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Left or right: which is right?

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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby matsuki » Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:08 pm

Coligny wrote:
matsuki wrote:I'm not saying it should be impossible to climb, just more inconvenient to. Even though they are taller than regular stairs as is, most people don't seem to notice/care about the difference.


You sir, are a moron...

An escalator can never break: it can only become stairs. You should never see an Escalator Temporarily Out Of Order sign, just Escalator Temporarily Stairs. Sorry for the convenience.

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Mitch Hedburg obviously never saw J-girls walking on 10in platform shoes eating shit on escalators...or any escalator death vid:

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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:09 am

Coligny wrote:
matsuki wrote:I'm not saying it should be impossible to climb, just more inconvenient to. Even though they are taller than regular stairs as is, most people don't seem to notice/care about the difference.


You sir, are a moron...


Seriously. Matsuki seems have suffered some kind of brain injury recently. Maybe the heat fried him.

Russell wrote:Yes, SJ, completely agree. Not walking on an escalator should be optional.

The risk of putting signs all over the place is that people will actually obey them (this is Japan after all), making the situation not necessarily better from a practical point of view. The reason why most people in the Nagoya area allegedly do not walk on escalators is those signs, rather than some form of inbred quality that keeps them from walking.


And like I've already pointed out in this thread, some of the stations in Tokyo, especially those on the Toei Line, are so deep underground that a lot of people really do need the escalators to make it to the top but standing takes fucking forever. Not to mention that if I get off the train and there's an escalator in front of me but the stairs are a couple of hundred meters up a crowded platform, I'm going to walk up the escalator because it's the quickest way out.
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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby Salty » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:58 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote: ... Not to mention that if I get off the train and there's an escalator in front of me but the stairs are a couple of hundred meters up a crowded platform, I'm going to walk up the escalator because it's the quickest way out.


That is why I suggested a strong laser zapper of anything that moves faster than the escalator. You will learn patience. :razz:
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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby Russell » Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:48 pm

Salty wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote: ... Not to mention that if I get off the train and there's an escalator in front of me but the stairs are a couple of hundred meters up a crowded platform, I'm going to walk up the escalator because it's the quickest way out.


That is why I suggested a strong laser zapper of anything that moves faster than the escalator. You will learn patience. :razz:

Well, in Tokyo they do have escalators with two different speeds.

Forgot which station that was.
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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby Coligny » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:16 pm

Russell wrote:
Salty wrote:
Samurai_Jerk wrote: ... Not to mention that if I get off the train and there's an escalator in front of me but the stairs are a couple of hundred meters up a crowded platform, I'm going to walk up the escalator because it's the quickest way out.


That is why I suggested a strong laser zapper of anything that moves faster than the escalator. You will learn patience. :razz:

Well, in Tokyo they do have escalators with two different speeds.

Forgot which station that was.


They tried that in gare Montparnasse (the rolling walkways only) they gad to disable them when the fatalities started to pileup...
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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby kurogane » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:24 pm

Grumpy Gramps wrote: Just like the moving walkways in airports, where no-one in their right mind would want you to stand and wait.


I like to walk really, really fast on those at least at the end because you get the turbo boost takeoff effect when you get off (like when Batman leaves the Bat Cave), but standing on an escalator seems perfectly reasonable. Kyoto and especially Kyoto Station is a mess because of all the tourists, so synchronising with Tokyo (or having Tokyo revert to normal) would be an alright idea, even though it's good cheap fun to stinkeye the passive agressive Kantotardic tourists pushing from behind while trying to walk on the wrong side. Even though there's signs everywhere.
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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby Russell » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:11 am

Now ignored in Britain too...

London Underground etiquette shredded for standing-only escalators at Holborn

Everybody knows the tube etiquette that escalator passengers must stand on the right, leaving the left-hand side free for walkers. But now Transport for London has started a commuter revolution by telling passengers to stand on both sides in a bold bid to ease congestion.

Rush-hour passengers at Holborn station found themselves greeted by staff members with megaphones, stationed at the bottom of one of the up escalators, ordering them to stand on both sides.

Station managers believe that instructing people not to walk up the escalators will have the result of smoothing the flow of people out of the station, which serves 56m passengers each year.

The move is part of a three-week trial at Holborn, one of the underground network’s busiest interchanges, to see if requiring passengers to remain stationary will reduce bottlenecks and speed up their departure through the restricted street exit area.

Ripping up the rules which have kept the underground system moving for more than a century produced a mixed response from passengers. “Commuters look mortified,” tweeted one observer. Another described the experiment as “insane”.

“London commuters could not be more out of their comfort zone,” wrote one participant as supervisors valiantly attempted to enforce the new rules on disbelieving passengers. Others welcomed a “fascinating experiment” designed to improve their journey speed.

Peter McNaught, Operations Director for the Central line, said: “Holborn station is one of the busiest on the Tube network, experiencing high demand in both the morning and evening peaks. As part of a three-week trial to reduce queues and keep people moving through the station, we are encouraging customers to stand on both sides of the ‘up’ escalators during busy periods.

“We believe this will increase the capacity of the escalators as more people will be able to board, preventing queuing at the bottom of the escalator.”

Whilst some hailed a “victory for the left”, it appears the experiment may not have widespread application. Holborn was chosen because of its lengthy, 23.4 metre long, escalator leading up to the ticket hall.

As a result most commuters avoid the steep climb and choose to stand on the right, causing congestion at the bottom, whilst the left-hand side of the escalator remains largely free of footfall. Forcing everyone to stand might inconvenience the minority of walkers but TfL believes it will nearly double the number of people using the escalators and get everyone to the surface quicker.

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By midday however the megaphoned supervisors were not present and Holborn commuters ignored signs asking them to stand on both sides, with the left side under-populated apart from the small number taking the healthy option to walk up.

In London, an estimated 25% of Tube users actually walk on the escalators. Research in 2011 by the University of Greenwich found that 75% of people at Paddington Tube station stood. The left-right “rule” was observed by nearly 90% of people.

The international picture is mixed. In Shanghai the figure for subway escalator walkers falls to 3%. Signs that encouraged people to walk on the left were removed at the recommendation of safety experts on the Toronto underground system. An escalator walking ban was considered for Tokyo's transport system but never enforced.

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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby yanpa » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:37 am

Russell wrote:Now ignored in Britain too...

London Underground etiquette shredded for standing-only escalators at Holborn

The international picture is mixed. In Shanghai the figure for subway escalator walkers falls to 3%.


Well that figures, it's that genetic tendency to block both sides of the escalator :twisted:
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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby matsuki » Thu Nov 26, 2015 2:47 pm

They could solve all this with a single person wide escalator or two. (would also stop idiots from trying to force their over-sized luggage and baby carts on them as well)
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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby Russell » Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:47 pm

matsuki wrote:They could solve all this with a single person wide escalator or two. (would also stop idiots from trying to force their over-sized luggage and baby carts on them as well)

Or making escalators as wide as normal stairs in stations. People standing in the middle would probably be too scared to walk.
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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby Samurai_Jerk » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:22 pm

How about if walkers gave standers the right of way so to speak? In other words don't walk if you can't do it without inconveniencing those who choose to stand.
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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby Coligny » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:43 pm

Samurai_Jerk wrote:How about if walkers gave standers the right of way so to speak? In other words don't walk if you can't do it without inconveniencing those who choose to stand.


Woa... calm down with your common sense and shit...
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Re: Left or right: which is right?

Postby matsuki » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:00 pm

Isn't that basically the unspoken rule now? (not that everyone follows it...or is aware of how wide their bags are as they smack everyone in the head on the way up)
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