clearly isn't the case that all older drivers are more dangerous. In fact, the opposite is probably true. It's just that in some cases, physical and or mental infirmity override all other considerations and not enough is being done to identify that group and ensure they are not putting themselves and others in danger.

[Coligny]

However, Insurance companies are fairly clear who poses a greater risk all other things being reasonably equal. Premiums for younger drivers are much higher than those for older drivers. As are premiums for men as opposed to women. I think the latter was declared unlawful in the UK a few years ago but that was the state overriding the statistical evidence

Luckily, because if you go that way next up is jailing all black babies before they start stealing stuff...

[Wage Slave]

However, Insurance companies are fairly clear who poses a greater risk all other things being reasonably equal. Premiums for younger drivers are much higher than those for older drivers. As are premiums for men as opposed to women. I think the latter was declared unlawful in the UK a few years ago but that was the state overriding the statistical evidence

Luckily, because if you go that way next up is jailing all black babies before they start stealing stuff...

Overstating the case just a touch methinks but point taken. Sometimes equity is the overriding principle. Really I suppose the whole point of insurance as a social good is the pooling of risk. Allowing insurance companies to cherry pick and discriminate as much as they would like to on the basis of profiling inevitably dilutes that and if left unchecked will result in injustice.