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[Taro Toporific]

CHILD VICTIMS: Dads sex abusers in 40% of cases
The Asahi Shimbun / Dec 19
In 40 percent of child sex-abuse cases, the natural father of the victim was the perpetrator, a study shows....

[Robato]

Holy COW this is disgusting!!!! I almost cant believe it.....is the article right in that it is 40% of all cases or 40% of incest type cases? I mean maybe incest type cases are just 2% of sexual abuse??? Its just hard to believe someone would do this to their own child... I cant even imagine such a high percent of people would be doing this.

It makes me very angry.

[Caustic Saint]

Why is the figure that hard to believe? Who has more access to kids than their own parents? Add in the uncle and grandpa stats and you'll see that figure get even higher. Even in the US the bulk of all molestation cases are committed by family members or close friends of the family.

[Robato]

well I can see the uncle, babysitter, teacher or neighbor. All cases of this sorta stuff are from someone close. (e.g. michael jackson )

I just find it hard to believe someone would do that to their own child...whats more unbelievable is that its such a high statistic.

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

In the uk there was a similar study where they found that 85% of cases were in the family fathere brother uncles etc. but there was a very high % of women in the family being abusive.

The way the papers would have you belive it is every dirty old man on the street. I hate sensationalism.

[ramchop]

I just find it hard to believe someone would do that to their own child...whats more unbelievable is that its such a high statistic.

Anyone that would do that to a child is a sick freak. Sick freaks are just as able to have children as normal people.
Sick freak + daily acces to children = abused child.

It's a sadly believeable stat. The reason you hear more about the Michael Jackson/priest abuse thing is due to the outraged parents screaming loudly. Who's going to want a public execution in the incest cases? The mother will be outraged and want the bastard sliced and diced, but not publicly... there's always the question "where was the mother when all this was going on"?

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

I remember the sahra pain case in the uk. THe mother and father were complete dropouts. The mother spoke like was has been on the tabaki since the age of 9. And the father looked like abit of a wide boy.

The exact kind of parents that leave their children roam the streets until 11pm . I remember one such mother near where I lived. her daughter got cut which looked to be a knife wound. You could hear the mother screaming abuse at everybody for miles. But as it happened the girl just fell over a wall. THe same woman used to scream at her husband so loud you could hear it out side the house.

[Captain Japan]

Maybe this story ain't related (or maybe it really is) but...my sister came to visit me about 3 years ago. I brought her around to the office one morning to see where I worked. Then she left to go meet up with someone. At lunch that day one of the oyaji salarymen started talking about how beautiful my sister is. Then, while giggling, he reminded me (in English) not to "do insect" with her. I was tempted to correct his English but figured it was pretty perfect as is.

[jez]

I just find it hard to believe someone would do that to their own child....

One word:Oedipus.

[Caustic Saint]

I just find it hard to believe someone would do that to their own child....

One word:Oedipus.

Oedipus was in love with his mother and initiated the relationship. Are you implying that molested kids are "asking for it?"

[jez]

I just find it hard to believe someone would do that to their own child....

One word:Oedipus.

Oedipus was in love with his mother and initiated the relationship. Are you implying that molested kids are "asking for it?"

Are you trying to bait me?
I was talking about the Oedipus Complexe, and (sexual) attraction between parents and children. Of course children are not necessarily asking for it.
I once read, however, of the case of a Japanese mother giving blow-jobs to her son, so he would be able to concentrate better on his studies...(in this particular case, he asked for it )

[cstaylor]

I just find it hard to believe someone would do that to their own child....

One word:Oedipus.

Oedipus was in love with his mother and initiated the relationship. Are you implying that molested kids are "asking for it?"

Are you trying to bait me?
I was talking about the Oedipus Complexe, and (sexual) attraction between parents and children. Of course children are not necessarily asking for it.
I once read, however, of the case of a Japanese mother giving blow-jobs to her son, so he would be able to concentrate better on his studies...(in this particular case, he asked for it )

IIRC, Oedipus was unaware of his maternal relationship, so he really only had a thing for older women.

[Caustic Saint]

I was talking about the Oedipus Complexe, and (sexual) attraction between parents and children. Of course children are not necessarily asking for it.
I once read, however, of the case of a Japanese mother giving blow-jobs to her son, so he would be able to concentrate better on his studies...(in this particular case, he asked for it )

I was using this definition of "Oedipus Complex" - Freudian term, drawn from the myth of Oedipus, designating attraction on the part of the child toward the parent of the opposite sex and rivalry and hostility toward the parent of its own.

I've never heard it used to refer to attraction on the part of the parent to a child. Peraps there's another term for that?

[ramchop]

I've never heard it used to refer to attraction on the part of the parent to a child. Peraps there's another term for that?

The accepted technical term (as I've used above) is "Sick freak".

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

Caustic Saint>>
looking at that difinition:

designating attraction on the part of the child toward the parent of the opposite sex and rivalry and hostility toward the parent of its own.

THe parent of its own would mean the parent of its own sex meaning hatred between mother daughter / father son.

[Caustic Saint]

Caustic Saint>>
looking at that difinition:

designating attraction on the part of the child toward the parent of the opposite sex and rivalry and hostility toward the parent of its own.

THe parent of its own would mean the parent of its own sex meaning hatred between mother daughter / father son.

What is says (in the terms of a son with an O.C.) is attraction towards the mother and rivalry/hostility towards the father. It says nothing about the attitude of either parent towards the child with an O.C.

[jez]

I've never heard it used to refer to attraction on the part of the parent to a child. Peraps there's another term for that?

Oedipus was a myth. Myths are used to explain real life.
If children are capable of attraction towards their parents, why shouldn't it also be the case that parents are capable of attraction towards their children? And before someone screams "you sick freak" at me, I never condoned molesting children(it's so annoying having to justify one's self every time-like "I'm not racist, my friend is black". ). I'm just giving an opion as to where these things originate.

[ramchop]

(it's so annoying having to justify one's self every time-like "I'm not racist, my friend is black". )

Are you saying "I'm not a paedophile, none of my friends are children"?

[Caustic Saint]

I've never heard it used to refer to attraction on the part of the parent to a child. Peraps there's another term for that?

Oedipus was a myth. Myths are used to explain real life.
If children are capable of attraction towards their parents, why shouldn't it also be the case that parents are capable of attraction towards their children?

Obviously such things do happen, given the statistic behind this topic.

However, "Oedipus Complex" already has a definition, and "parental attraction to a child" isn't it. That's the point I was making.

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

THe prime definition for an Oedipus complex is that a boy has an atraction to the mother. As its oposit is an Electra complex

http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_complex


http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electra_complex

Ming is back

[cstaylor]

Ming? More like Wally the Wikipedia Wonder Boy.

[NeoNecroNomiCron]

Ming? More like Wally the Wikipedia Wonder Boy.

Dont make Fun of the Wiki,

It is better than encarta

It is free

It is fast

It is geek friendly (Score: 5, insightful)

You can edit the content if you know the topic better.

Its my friend.

It is practicaly online communism

It has lots of japanese articals and even is in japanese.

[cstaylor]

Dont make Fun of the Wiki

Who's making fun of Wiki?

[Robato]

THe prime definition for an Oedipus complex is that a boy has an atraction to the mother. As its oposit is an Electra complex

http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_complex


http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electra_complex

Ming is back

http://en2.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oedipus_complex
what????

Sigmund Freud used Sophocles' Greek tragedy Oedipus Rex to support his claim that every boy fantasizes about killing his father and having incestuous sex with his mother, and must repress that desire. The Oedipus conflict or Oedipus complex was described as a peanut

[American Oyaji]

Wasn't Oedipus a greek tragedy?

As far as incest goes...

There are a whole lot of Japanese women who grow their boys up to sleep with them.

[Robato]

There are a whole lot of Japanese women who grow their boys up to sleep with them.

where do you guys get this information??? There is a guy that I know that owns a bar here that says the same thing. Is it information that floats from gaijin to gaijin or a true factual source that states that all japanese women hunger for american penis and grow children up to give them blowjobs so that they do better on tests??

I don't mean this as a flame, I just want to have the source of these revolting stories.